xbillmh Posted September 21, 2015 Report Share Posted September 21, 2015 Anyone have the pages from the shop manual for an oil change on the 2.7 liter eco-boost for the Edge and/or any related service bulletins? The owner's manual does not contain any instructions for an oil change. Thanks in advance for any help. On a separate note, I saw that an old version of the 2015 Ford Edge owner's manual contain a misprint for the 2.7 liter oil filter specification. The old version incorrectly lists the filter as a FL-500-S, when it is actually an FL-2062 cartridge style filter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
27Sport Posted September 21, 2015 Report Share Posted September 21, 2015 Loosen filter cartridge cover to allow oil to drain down. Remove oil drain plug (plastic type and can be done by hand). Replace drain plug. Replace filter cartride and use new supplied o-ring. Re-install cartridge cover. Fill engine with oil. Allow 15 minutes for oil level to read correctly as there is a chamber where the dipstick goes in to that has to fill. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingNut Posted September 22, 2015 Report Share Posted September 22, 2015 Loosen filter cartridge cover to allow oil to drain down. Remove oil drain plug (plastic type and can be done by hand). Replace drain plug. Replace filter cartride and use new supplied o-ring. Re-install cartridge cover. Fill engine with oil. Allow 15 minutes for oil level to read correctly as there is a chamber where the dipstick goes in to that has to fill. LOL pretty much this. I believe you can access the oil filter from the top. I am due for an oil change myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reloaded Posted September 22, 2015 Report Share Posted September 22, 2015 Pretty much what has been posted. Sorry, last time I was able to save the procedure as a pdf file. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vadimus Posted September 22, 2015 Report Share Posted September 22, 2015 (edited) Your PDF baking skills are brilliant anyway, thanks, Reloaded! Edited September 22, 2015 by Vadimus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWPerfA_ZN0W Posted September 22, 2015 Report Share Posted September 22, 2015 HTH. 2015 Ford Edge 2.7EB Oil & Filter Change x.PDF 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingNut Posted September 23, 2015 Report Share Posted September 23, 2015 Love how the drain plug can be taken out without a wrench. I was reading other forums that talk about the 2.7L oil change and said the oil comes out pretty fast while draining so be prepared. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xbillmh Posted September 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2015 Thanks for the great information, but I don't see the first steps of the process displayed in the attached images or the .pdf. Specifically, is there a shroud underneath the engine that needs to be removed to access the drain plug? I glanced underneath the car just for a second and didn't see an obvious place to access the plug. It looks like there may be more than one shroud piece underneath and I don't want to waste time taking off and removing covers unnecessarily. Thanks again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djtj Posted September 28, 2015 Report Share Posted September 28, 2015 any idea how much oil this thing takes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingNut Posted September 28, 2015 Report Share Posted September 28, 2015 any idea how much oil this thing takes? 6 quarts. It is listed in the Owner's Manual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingNut Posted September 28, 2015 Report Share Posted September 28, 2015 Thanks for the great information, but I don't see the first steps of the process displayed in the attached images or the .pdf. Specifically, is there a shroud underneath the engine that needs to be removed to access the drain plug? I glanced underneath the car just for a second and didn't see an obvious place to access the plug. It looks like there may be more than one shroud piece underneath and I don't want to waste time taking off and removing covers unnecessarily. Thanks again. If anything like my Mustang, the shroud will have some text on it saying to remove it to change oil. With arrows pointing to the screws/fasteners that will need to be loosened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted September 28, 2015 Report Share Posted September 28, 2015 There is no access door on my daughter's Focus or my Fusion or the wife's Escape - you have to remove the entire shroud. Major PITA, although a driver with a torx bit makes it easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted September 28, 2015 Report Share Posted September 28, 2015 any idea how much oil this thing takes? As Wingnut pointed out - NEVER guess at that type of thing - all the info you need on fluids, filters, capacities, spec, etc. is in the owner's manual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
15sportTT Posted September 28, 2015 Report Share Posted September 28, 2015 We have the twin turbo. After changing the oil should we let the engine idle for 15 minuets to let the oil get to the turbo so we do not over-heat the bearings? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted September 28, 2015 Report Share Posted September 28, 2015 Not necessary. Procedure is no different on ecoboost engines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWPerfA_ZN0W Posted September 28, 2015 Report Share Posted September 28, 2015 (edited) No need, but a minute or so wouldn't hurt IMHO. Also, do not shut the engine off right after coming off a hard run. Always allow a little time for coolant temps (and hence oil temps) to drop beforehand. So a couple of minutes of conservative driving before your intended shutoff point is a good idea. The exhaust manifolds are watercooled, but not the turbos, apparently. On the 3.5L EB, the turbos are both water- & oil-cooled. We have the twin turbo. After changing the oil should we let the engine idle for 15 minuets to let the oil get to the turbo so we do not over-heat the bearings? From the 3.5L EB's media kit: Reliable to the Extreme Turbochargers operate at high speed – up to 170,000 rpm – and under intense temperatures of up to 950 degrees Celsius (1,740 degrees Fahrenheit). Some previous-generation turbos were reputed to suffer from oil coking, in which they would bake their lubricating oil. Because oil coking can lead to premature turbocharger bearing failures, Ford’s advanced engine engineers specified the use of new, water-cooled turbochargers to combat this problem. “During normal turbo operation, the turbo receives most of its bearing cooling through oil,” said Keith Plagens, turbo system engineer. “After shut down, the problems with turbos in the past were you would get coking in the center bearing. Oil would collect in the bearings, the heat soaks in and the oil would start to coke on the side and foul the bearing. Water cooling – used in the EcoBoost engine – eliminates that worry.” The new EcoBoost V-6 uses two Honeywell GT15 water-cooled turbos. “The EcoBoost engine uses passive thermal siphoning for water cooling,” Plagens explains. “During normal engine operation, the engine’s water pump cycles coolant through the center bearing. After engine shutdown renders the water pump inactive, the coolant flow reverses. Coolant heats up and flows away from the turbocharger water jacket, pulling fresh, cool coolant in behind. This highly effective coolant process is completely silent to the driver, continuing to protect the turbocharger.” Edited September 28, 2015 by WWWPerfA_ZN0W 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POWERSTROKE Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 Ha-Ha.... Thermo-syphon cooling systems used to be common on farm tractors back in the 1930's and early '40's. Yes, it works, sorta, but is slow as heck! Still a good idea to let your turbocharged engine idle 2 to 5 minutes depending on how hard and how long you ran it. The small amount of coolant thermo-syphon would give a water cooled turbo bearing would extend it's service life. I always heard once you got things cooled off to 300-350 degrees F that coking wasn't a concern, even with dino oil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 You don't need to idle 2 to 5 minutes. Ceramics changed a lot with turbos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cds71 Posted October 1, 2015 Report Share Posted October 1, 2015 My brother learned the hard way...." after every oil change you do not perform yourself......double check the oil levels!!!!!" He has a wrx that he soon learned after a dealer oil change that they only put one quart in......two weeks later he started geting check oil and check engine lights...went to check the oil levels and the dip was dry...he then needed to put in over 4 quarts just to bring it up to level.....then about 2 weeks later his engine blew up.....he was lucky in that his wrx is still on warranty.....moral of this story is to always check your oil....I check mine after every second fill......and I change oil every 5000km. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWPerfA_ZN0W Posted October 1, 2015 Report Share Posted October 1, 2015 What oil are you using, cds71? Theoretically, even dino oil can be used as long as it meets the Ford spec (so as not to void warranty), but at (approx) halved the suggested intervals, so they say (!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted October 1, 2015 Report Share Posted October 1, 2015 I think the spec takes all that into account, so it shouldn't matter whether it's natural or synthetic or a blend as long as it meets the spec..... Now it may be that only a synthetic blend or full synthetic can meet the spec..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cds71 Posted October 1, 2015 Report Share Posted October 1, 2015 I have the dealer perform the oil changes(they use the synthetic blend 5w30).......and then I inspect the dipstick just before they close the hood and call it done. Ford recommends every 8000 km but I prefer to error on the side of caution and change it every 5000 km. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All Hat No Cattle Posted October 1, 2015 Report Share Posted October 1, 2015 If you really want to baby your turbo, you might check how much the dealer wants for a change with Motorcraft FULL Synthetic. They make it. https://www.fordparts.com/Products/Chemicals-MotorOils.aspx?fmccmp=myfordmag-site-MFPR0915MIN Motorcraft® SAE 5W-30 Full Synthetic Motor OilTop-quality motor oil for Ford and Lincoln passenger cars American Petroleum Institute (API)-certified for gasoline engine service ILSAC GF-5 and meets API SN/Energy Conserving Manufactured with high-viscosity index, premium-quality, synthetic base oils that provide good high-temperature and low-temperature performance Helps minimize engine deposits and wear Helps protect against high-temperature oxidation, low-temperature gelling, rust, corrosion and foaming Friction-reducing technology provides excellent wear protection and features energy-conserving characteristics, which offer significant improvement in fuel economy when compared to SAE 10W-30 motor oils Recommended by Ford Motor Company and meets warranty requirements Available in one-quart bottles or 55-gallon quantities 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted October 1, 2015 Report Share Posted October 1, 2015 The 2015s have IOLM and should not have a set interval like 8000 kms. Could be as high as 12000 kms or more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWPerfA_ZN0W Posted October 1, 2015 Report Share Posted October 1, 2015 Make sure they actually put in what they say at the dealer. Their oil comes from bulk bins, and it's best to use a reputable dealer in that regard. Enough stories on this forum alone of incorrect oil, incorrect weight oil, etc. You wouldn't think this would happen at a dealer, but ... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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