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#1 OFFLINE   foghelmut

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Posted 13 June 2017 - 09:33 AM

http://www.autonews....ights-rate-good

 

 

The Ford Edge was another model that received a poor rating for its lack of visibility.

 

 

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Ford Edge rated as pretty terrible.

 

 

Its amazing, I have the same bulbs in my Impreza as the Edge, but my Impreza lights up the whole road. My Edge is like trying to light my way with a potato.

 

 

 

I see there are a few threads about HID conversions, but has anyone just tried sticking a H9 bulb in there?  It's the same bulb as the H11, just more wattage.


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#2 OFFLINE   Nick Halstead

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Posted 13 June 2017 - 10:33 AM

a light source is only as it's projector. H9 mod is a very good alternative. I did it on my Fusion headlights and foglights and my wife was happy with it compared to the H11.



#3 OFFLINE   CCMAYES72

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Posted 17 June 2017 - 07:25 PM

I agree, I have a 2016 EDGE SEL and the headlights are terrible.  Is this H9 bulb you suggest a drop in alternative?  Did you try it?  I would like to do something without spending a lot of money on this car, as I really don't love it and am not sure how long we will keep it. Also how much cost and work is involved with these conversion kits you mentioned?



#4 OFFLINE   foghelmut

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Posted 17 June 2017 - 08:46 PM

The H9 bulb has the same dimensions as the H11, but it won't fit the H11 plug. You'll have to either get an adapter cable or shave the H9 socket. There are instructions online available. It's the same filament but a higher wattage, so you get a brighter light at the expense of a shorter lifespan.
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#5 OFFLINE   lildisco

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Posted 17 June 2017 - 11:49 PM

I've done the conversion & it's a drastic improvement over stock. Is it comparable to HID? Definitely not. Will it give you more usable light for under $30,yes.

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Edited by lildisco, 17 June 2017 - 11:49 PM.

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#6 OFFLINE   four7bird

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Posted 11 October 2017 - 03:32 PM

has anyone tried an LED bulb instead?



#7 OFFLINE   enigma-2

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Posted 11 October 2017 - 09:54 PM

LED bulbs are garbage. OEM manufacturers don't use them, they use individual LEDS positioned in a specific reflectors. LED bulbs have been reported to be not as bright as standard Halagen's.

The Best bulbs in a Halagen reflector are Phillips VisionPlus bulbs. Here's what I used in my MKX. https://www.amazon.c...a_oGT3zbBMFWB8A
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#8 OFFLINE   sylvainm

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Posted 11 November 2017 - 02:23 PM

I just replaced both low and high beams original light bulbs with Philips X-Treme Vision and didn't notice any improvement. I took before/after pictures in darkness, and if it wasn't for the pictures' time stamps, I wouldn't be able to tell which one's which.

Edited by sylvainm, 11 November 2017 - 02:37 PM.


#9 ONLINE   omar302

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Posted 11 November 2017 - 10:59 PM

A camera image at night is not a good way to judge lighting performance or differences unless you use the exact same manual (exposure?) settings. With auto, the camera will adjust based on available light.


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#10 OFFLINE   enigma-2

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Posted 12 November 2017 - 05:34 PM

I just replaced both low and high beams original light bulbs with Philips X-Treme Vision and didn't notice any improvement. I took before/after pictures in darkness, and if it wasn't for the pictures' time stamps, I wouldn't be able to tell which one's which.

What brand/model bulbs were you replacing?
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Edited by enigma-2, 12 November 2017 - 05:35 PM.


#11 OFFLINE   foghelmut

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Posted 13 November 2017 - 11:26 AM

I ended up putting in the H9 bulbs in.  The 65w is much brighter than the standard 55w, and the light actually fills out the field width. The projector lenses keep the light from causing any excess glare or unnatural patterns. Now the headlights are almost as bright as my Subaru with standard H11 bulbs.  This is just a poor headlight housing design on these Fords.


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#12 OFFLINE   sylvainm

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Posted 13 November 2017 - 07:23 PM

What brand/model bulbs were you replacing?
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They're OEM:
Low beam: Philips H11, 55W 12362 LL.
High beam: Sylvania 9005, 60W, HB3U, E1.

#13 OFFLINE   todd92

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Posted 23 December 2017 - 02:32 PM

My headlights don't suck.  This is the main reason I got the 302A package.



#14 OFFLINE   Val Stanis

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Posted 11 January 2018 - 10:47 PM

Any issues with installing H9 bulb 65w, it will overload the electric wiring or wiring is OK?

My only concern about heat and load produced by using H9 65w.



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Posted 12 January 2018 - 01:22 AM

Any issues with installing H9 bulb 65w, it will overload the electric wiring or wiring is OK?
My only concern about heat and load produced by using H9 65w.

No, as the difference is minimal.

Edited by omar302, 12 January 2018 - 01:22 AM.


#16 OFFLINE   TheWizard

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Posted 12 January 2018 - 10:03 AM

My LED lights are Philips chips.

 

Six posts and every one is about the same scam artist LED bulb website.

 

LED lights have potential but without extensive real world testing they are mostly over-hyped and not practical.  There are a few that can work reasonably well but they are much more than $59.95 per pair and they don't promise impossible levels of output.

 

H9 is the most compatible upgrade from H11 since it increases light output without any significant change to the bulb design other than the filament (yes, you have to shave a tab in the connector to make it fit).  The difference is noticeable - about a 45% increase in output - but it still might not be enough depending on your situation.

 

At this point a good HID conversion kit would be the next step up.  A good HID kit will give you a little over twice as much light output as the H11 but it means spending $150 or more for a name brand like Morimoto or Diode Dynamics - not a $35 kit from DDM Tuning or ebay.  And it involves some lighting system modification, often requiring dust cap changes and relay kits.


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#17 OFFLINE   foghelmut

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Posted 12 January 2018 - 11:59 AM

Any issues with installing H9 bulb 65w, it will overload the electric wiring or wiring is OK?

My only concern about heat and load produced by using H9 65w.

 

I've had H9 in for months, no issues. 



#18 OFFLINE   akirby

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Posted 12 January 2018 - 04:44 PM

lessonstar was flagged as a spammer. I told him/her to remove the novsights url from their signature (on here and blueovalforums) so instead they put a hyperlink in the post itself. Buh-bye!

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Posted 12 January 2018 - 04:47 PM

Correction - that was on a different forum. My permissions are messed up so I’ll have to get Robert to do it here but I hid the spam post in the meantime.

#20 OFFLINE   enigma-2

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Posted 12 January 2018 - 07:10 PM

Any issues with installing H9 bulb 65w, it will overload the electric wiring or wiring is OK?
My only concern about heat and load produced by using H9 65w.

A little over a year ago I remember reading some reports about this hotter bulb causing crazing and fogging on the inside of the housing. Wasn't an Edge or MKX, (forget which brand it was) but the thread had two or three reporting same problem. Never read anyone reporting this on an a Edge housing however.




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