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#1 OFFLINE   enigma-2

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Posted 04 March 2018 - 10:01 PM

Theory:
https://youtu.be/j-Wf4lRhILc

Conclusion:
https://youtu.be/WcMBbop_11k

Can buy the Neodymium magnets to trap steel particles here:
https://goo.gl/images/QWym5p

and the aluminum magnets here: https://www.officede...uminum-Magnets/

(chuckle)

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Posted 04 March 2018 - 10:07 PM

A lot of drain plugs now have them. My harley has it, my mustang has it. 


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Posted 04 March 2018 - 10:24 PM

A lot of drain plugs now have them. My harley has it, my mustang has it. 

True enough. But the new ECO engines have plastic drain plugs.
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Posted 04 March 2018 - 10:33 PM

True enough. But the new ECO engines have plastic drain plugs.

Plastic turbos are next! 


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Posted 05 March 2018 - 03:23 AM

Plastic turbos are next! 

Yup. Standard on the 2021 Edge with the 0.4L flathead upgrade. Also heard that Ford was experimenting with plastic catolitic converters as well. Have to change them at every oil change though.
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Posted 06 March 2018 - 06:48 AM

I've never used magnets other than drain plugs with magnets that come with some vehicles.  Sounds like using them could be helpful.

 

I do one thing that wasn't mentioned.  I fill the new oil filter ( when possible ) . Some filters are on such an angle can't get much in them. Then you have the upside down filter :-(    I figure the oil goes through the filter first before getting to the bearings, so if the filter is already full , it doesn't have to be filled by oil pump before getting to engine. May help illuminate dry start. 

 

The filter on my Edge 3.5 is vertical so I can completely fill it.

 

I may be old school on this but that's the way I do it.

 

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Posted 06 March 2018 - 07:56 AM

I haven't done this on the Edge because I haven't bothered to look for a fuse that would disable the ignition.  I used to crank the car with the ignition disabled until the pressure would build up. I also would prefill the filter. 


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Posted 26 May 2018 - 06:35 AM

PaulSchott,

 

If you want to crank engine to build oil pressure, hold WOT, engine won't start until you release throttle.

 

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Posted 28 May 2018 - 10:12 AM

Where do I put the magnets on my 2018 Edge Sport.......plastic oil filter cover kind of negates normal placement !



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Posted 28 May 2018 - 11:25 AM

https://www.amazon.c...i_Q3cdBbPDEE4C4

Secure with a wire tie.

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Posted 28 May 2018 - 10:31 PM

Filter magnets, pan magnets, hyperdyne tru-flo framister condensers... whatever.  The most important part of an oil change is that you do them regularly with a quality oil, dino or synth, and with a quality filter.

 

QED Thus Endeth the Lesson


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Posted 04 July 2018 - 09:36 PM

I've never had the pan off so is the windage tray plastic or metal?



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Posted 17 August 2018 - 04:40 PM

More reason to use a top rated synthetic oil. Amsoil is the top here.Been using for 30 years and would not use anything else.


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Posted 07 September 2018 - 12:44 PM

Amsoil is a freaking sham and provides no better wear numbers than Mobil 1 or any other leading Synthetic meeting API SN or SNPLUS.

Please dont spread misinformation or quote me with an article from 2008 about it.
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Posted 07 September 2018 - 11:28 PM

If Amsoil was a sham why does it have such a good reputation amongst its users?  BITOG has gone through the chemical analysis and it has great chemical properties and its been on the market for years.  If it was snake oil it probably wouldn't have lasted this long under real world scrutiny. 

 

Also, if it provides no better numbers than M-1 and you call it a sham, is then logically, is M-1 a sham also?  I am not a user of Amsoil so I cannot offer any direct feedback but I think your assertion of it being a 'sham' is kinda' off base.



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Posted 08 September 2018 - 01:18 PM

I think the point was it’s not significantly better than other oils despite claims that it is significantly better.
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Posted 08 September 2018 - 03:04 PM

The point was that if you belive all of the marketing crap behind AMSOIL or even Royal Purple, you are a fool. For example, Mobil 1 EP is an ester based oil, as is AMSOIL and RP. The same wear numbers and similar TBN's prove that the pricey "boutique" oils are NOT any more suited for wear protection or even deposit protection.

 

Any oils meeting the API SN or SNPLUS rating, as well as ILSAC GF-5, are excellent oils and the main differences between them is how LONG you can go for an OCI. 

 

 

Remember folks: The best oil filter is a good air filter. (And don't buy a KN gauze garbage filter!)


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Posted 09 September 2018 - 12:39 AM

OK, now I understand.  While your assertion is not that the actual oil is a sham, the claims they make are a sham.  (thanks akirby for the clarification.)  As I said, I am not an Amsoil user - I do, in fact, use Mobil-1 and have for many years on my current Edge and former 213k mileage Explorer.  But I am of the belief, and have stated it in this forum, as long as you use a quality oil and change it at regular intervals, you'll probably be just fine.  Heck, my dad swore by Ray-Lube and routinely got 150k+ out of our 60's and 70's family cars. 


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Posted 10 September 2018 - 09:42 AM

The point was that if you belive all of the marketing crap behind AMSOIL or even Royal Purple, you are a fool. For example, Mobil 1 EP is an ester based oil, as is AMSOIL and RP. The same wear numbers and similar TBN's prove that the pricey "boutique" oils are NOT any more suited for wear protection or even deposit protection.

 

Any oils meeting the API SN or SNPLUS rating, as well as ILSAC GF-5, are excellent oils and the main differences between them is how LONG you can go for an OCI. 

 

 

Remember folks: The best oil filter is a good air filter. (And don't buy a KN gauze garbage filter!)

 

I'd be willing to bet there is no significant difference between any oils you mention here and Walmart brand Supertech synthetic - that's why I've been using it for years and will continue to do so.



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Posted 10 September 2018 - 11:41 AM

I highly recommend using only conventional oil 15W40 in our 3.5L engines here in the U.S. :bliss: :bliss:

 

J/K!

 

As far as wearing similarly/wear numbers, "show me the money"!  Does anyone on this forum post oil analysis data with usage details?  Or do we assume what is good for one engine is good for all?


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