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#21 OFFLINE   Denicio

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Posted 13 October 2016 - 09:02 AM

I think Ford is either using the wrong suppliers or cutting the contracts too thin - either way they're getting way too many bad parts the last several years.  From gas tanks to throttle bodies to headlights to transmission sensors to door latches.   I thought the problems were mostly due to a lot of new platforms and european based suppliers and/or designs but they've have more than enough time to fix that kind of stuff.

 

No doubt! This does make me think twice about buying a ford ever again.  Heck, i used to drive Mitsu's...NOT one of the BIG Japanese brands. Had 2 Montero Sports and an Endeavor over the course of about 10 years. Those things were wickedly reliable.  Sadly as my needs for high tech in a car grew Mitsu fell way behind. I think Mitsubishi is still putting 8 Tracks in their infotainment system (kidding).  My edge titanium is exactly what i want in a car as far as luxury, drive and technology......but damn all these things that make it stop and go are enough to make me think about trading out. Combined with 2+ months waiting for parts? Loosing faith in the brand. Over reacting? Possibly. But i've never had to worry about such things on a brand new 35K+ car.









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#22 OFFLINE   akirby

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Posted 13 October 2016 - 10:49 AM

My 06 Fusion was bulletproof for 7 years.   08 Edge only had one or two minor problems.   13 Fusion had several issues but none the last 18 months.  12 Focus (daughter's car) had a bad TCM and a flaky DCT trans before we traded it.   I like Fords too much to really change (outside of a Porsche maybe) but it's getting harder to recommend them to others.



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Posted 13 June 2017 - 01:18 PM

Dropped the Edge on Saturday for service and a few items to be addressed. The highly sensitive brakes issue is one of them. TSB information was provided and is showing on OASIS report according to the technician. Today, I got a call from the dealership to let me know they could not replicate the issue and as such they can not change the brake booster. This is the second time i report the issue to them and same response. I made it clear to them that it is a safety issue that need to be addressed and to go sort it out with Ford as I will not be taking the car back until it is safe to drive. Currently have a rental they are paying for. Any thoughts on other course of actions?



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Posted 13 June 2017 - 05:57 PM

I replaced the front pads & rotors & have yet to experience the issue. I had it a handful of times prior to the swap. My reasoning for changing them was the incredibly high amounts of brake dust accumulating on the wheels in all 4 corners. Currently have about 1,000 miles (maybe more) & haven't had the issue. I also just changed the rear pads only as i didn't feel changing the rotors was worth it.

Centric Premium Rotors 12561118 & StopTech Z231818 for the fronts & Centric Posi-Quiet pads 105.16650 for the rear.

Granted, spending money on this is not ideal, but i have much better stopping power & even more importantly, far less brake dust.

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#25 OFFLINE   NeuroBeaker

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Posted 11 March 2018 - 03:13 PM

This was a great link: http://www.fordedgef...16-lincoln-mkx/

 

Where is the brake booster located so that we can check to see what version of the part we presently have installed?

 

All the best,

Andrew.


Edited by NeuroBeaker, 11 March 2018 - 03:14 PM.


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Posted 12 March 2018 - 06:27 AM

Not easy to get to.  You will have to take out the battery first.



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Posted 18 May 2018 - 12:24 PM

This was a great link: http://www.fordedgef...16-lincoln-mkx/

 

Where is the brake booster located so that we can check to see what version of the part we presently have installed?

 

All the best,

Andrew.

 

As it turned out, I did indeed have the overly-sensitive brake booster installed on the vehicle so the brake pedal was effectively an on/off switch.  The updated F2GZ-2005-E brake booster was installed by the dealership under the warranty and the brakes are excellent now - natural to modulate and have fine control over light braking.

 

If anyone else finds their initial braking difficult to modulate, or that their brakes have a very binary on/off feel to them, I highly recommend this update.  Even if your vehicle is not under warranty and you'd have to pay out of pocket to get this done, I'd still highly recommend it.  The car is much easier and more civilized to drive smoothly when maneuvering on the driveway, proceeding through parking lots, or commuting in heavy slow traffic.  Braking performance for heavy stops is unaffected when you need maximum braking force.

 

All the best,

Andrew.


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#28 OFFLINE   NeuroBeaker

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Posted 11 September 2018 - 03:49 PM

 

As it turned out, I did indeed have the overly-sensitive brake booster installed on the vehicle so the brake pedal was effectively an on/off switch.  The updated F2GZ-2005-E brake booster was installed by the dealership under the warranty and the brakes are excellent now - natural to modulate and have fine control over light braking.

 

If anyone else finds their initial braking difficult to modulate, or that their brakes have a very binary on/off feel to them, I highly recommend this update.  Even if your vehicle is not under warranty and you'd have to pay out of pocket to get this done, I'd still highly recommend it.  The car is much easier and more civilized to drive smoothly when maneuvering on the driveway, proceeding through parking lots, or commuting in heavy slow traffic.  Braking performance for heavy stops is unaffected when you need maximum braking force.

 

All the best,

Andrew.

 

Hmmm... since this post, I've noticed I've been losing brake fluid.  After getting a low brake fluid warning on the dash, I bought a bottle from Ford on 30th July 2018 and topped it up to the maximum mark.  As of today, I'm back to the minimum mark again.  I suspect something has not gone right with the brake booster replacement, since brake fluid should be in a closed system and I didn't have these problems prior to May 2018.

 

The car is going in for service tomorrow so I'll ask the dealer to follow up.

 

All the best,

Andrew.



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Posted 12 September 2018 - 01:02 AM

could be the master cylinder leaking into the brake booster.  as long as it's not out of pocket, LOL.



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Posted 16 September 2018 - 03:52 PM

could be the master cylinder leaking into the brake booster.  as long as it's not out of pocket, LOL.

 

As it turns out, you're exactly right.  The mechanic who did my warranty work on the Brake Booster earlier in the year cross threaded a connector to the master cylinder and that was where the leak was occurring.  Unfortunately, the damage necessitated the replacement of the master cylinder and the dealership didn't have one in stock - so I've been without my Edge for a few days.

 

The dealership was also out of rental cars to give me.  However, since this was their mistake, they took one of the new cars off the sale lot and gave me the keys. So my wife and I have been "test driving" an EcoSport SE for the last several says.  It's not a bad little car, but a 1.0 EcoBoost engine has nothing on the naturally aspirated 3.5 V6 of our Edge.  I'm also missing the comforts of the Titanium trim level and some of the plastics feel a bit budget, but there's over $20,000 in price difference between the new MSRP of my car and this one so that's hardly a fair comparison for it.  It feels like it would make a good first new car for a teenager just going off to university - low insurance group, solid build, safe, and reliable.  As I'm a little beyond my university years now, I like the extra space and comfort of the Edge.

 

I'll get my Edge back tomorrow.  Looking forward to it.  :)

 

All the best,

Andrew.


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Posted 17 September 2018 - 01:14 AM

Hope they get it back to you in 110% shape.  Good luck!


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Posted 18 September 2018 - 01:34 PM

Hope they get it back to you in 110% shape.  Good luck!

 

Thank you - all is well! :)

 

Brakes feel good and hopefully the brake fluid levels will be maintained.  I'm going to keep a close eye on the brake fluid tank over the next couple of weeks to make sure that's solved the problem.

 

All the best,

Andrew.


Edited by NeuroBeaker, 18 September 2018 - 01:35 PM.

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#33 OFFLINE   t0lkman

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Posted 19 September 2018 - 02:20 AM

Technical Service Bulletin #SSM 45857 and NHTSA #10081005.

 

 

is it right TSB for the issue?



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Posted 10 October 2018 - 05:21 PM

is it right TSB for the issue?


This might be it: 2015 Ford Edge Equipment Service Bulletin 448044

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Posted 10 October 2018 - 06:48 PM

HA! And my #1 pet peeve are the Spelling Nazi's…

 

while we're at it, there's no apostrophe needed if you want plural "nazis."

 

sorry, i couldn't resist.


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Posted 10 October 2018 - 09:48 PM

I am noticing this on my 2018.  It is only after when I start up cold in the morning at low speeds like leaving a parking lot or my garage.  After on the road things feel fine.  



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Posted 10 October 2018 - 10:25 PM

I am noticing this on my 2018.  It is only after when I start up cold in the morning at low speeds like leaving a parking lot or my garage.  After on the road things feel fine.  

so it's not only 2016 models have the same issue?



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Posted 10 October 2018 - 11:02 PM

Same here with my 2016 Sport.

 

I am noticing this on my 2018.  It is only after when I start up cold in the morning at low speeds like leaving a parking lot or my garage.  After on the road things feel fine.  

 

I was thinking it was from the pedal sticking to my shoe, but reading your comment, it does happen at cold starts at low speeds.



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Posted 13 October 2018 - 01:42 AM

how difficult is the fix? does it worth to bring it to the dealer for a fix?






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