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After 5 month, this is the second time my dealer have to do work on the PTU

 

At the beginning we found oil drip.

 

Dealer change PTU gasket (Transfer Case)

 

Few week after, same oil drip.

 

Dealer change the Entire PTU Unit.

 

I do have the towing package on this vehicule.

I'm pulling a boat of about 3100 lbs

 

Should we think about a stress due to the boat ?

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After 5 month, this is the second time my dealer have to do work on the PTU

 

At the beginning we found oil drip.

 

Dealer change PTU gasket (Transfer Case)

 

Few week after, same oil drip.

 

Dealer change the Entire PTU Unit.

 

I do have the towing package on this vehicule.

I'm pulling a boat of about 3100 lbs

 

Should we think about a stress due to the boat ?

 

 

I would have to assume that T-case stress would be increased by towing, but would this cause a leak?

 

 

I don't know about the Edge, but my '06 Pathfinder is rated to tow 6000lbs and I do tow 4500-5000 most weekends (deck boat). The service manual says to change the Transfer Case (as well as Transmission/front diff/rear diff) fluid at 30,000miles if towing, 60,000 if not towing. SO I assume there is increased stress/wear on that area under heavy load.

 

BUT what I don't understand is how this would cause a leak. Internal wear is one thing, but it shouldn't be blowing out the seal and making a leak.

 

I WOULD take the boat to a certified scale (loaded and ready for the water) and get it weighed though, this way if you do end up having any issues w/ the warrenty you can quickly make a case that you were under your 3500lbs towing limit (or if you are above, you can get a new tow vehicle before you do blow something up).

 

I took the boat to a truck stop and drove my truck/boat on the scale and got a weight (truck on front scale, boat trailer axles on the rear scale so I could get both weights). Then drove off and unhooked the boat, came back on and weighed just the truck. Then I could calculate tongue weight/truck weight/boat weight and know what I'm really pulling.

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Trust me it is not your boat. I have not towed anything wtih my edge and the transfer case is being replaced for the 3rd time in 5 weeks. My edge was smoking and smelled absolutely horrible. Getting the part in seems to also be an issue. Hope they gave you a good loaner.

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Trust me it is not your boat. I have not towed anything wtih my edge and the transfer case is being replaced for the 3rd time in 5 weeks. My edge was smoking and smelled absolutely horrible. Getting the part in seems to also be an issue. Hope they gave you a good loaner.

 

Did they replace the transfer case twice already with two failures? or did they do the gasket replacement twice with two failures?

I just had my PTU replaced last week.

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We dropped off my wife's 2007 Edge today. Have had the burning smell for some time. Realized after reading here that it is the PTU. They said they had to replace seals. I have read here that won't work, it needs to be entire unit. Any hope? Or am I just looking at bringing it back in a few weeks to have entire unit replaced?

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Currently own a 2007 Mazda CX-7. I have also had issues with oil leak which resulted in replacement of transfer case. Just recently had the transfer case replaced for the third time. I am ready to get rid of my CX-7 and was looking at the Edge. After seeing that it also is having issue with oil leak and transfer case issues, I'm not so sure now. I understand that the Edge and Mazda CX-7 share some of the same drive train.

 

 

Looks like an issue with the transfer case on AWD models: Mazda CX-7/Ford Edge

 

Starts out as oil leak:

 

History of my Problems On CX-7:

• 3750 miles: First sign of oil leak, dealer thought was oil filter cartridge, was actually this time the start of transfer case leak. Down time (1 day)

• 4175 miles: Still have oil leak problem, diagnosed and determined removal and replacement of transfer case. Down time (35 days)

• 5565 miles: Performance issues, shift problems, door seals. Down time (2 days)

• 6414 miles: Door seals. Down time (3 days)

• 8154 miles: Chrome peeling off engine cover emblem. No down time

• 9571 miles: LCD touch screen display not working. Replaced navigation system. Down time (5 days)

• 14281 miles: Oil leak again from same location as previous leaks. Dye put in to transfer case to locate leak. Drove for a few miles to have dye take effect. Down time (2 days)

• 14806 miles: Check for leak after installation of dye. Down time (4 days)

• 15485 miles: Still have oil leak from same location as previous leaks. May have to install new seals in transfer case was determined. Down time (1 day)

• 16235 miles: Removal of transfer case and all new oil seals installed. Down time (8 days)

• 19750 miles: Noise from transfer case. Dealer wanted new tires installed first due to road noise from prematurely worn tires. Could not purchase tires at this time due to holidays.

• 22757 miles: Transfer case noise extremely bad at this time. New tires have been purchased and installed. Dealer diagnosed and determined internal damage in transfer case due to bad oil seals. Removal and replacement is the current action being taken. Took to dealer on 1/28/08, completed and got back on 2/8/08. Down time (10 days)

 

Total Amount Of Down Time At Dealership: As of 2/8/08 (71 days)

 

Currently filing lemon law

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Here is some news about this problem.

 

Now my Edge is 1 year old.

20 000 KM.

 

They have replace:

5000 KM 1x PTU Gasket kit

5200 KM 1x Complete PTU

15000 KM 1x Passager PTU Seal

17000 KM 1x Passager PTU Seal

18000 KM 1x Passager PTU Seal

20000 KM 1x Another Complete PTU

 

Let see how long it will be OK.

Do not hesitate to complain to Ford Customer Service.

 

I'm very happy, this is only a 3 years lease.

 

Good luck guys.

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Have a 2007 MKX am now on my second PTU unit.

 

First repaired after 6000 miles with a new seal.

 

Brought it back 1 month later after smelling smoke again.

they said they couldn't see anything.

 

2 weeks later, had it back in again for a new PTU.

 

3 months later, started to leak again.

 

Just picked it up from the dealer again! This time they figured out that the axle had slight

scoring on it which ruined a bearing and seal. So New Axle and New PTU. We'll see what happens next.

 

Are the new 08's having the same problem?

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Have a 2007 MKX am now on my second PTU unit.

 

First repaired after 6000 miles with a new seal.

 

Brought it back 1 month later after smelling smoke again.

they said they couldn't see anything.

 

2 weeks later, had it back in again for a new PTU.

 

3 months later, started to leak again.

 

Just picked it up from the dealer again! This time they figured out that the axle had slight

scoring on it which ruined a bearing and seal. So New Axle and New PTU. We'll see what happens next.

 

Are the new 08's having the same problem?

 

Looks like my 08 Limited AWD is leaking now! I will have to take it to the dealer soon. My first problem with the Edge. Yep at the dealer now leak was PTU> mechanic tells me there is a new seal design along with better support bearing to take pressure off of the seal if I understood him correctly. Leak started around 25000 miles I guess. In a loaner Focus now :( all they had. Waiting on parts. Dropped off Monday and they tell me probably Monday before repair 7 days. Mechanic said about 2 hrs to repair.

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After 5 month, this is the second time my dealer have to do work on the PTU

 

At the beginning we found oil drip.

 

Dealer change PTU gasket (Transfer Case)

 

Few week after, same oil drip.

 

Dealer change the Entire PTU Unit.

 

I do have the towing package on this vehicule.

I'm pulling a boat of about 3100 lbs

 

Should we think about a stress due to the boat ?

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After 5 month, this is the second time my dealer have to do work on the PTU

 

At the beginning we found oil drip.

 

Dealer change PTU gasket (Transfer Case)

 

Few week after, same oil drip.

 

Dealer change the Entire PTU Unit.

 

I do have the towing package on this vehicule.

I'm pulling a boat of about 3100 lbs

 

Should we think about a stress due to the boat ?

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Good luck!! this is the 5th time and I have had this problem since 5000 miles. The last time I picked it up, didn't even get 20 miles and had to return it again. That is after replacing 2 seal kits, 1 brand new PTU, after that, another PTU, this last time was an update seal kit, (it was suppose to be an updated seal kit 3 times before; this must have been the new updated version) .....now, as we speak, they are ripping apart a brand new Ford Edge off the parking lot to put in mine....lol..no guarantees. this is the biggest piece of :censored: I have ever purchsed. We contacted a lawyer; however, if your vehicle is over 18000 miles, you may not be qualified under the so-called wonderful lemon law. Wish us luck on that!!

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Well, Add me to the list. I've had my 2008 since June 8000 miles and last week I noticed the odor of oil burning so I took it in. The service manager said he knew exactly what it was and would be fixed in 2 hours. I picked it up the next day and was told they replaced a seal and all is good. Yesterday when I left for work I noticed a puddle of pink fluid. Now it is back in the shop. Apparently they put the old version seal in by accident so now they are replacing it with the so called new and improved seal with a yellow deflector. He swears this will fix it. I hope...

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Well, Add me to the list. I've had my 2008 since June 8000 miles and last week I noticed the odor of oil burning so I took it in. The service manager said he knew exactly what it was and would be fixed in 2 hours. I picked it up the next day and was told they replaced a seal and all is good. Yesterday when I left for work I noticed a puddle of pink fluid. Now it is back in the shop. Apparently they put the old version seal in by accident so now they are replacing it with the so called new and improved seal with a yellow deflector. He swears this will fix it. I hope...

 

Does this problem effect all 2008 AWD edges? I just picked up an 08' limited last night....Do you think the late build 08's have updated ptu seals?

 

Thanks

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Does this problem effect all 2008 AWD edges? I just picked up an 08' limited last night....Do you think the late build 08's have updated ptu seals?

 

Thanks

 

 

There doesn't seem to be any known fix for the stinking PTU problem. If you read all the post on the subject, you will see that some people had the seals changed, others had the PTU replace, others like me had the seals and the drive shaft replaced.

 

I think Ford is still in diagnostics mode which means they don't completely understand the whole problem therefore can't provide for a fix. Seems to me they are guessing at the fix by trying a variety of things.

 

Ford needs to state what the problem is and secondly what the fix is.

 

You can read more about this problem at www.smokinedge.com

 

 

Gary Smith

SMOKIN EDGE

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Sorry if this sounds like I'm preaching to the choir, :bowdown: but each piece of information gets U closer to U'r solution. After 7000 miles, including 2K :shift: trip to Pacific Northwest, had right side seal replaced. Had not experienced burning smell, only oily coating on underside of car & leaks on garage floor. Within the week leak was back with an occasional burnt oil smell. I told dealer leaks where not red, were thick & sticky & smelled like gear oil not trans fluid. Was determined that gear oil was blowing out of PTU vent due to possible internal damage. PTU replaced at 8700 miles. Now at 10125 things are still dry. Do some homework. Place an oil leak pan, piece of Plexiglas, old Formica (Everyone's got a piece of Formica laying around waiting to be useful don't they? :headscratch:) or something else non-porous under car. Cardboard will show leaks but liquid soaks in & it's difficult to tell :doh: what it is. When U give service writer info about what's leaking, he'll think U'r a genius :shades: & he can give the tech an :idea: of where to start looking.

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Well, my 08 SELhas had the problem 3 times now. First time replaced seal 3 days after purchase 7500 miles (bought 6 months used), second time replaced PTU - they said it had a small crack in it, now having the leak again at 9500 miles. Sure would be nice if they could figure out a permanent repair...

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My 2007 edge has the same PTU issue... just adding my experience for completeness.

 

Replaced the seal about 2 months ago and it is leaking again so I have an appointment to replace it next week. The dealer here says all they can do is replace the seal again, but I find that after reading this threat it is going to be a futile gesture.

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Add me to the list --My 2007 edge has had two seal kits added to transfer case and one new transfer case installed--and it is now leaking again. There is 38,000 on the car and I am not a happy customer--Guess ford should have taken some bailout money and used it to fix the problem---I think I will trade it in on a GM product!!!!

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Add me to the list --My 2007 edge has had two seal kits added to transfer case and one new transfer case installed--and it is now leaking again. There is 38,000 on the car and I am not a happy customer--Guess ford should have taken some bailout money and used it to fix the problem---I think I will trade it in on a GM product!!!!

 

Get a new dealer - the repair procedure is complicated and some dealers aren't doing it correctly.

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