shockerpabla Posted January 13, 2016 Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 hey, i have the 2015 edge SEL, i wanted to change the low beam headlights. i heard the computer system will not allow HID/LED to work as it is programmed at 55w whereas HID/LED use much less. is this true? Am i forced to only use halogen bulbs only (55w)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shockerpabla Posted January 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 13, 2016 just to add..... my low beam lights are yellow-ish, i want to change it so it matches the fog lights. anyone know what color the fog is?? 4300k, 5k, 8k? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigma-2 Posted January 14, 2016 Report Share Posted January 14, 2016 just to add..... my low beam lights are yellow-ish, i want to change it so it matches the fog lights. anyone know what color the fog is?? 4300k, 5k, 8k? Don't know the answer but yellow light (or amber) is preferable over bluer light for fogs. (See better in circumstances of low visibility). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
remsleep Posted January 14, 2016 Report Share Posted January 14, 2016 www drivebrite.com Dan Smith Installed to my Edge SEL 2015 no HID as original Take 45 min Work great Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Halstead Posted January 14, 2016 Report Share Posted January 14, 2016 unless your Edge is in Europe/China, you don't have fog lights Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shockerpabla Posted January 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2016 thanks guys.... what i am really looking for is, if someone changed their low beam headlight with HID or LED. does it work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knickerbocker Posted January 14, 2016 Report Share Posted January 14, 2016 thanks guys.... what i am really looking for is, if someone changed their low beam headlight with HID or LED. does it work? For the low beam you really don't want LED as it's not bright enough for regular nighttime driving. Also, the standard projector housing is not fitted for HIDs. IMO, you'd be better off buying premium halogen bulbs that have a brighter, whiter light output to more closely match the LED lights on the front bumper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwf78155 Posted January 14, 2016 Report Share Posted January 14, 2016 www drivebrite.com Dan Smith Installed to my Edge SEL 2015 no HID as original Take 45 min Work great Contact Dan...he can hook you up ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shockerpabla Posted January 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2016 thank you very much Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msawdust Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 Looking at installing sylvania ultra silverstar headlights to improve low beam preformance. Is anyone using these and are you happy with their performance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicagoslick Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 For the low beam you really don't want LED as it's not bright enough for regular nighttime driving. Also, the standard projector housing is not fitted for HIDs. IMO, you'd be better off buying premium halogen bulbs that have a brighter, whiter light output to more closely match the LED lights on the front bumper. Not sure about how they would be on an Edge, but the LED lights on the F150 are great. I wrote about this in some other post, but those lights are nearly as good as the adaptive headlights I had on my BMW 7 series... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWPerfA_ZN0W Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 (edited) If the halogen housings are projector style, LEDs will work fine. Look up the vled.com product offerings. Pricey but quality. Edited January 15, 2016 by WWWPerfA_ZN0W Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Halstead Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 If the halogen housings are projector style, LEDs will work fine. Look up the vled.com product offerings. Pricey but quality. Thats not accurate. LEDs require their own LED projector to aim the light and since their are various different styles of LEDs on the market each is going to offer different results due to their own diode placement. Simply plugging an LED bulb into a projector doesnt make it work. Though you can waste your money if you want. Or go search "scott mcgregor" on fb and ask him how he liked his LED bulbs in his projector housings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWPerfA_ZN0W Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 Vled clearly states their highest lumen products are meant for projector housings. We should ask THEM if the intended market was halogen projectors or not, just to verify, since no mainstream nonluxury production vehicle offers LED oem replaceable bulb lighting that I am aware of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knickerbocker Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 I would be interested in quantifiable testing done on HID vs non-HIDS housings on the Edge. And also how different LED, DIY HID, or premium Halogens compare. We have enough members that we should be able to create some test methods that can be compared. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Halstead Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 The only recommended product from VLED in the headlight community is their switchback turn signals... Comparisons of halogen/HID/LED are all over HIDplanet and candlepower forums Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Halstead Posted January 15, 2016 Report Share Posted January 15, 2016 VLED vs halogen https://www.hidplanet.com/forums/forum/general-discussion/leds/61321-vled-lmz-headlight-led-bulb-output-picture Led/hid https://www.hidplanet.com/forums/forum/showoff/output-shots-beam-pattern-pictures/60181-xb35-55k-hid-vs-3000lm-cree-led-in-koito-projector-h7-halogen-projector Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWPerfA_ZN0W Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 The VLED was tested in a Halogen REFLECTOR, and it is certainly not designed for reflectors. I wouldn't put them in the '07 Edge housing for example, maybe in an aftermarket projector housing. They do have a (now discontinued) product for reflector housings that has a tube around the central shaft to disperse light in a similar manner as halogens (no idea what reviews are out there for those), that should work better. If I were in a position to try them out, I would. But yeah, I did like the Philips H11 product example that the retrofitter talked about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Halstead Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 I noticed the halogen reflectoe part after I post it. The led in the tube is horrible. A gimmick just like the leds that have the slidding piece that allow you to adjust the aim. It's pretty simple though. Halogen reflectors get halogen bulbs. Halogen projectors get halogen bulbs. HID projectors get HID Bulbs. LED projectors get LED bulbs (these are application specific, f150 LED will not work in an acura). Been quite an eventful day here in Hawaii fueling helicopters. Which is why I missed the halogen part. I can't stop people from buying what they want to buy but if they want to look like a dumbass driving down the road creating glare at oncoming traffic thats on them. Just like I advise everyone, go on hidplanet, candlepower do research. Just had a member of FEWW not listen to me at all and put LEDs in his 15 titanium after I sent him HID links to buy. He totally regrets it and now after installing them. Some people have to find out on their own. Just cause its a fad doesn't mean it works. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWPerfA_ZN0W Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 Def good advice, Nick, reading thru the forums you get more & more appreciation for the engineering that goes into these lighting components. It's just not easy to make comparisons between available products, because accurate specs are so hard to obtain. Then you have to be your own testing lab, spend money on parts & equipment, ... I hope the outcome in Hawaii is a positive one. Greatly saddened to hear about the collision. Prayers & best wishes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWizard Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 As I have said before, I have LEDs in my Mustang projectors and they work great! The pattern is sharp and evenly filled (without hot spots) and the distance is much better than the H9 halogens it came with. But we've been down this road before and it doesn't seem to matter to some that there are success stories out there, so we'll just have to agree to disagree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Halstead Posted January 16, 2016 Report Share Posted January 16, 2016 As I have said before, I have LEDs in my Mustang projectors and they work great! The pattern is sharp and evenly filled (without hot spots) and the distance is much better than the H9 halogens it came with. But we've been down this road before and it doesn't seem to matter to some that there are success stories out there, so we'll just have to agree to disagree. where's your cutoff? This is general headlight bulb knowledge that LEDs are junk in all things other than LED projectors. I'm not reinventing the wheel here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWizard Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 (edited) The cutoff is exactly the same as it was with the H9 bulbs so I guess the "general knowledge" isn't always accurate. Edited January 18, 2016 by TheWizard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Halstead Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 (edited) The image you posted is like the 6th image you get you when google HID Pattern. Lol You're a fraud guy. You're on here talking about your LEDs and you linked to a HID image on a florida motorcycle site. Ahahahaha. Let alone the image is named hidpattern.jpg ahahaha. You also said you LEDs have no hotspot which is the problem with LEDs. I'm done repling to you guy. Even when you comment back that you supposedly linked the wrong image. http://www.fl1v.org/ls1/hidpattern.jpg Edited January 18, 2016 by Nick Halstead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWizard Posted January 18, 2016 Report Share Posted January 18, 2016 You know, some people are just hard to deal with. Yes, that image is from a "Florida motorcycle site". That site is Chapter FL1-V of the Gold Wing Road Riders Association of which I am a member and former chapter director. It happens that the domain name is registered to me and is hosted on my server so I use it when I want to host an image or other file for posting. And you'll notice that the directory is "LS1" which I set up for posting things to LS1Tech.com where I am a moderator. The image is a stock image I use whenever I want to demonstrate what a proper HID (or LED) beam cutoff pattern should look like. I have used it dozens of times and it has been re-posted who knows how many times so I am not surprised that it comes up on Google. You see I've been doing this for a very long time and I have neither the time nor the inclination to get a new image every time some kibitzer wants to see a light pattern because they think they know everything. You asked what my light pattern looks like and that is what it looks like. If you want to see it for yourself then buy yourself a plane ticket and come look. Otherwise, stuff it! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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