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#241 037

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Posted 03 June 2018 - 06:26 AM

Any update on power, maybe track numbers?







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#242 snmjim

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Posted 03 June 2018 - 06:42 AM

Xtra still doesn't have his ride back and SpecialK and I haven't been in a position to install our Turbos due to manufacture data obligations before Turbos...:-(

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Posted 03 June 2018 - 07:04 AM

If it is not one thing it is another it has been a full month and I am still waiting. The performance work is done. The warranty work is done.  But my car was vandalized and suffered some minor damage. The hood wrap and a dent in the hood is the worst of it there is some scratches in the rear trunk hatch , some scratches and small dents in the drivers door and the headlight wrap was messed up as well. about $3,500 worth.

Some people are haters :spiteful: so don't take your custom bitchen' car into the barrio.  :(  :shrug:


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Posted 03 June 2018 - 07:12 AM

Thanks for the update, sorry to hear about your ride Xtra.
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Posted 03 June 2018 - 12:32 PM

Dang!  Hope your Edge gets fixed up right, Xtra!


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Posted 09 June 2018 - 02:28 PM

My car is fixed up like new and I had a chance to drive it a little. When putting around in stop and go city traffic there is no difference at all. I was just cruising at around 30 mph and decided to open it up a little . I punched it to 3/4 throttle, it down shifted and broke the tire loose. I accelerated to around 50 MPH with the tires complaining all the way. Seat of the pants say it is as strong with the stock tune as it was before the mods with the V3 tune. I have yet to run full throttle I am going to baby it until I can get it on a dyno and know it is safe to run wide open.


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Posted 09 June 2018 - 10:27 PM

Gave it more gas and took it to around 5,800 rpm, it has much better top end than ever before and pulls hard all the way.  I still haven't just floored it off the line yet and let it shift at red line. Or held the brake, let the turbos spool up and give it all she's got. I am taking it slow until I can get some feedback on the dyno. 


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Posted 10 June 2018 - 06:24 AM

Think you should invest in a dragy so the rest of us could get numbers faster:-)

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Posted 02 July 2018 - 04:20 AM

Just got back from the Dyno Shop and have the base numbers. I was surprised by the numbers especially the V3 output and how after 5,000rpm power fell off so quick. All numbers are taken at the wheels. 
 
Stock HP 224.3 @ 5,000 rpm
Stock TQ  280 @ 3,400 rpm
 
LMS 91 V3 HP 231.7 @ 5250rpm
LMS 91V3 TQ 305 @ 3,500 rpm
                                                                      attachicon.gifDYNO STOCK AND LMS91-V3.JPG
           Pink is stock. Green is V3 Tune. The upper two lines are TQ. The bottom two lines are HP.
 
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Xtra, took some time for me to find this post but I just wanted to get on the same page.

I went racing on Friday in 80 degree heat with 2000DA and the LMS v3 93 tune fell straight on its face.

I got 2 runs close to 14 flat at 95mph, car was getting stuck in 4th gear and refused to shift to 5th.

I upped the octane to about 97 and went 13.4 @ 103.

Upped tune to 100 and smaller issue in 4th gear, trapped only 101 even though 1/8 started out 1mph higher than 93 tune.

Went back to 93 tune and back to 103mph trap speed.

Point is, I think I see the source of your low power issue on LMS v3 and I think they over cooked the tune.

I was racing in the 40s and did not have that issue so our view points were different.

Since I'm not on LMS payroll I call them like I see them.

I sent them a message to alert them to the issue.

Hopefully this helps with your build too.

Edited by 037, 02 July 2018 - 04:25 AM.

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Posted 02 July 2018 - 04:34 AM

Slips to back up the above post, ran 10 times on Friday @ Island Dragway with GT500Rs X3 M40i.

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Posted 03 July 2018 - 01:34 AM

Xtra, took some time for me to find this post but I just wanted to get on the same page.

I went racing on Friday in 80 degree heat with 2000DA and the LMS v3 93 tune fell straight on its face.

I got 2 runs close to 14 flat at 95mph, car was getting stuck in 4th gear and refused to shift to 5th.

I upped the octane to about 97 and went 13.4 @ 103.

Upped tune to 100 and smaller issue in 4th gear, trapped only 101 even though 1/8 started out 1mph higher than 93 tune.

Went back to 93 tune and back to 103mph trap speed.

Point is, I think I see the source of your low power issue on LMS v3 and I think they over cooked the tune.

I was racing in the 40s and did not have that issue so our view points were different.

Since I'm not on LMS payroll I call them like I see them.

I sent them a message to alert them to the issue.

Hopefully this helps with your build too.

 

Thanks  :)



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Posted 03 July 2018 - 08:27 AM

Here is their response:

We would recommend checking the trans fluid level and overfilling by 1 pint

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Posted 03 July 2018 - 05:07 PM

I think 450whp will be pushing it based on the 3.5 numbers we get. You may get it but I wonder what the engine will handle long term. Just shy of 500whp has been very reliable in the 3.5. Also how to you plan on overcoming the fueling issue? The hpfp seems to be the bottle neck on lost ecoboost. If it happens to be the same pump as the 3.5 you may have a decent amount of room. If it is the same pump as the 3.5 I think you should look at the livernois hpfp. It would allow you to run an e30 blend and still have enough fuel something the stock pump more than likely wont do.
Im very excited to see what you can do.
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Posted 03 July 2018 - 11:02 PM

Xtra, took some time for me to find this post but I just wanted to get on the same page.
I went racing on Friday in 80 degree heat with 2000DA and the LMS v3 93 tune fell straight on its face.
I got 2 runs close to 14 flat at 95mph, car was getting stuck in 4th gear and refused to shift to 5th.
I upped the octane to about 97 and went 13.4 @ 103.
Upped tune to 100 and smaller issue in 4th gear, trapped only 101 even though 1/8 started out 1mph higher than 93 tune.
Went back to 93 tune and back to 103mph trap speed.
Point is, I think I see the source of your low power issue on LMS v3 and I think they over cooked the tune.
I was racing in the 40s and did not have that issue so our view points were different.
Since I'm not on LMS payroll I call them like I see them.
I sent them a message to alert them to the issue.
Hopefully this helps with your build too.

 

Point is DA will effect power, Friday was +1300 to +1950 DA with a lot of humidity. In the 40’s with little humidity and -1000DA the car will run like a champ.

 

Slips to back up the above post, ran 10 times on Friday @ Island Dragway with GT500Rs X3 M40i.


STOCK M40i ; )
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