Beezz Posted August 28, 2016 Report Share Posted August 28, 2016 (edited) So I have noticed more and more that when I have the transmission in sport and shift manually it shifts super hard. When downshifting the car lurches and makes abrupt jerks. When downshifting into first gear there is a loud clatter and an excessive lurch. It sounds so bad for the transmission. Another issue, the transmission takes f o r e v e r to shift from drive to reverse / reverse to drive. Many times when I shift and then push the gas nothing happens it feels like the clutch is slipping and gears are grinding until it finally engages. When I say forever I mean longer than 5 seconds from when you release the gear selector to pressing the gas. At certain points after a cold start (1-2 days) when I change from D-R or R-D and push the gas, the clutch slips and the car lunges and then once the clutch catches itself the car moves. I'll be seeing my dealer soon, however I wanted to see if anyone else has experience any similar issues. Update: Dealer #1 said there is no problem. Edited April 10, 2017 by Beezz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Halstead Posted August 28, 2016 Report Share Posted August 28, 2016 you use the paddles? I thought I would love them...I hate them! My datalogging is way faster letting the car change by itself as opposed to clicking the paddles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junehhan Posted August 28, 2016 Report Share Posted August 28, 2016 How many miles are you at now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beezz Posted August 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 28, 2016 (edited) Usually when towing or when there is a lot of weight in the car. 90% of the time its in auto, and yeah totally agree, its much faster when it shifts on its own. I'm almost at 18'000 km Now at 21'000 km and the issues are getting worse. Edited October 9, 2016 by Beezz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted August 29, 2016 Report Share Posted August 29, 2016 Paddles aren't for shifting faster - they're for holding a lower gear longer or downshifting before you hit the gas. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinyin Posted August 29, 2016 Report Share Posted August 29, 2016 (edited) The transmissions in these cars are junk. What a waste it was to develop such a great engine (the 2.7T Ecoboost) and then cheap out the build by mating it with the 6F55. Ford seriously needs to update the transmission ECM for smoother shifting, at lower rpm's, especially in third and fourth gears. I absolutely hate how the transmission constantly downshifts from 6th and 5th at certain speeds. It kills fuel economy and destroys the feel of the car. The engine has plenty of low end torque to pull in lower gears, yet this transmission is constantly hunting for higher gear. Very annoying, and I would expect much more in terms of refinement from a car in this pricing segment. Edited August 29, 2016 by pinyin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beezz Posted November 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2016 At 24'000 km's. After cold starts, the trans slips/ has a long delay in actually moving when I press the gas (it hesitates). For about 2-3 minutes after a cold start whenever I am sitting at a red light / stop sign there is a large amount of vibration and noise transferred into the cabin. If I shift into neutral the vibration stops and the 'grinding' noise stops. If I stick it back into drive I can hear the transmission literally SLAM into gear and then the problem comes right back. After 5-10 ish minutes the problem subsides as the temps increase. I am seriously concerned about the longevity of this transmission now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWPerfA_ZN0W Posted November 16, 2016 Report Share Posted November 16, 2016 Sounds more like a PTU type issue than a trans issue. Would definitely have it looked into, either way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blitz118 Posted November 17, 2016 Report Share Posted November 17, 2016 Ford is developing a nine-speed transmission with GM for FWD and AWD cars, but I guess we will not see it in the Edge for awhile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junehhan Posted November 18, 2016 Report Share Posted November 18, 2016 Depending on how cold it is and how long it is taking to warm up, what you are experiencing could be normal. It is something that the dealer will have to look at as a lot of interpretation of what feels should be normal is subjective. When you are warming up, it may be slamming into gears because the engine is running fast to get the emissions system up to temp as quickly as possible. Because it is running rich as well for the same reasons, it may feel rougher than after it has warmed up. It however should not be making grinding noises. What you are describing is exactly what my 2015 Corolla does. I will find out with my 2016 Sport as we are finally supposed to get some colder weather this weekend and I will update you. When you say it is slipping while cold, are the rpms actually jumping and flaring during shifts? Shifts with any of Ford's 6 speeds are extremely slow and sluggish when really cold which is partially because they are programmed that way to avoid damage until the fluid gets moving. Again what you are experiencing doesn't sound normal and thus a dealer needs to take a look. The good news is that you are under warranty. The 6F55 is a pretty solid transmission. It has been around since around 2009 and is nothing like that nightmare that the early 6F35's were. There are SHO's running low 12's with this transmission that are running fine. We have several Edge Sports on this forum that are running low 13's with race gas without problems. I had this transmission in a Lincoln MKT fleet car that I took with me to rural Alaska back then that did very well without problems. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beezz Posted November 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2016 Whenever its less than 70 degrees outside this problem occurs. When it slips, its within the first few minutes of driving, R to D and D to R is the worst, 2nd to 3rd is usually flaky as well. I can see the rpm dip as soon as I push the gas pedal. The rpm continues to fluctuate while the trans figures out which gear to get into, then once it selects the gear its almost like the clutches disengage the trans and the engine rpm surges down then up. Then when it catches finally the rpm levels out and then the car moves. A comparison to the R to D and D to R issue is being in a car with someone who's learning to drive stick. The car just lunges when starting off. The odd thing about the grinding is when I am stopped and shift from drive to neutral the grinding stops, when I shift back to drive the grinding comes back and the trans slams into gear. (The slamming isn't that noticeable while driving) The slamming is distinctly different than rough or hard shifts, it makes audible sounds. I drove the dealers 15 sport a few times and it had the same amount of kms yet had none of the issues I have described (driven in same type of weather). Maybe my transmission is just a dud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junehhan Posted November 19, 2016 Report Share Posted November 19, 2016 The dealer will have to take a look, but it definitely does not sound normal. It sounds like you would want them to take care of it before we really get into the middle of winter. It almost sounds like a bad sensor, but a deviation that far from normal operation would have triggered some sort of warning light. Considering how many vehicles the 6F55 is in, it certainly is possible that they will put out a dud every now and then. We just started having real winter like temperatures today and I experienced none of what you wrote in the original post other than what would be expected as the engine runs fast and rich for a longer period of time in order to get that all important emissions control system up to temperature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beezz Posted April 10, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2017 Had my dealer take a look a few months ago, they couldn't replicate the problems and called it a day. My dashcam recorded them checking the trans for about 30 seconds and then moving on, so idk how the expected to replicate the problem in 30 seconds. During the test drive they let the car warm up prior to taking it out, which I told them not to do since the issues aren't as apparent when things have warmed up (in writing left in the car for the tech and on the drop of form). For the past 2 weeks almost every time I shift from reverse to drive there is a even longer delay after I push the gas, and then about 5 seconds after the car moves there's a loud thump/bang coming from the back. Sounds like the rear differential or something along that drive-line is not being engaged when it should be, then it sounds as if I'm grinding a gear. Ill have another dealer check the transmission/driveline out this time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Halstead Posted April 10, 2017 Report Share Posted April 10, 2017 (edited) you have a twin turbo car and you just hop in and drive cold? Edited April 10, 2017 by Nick Halstead 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beezz Posted April 10, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2017 you have a twin turbo car and you just hop in and drive cold? Its usually in an insulated garage. 1 minute warm up max if its been sitting outside during the winter. I take it easy until the engine has been at temp for a few minutes. They had it running via remote start for like 7 minutes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Heath Jr Posted April 10, 2017 Report Share Posted April 10, 2017 You mentioned Towing in one of your earlier posts. What do you tow? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beezz Posted April 10, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2017 You mentioned Towing in one of your earlier posts. What do you tow? I towed a 4X7 rental trailer about 3 or 4 times with trees, stone etc. Kept the weight under 2000 lbs each time. Sometimes the cabin is loaded to the max. Do you think that either of these could have worn something down? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Heath Jr Posted April 10, 2017 Report Share Posted April 10, 2017 I towed a 4X7 rental trailer about 3 or 4 times with trees, stone etc. Kept the weight under 2000 lbs each time. Sometimes the cabin is loaded to the max. Do you think that either of these could have worn something down? As long as you are under 2000 you should be good. I would push it with the Dealer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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