Unable to program new Key

[Rustytools]

Ok, newish owner here I have made it through all the posts in this sub-forum, and have not found exactly what I needed so sorry if its a worn out topic.

I have a 2013 SEL and have two SA keys (IKT), both start the vehicle. To eliminate the danger of losing one of the two keys and needing to pay the dealer or locksmith a large sum I have ordered 2 IKT replacement keys from China (I know) the key is said to be a OUCD6000022 and 4D-63 CHIP.

Well when I follow the instructions in the owners manual (also found online) the new keys do not start the vehicle. There is no feedback from the displays other than dimming while the key is turned to start. I have been able to program one of the remotes to operate the doors using the 8 key turn method. The ITK's do include chips, but I have no way of knowing exactly which chip was supplied.

Can anyone suggest any troubleshooting steps I may be able to take?

TIA

 

[WWWPerfA_ZN0W]

Can you include pics & links of the :China" IKT keys you ordered/received, so we know what we are possibly looking at? How old is the battery in the Edge? Original, or replaced recently?

[candurin]

The '11-'14 Ford Edge IKT keys all have FCC ID CWTWB1U793 in common (SA 80 bit) and the ones you purchased are OUCD6000022. I think the keys you mentioned are for older MY Edges, not 2011-2014, just based on my 15 seconds of searching on Google.

 

I also recall that I had to use two separate procedures with my keys. One to program the fob portion of the key and another for the key itself.

 

Having said all that, there is a chance your keys may still work, based on the fact you have some partial success with the fob already.

Edited April 5, 2016 by candurin

[akirby]

I can tell you this - you can program a new Ford Fusion/Edge IA key to another vehicle but then it won't work with the original vehicle.

 

I tried doing this with my 2013 Fusion key on our new 2016 MKX. It worked great including remote start (but doesn't illuminate the approach lighting). But when I went to use it again on my Fusion it no worky. So now I have to go back to the dealer to get it reprogrammed.

 

Apparently with the 2-way remote start it actually updates the remote when you program it to the vehicle.

[Rustytools]

Thanks for the replies,

The keys (IKT) I ordered are

http://www.aliexpress.com/snapshot/7401057353.html?orderId=73369640576311

 

They say they are OUCD6000022 with 4D-63CHIP.

One of the remote transmitters works, although it gives me a trunk button which serves no purpose. The other remote does not seem to transmit as I have tried it many times and do not get a response (think it was horn beep or lock activation) like when I program the others.

The key blank works fine, it just does seem to have been read by the immobilizer circuit.

From what I have read, I need the 4D-63, 80 bit chip, I would of course love to have that confirmed by someone more familiar with the system.

 

I have replaced the remote battery with a known good battery, as to car battery, it came with car- I have only owned about 2 months.

 

Edit:

I am dealing with the vendor and thinking OUCD6000022 with 4D-63CHIP. identifies the proper key, (other than 4th button) if someone reading this finds that thought incorrect, please let me know. As for the vendor, this may be the only two he has ever sold, and seems to be looking for a way out.

Thanks

Edited April 5, 2016 by Rustytools

[WWWPerfA_ZN0W]

The key shown on the product page does not have SA lettering on it, do your new keys have it? This EBay listing shows IKTs that fit a 2013 Edge:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-New-Remote-Start-Head-Key-80-Bit-Keyless-Fob-Transmitter-Uncut-Blade-Combo-Car-/400924667244

[candurin]

These all work with the 2013 edge. They are all 80bit SA keys:

 

IKTs, IAs, Fobs (I know they are not Ford OEM numbers, but they work with google ).

164-R8070 (IKT: three buttons; lock, unlock, panic)

164-R8073 (IKT: four buttons; lock, unlock, trunk release, panic)

164-R8067 (IKT: four buttons; lock, unlock, remote start, panic)

164-R8000 (IKT: five button; lock, unlock, remote start, trunk/liftgate, panic)

* Note, seems like all IKTs have FCC ID: CWTWB1U793 in common

[Rustytools]

The SA or HA markings indicate the manufacturer of the key blank, my blanks work, I seem to have a problem with the chip used for the immobilizer. At this point I will probably try to order chips alone from some vendor who seems to be a bit more savvy on the keys. I had enough trouble finding someone who would cut my blanks, seeing as most places who are able to cut the key also sell basically the same product at 8 times the price.

[candurin]

Can you return the ones you purchased? This way you can then purchased one of the ones we (the forum members) have tried with success?

 

You are correct about the SA belonging to Strattec.

 

http://www.locksmithledger.com/article/10250626/technology-on-the-move-ford-80-bit-key-blanks

[Rustytools]

The nature of the beast is that I could not try to program keys without having them cut (have to place key in ignition and turn to on to program)

I can order new chips (and hope them come in correct) and place them in my IKT, I was trying above all else to make sure I was in the right when disputing sale from vendor, I will run out of time and have to do that today. If I could have been able to do more in the way of definitive trouble shooting it would have been good.

If I even knew someone else with a Ford new enough I could even hold their key next to mine and see if the vehicle would add the key using the chip in their key.

I would at least prove things were working on the vehicle side. Alas I am surrounded by GM lovers...

The moral of the story is buying from China is cheaper, but has its risks. Seemingly I bought 2 IKT's and have two unrecognized chips and one bad transmitter. I will make sure I don't buy from same guy again, I would list his company but, I'm sure that would not be proper.