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2016 Edge performance chips

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#1 OFFLINE   Ralph31

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Posted 14 May 2018 - 02:28 PM

Has anyone purchased a performance chip for their Edge? I have the V6 no turbo. There is plenty of performance, the gas mileage I'm getting is about 23MPG's combined. 

I was curious if anyone had purchased a performance chip and their experience.

 









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#2 OFFLINE   akirby

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Posted 14 May 2018 - 06:26 PM

Chips don’t work - period. Don’t waste your time. A tuner is the only real option.

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Posted 14 May 2018 - 07:10 PM

Chips don’t work - period. Don’t waste your time. A tuner is the only real option.

Hi thanks for the input. That is what I would expect. I know there is more power available through the mapping and maybe additional through the advance curve.

What tuner have you used on an Edge and what were the results?



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Posted 14 May 2018 - 09:01 PM

None personally but if you do a forum search (upper right corner you’ll find tons of info.

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 05:33 AM

The tunes are all pretty much v6 turbo. Get a set of light weight wheels and summer tires and call it a day. Good for about .2 off the 1/4 mile on my car.
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Posted 15 May 2018 - 08:05 AM

There are tunes available for NA V6 models but I haven't tried any of them.  You're not going to get much of a performance boost without running higher octane fuel because there's not much power to be had without advancing the ignition timing (which would cause knock without more octane).  That may not be something you want with the current rising fuel prices and desire for fuel economy (higher octane won't affect mileage but it will cost more which kinda defeats the purpose).

 

One advantage you can gain with a tune without other changes is automatic transmission shifting improvements.  Tunes can set the transmission to shift at higher RPM and more firmly.


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Posted 15 May 2018 - 12:46 PM

Thank you for all the inputs. Not surprised there is little that can be done to justify the cost of a couple hundred dollars for very minimal gain. I noticed everyone that responded is from outside California. The reason I mentioned this is this state has stricter smog requirements than most others. I had driven my sisters Envoy a few years back in Pa. and was impressed with the performance. Decided to look at one out here. There was a noticeable performance difference. So this is what brings me to the performance chips, suspecting the car has been de-tuned to meet Ca. requirements. Not to mention the "summer gas blend" that serves to also dramatically reduce performance.

I have also noticed this on motorcycles as well.



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Posted 15 May 2018 - 01:36 PM

Thank you for all the inputs. Not surprised there is little that can be done to justify the cost of a couple hundred dollars for very minimal gain. I noticed everyone that responded is from outside California. The reason I mentioned this is this state has stricter smog requirements than most others. I had driven my sisters Envoy a few years back in Pa. and was impressed with the performance. Decided to look at one out here. There was a noticeable performance difference. So this is what brings me to the performance chips, suspecting the car has been de-tuned to meet Ca. requirements. Not to mention the "summer gas blend" that serves to also dramatically reduce performance.

I have also noticed this on motorcycles as well.

 

Yes, it is true that California vehicles are often tuned by the manufacturer to meet stricter emissions standards and therefore may not have the same performance as the 49-state versions.  However, summer gas actually produces more performance than winter blends.  This is because summer gas must meet lower RVP (Reid Vapor Pressure) limits so that the raw gas doesn't evaporate into the atmosphere so easily.  That means removing butane from the winter blend because it evaporates so easily.  Butane is cheap and plentiful so winter gas is less expensive.  But it is also less energy dense than gasoline (butane has only about 3/4 the energy density of gasoline) so overall, winter blend gas has just under 2% less energy than summer blend and thus produces less mileage and performance than summer blend (although 2% is not a huge difference).

 

There is no such thing as a performance chip for modern engines.  That was a term left over from years ago when tuners used to physically replace a logic chip in the engine controller with one that changed various parameters to produce more performance.  These days engine computers are very complicated devices that can't be modified in that way.  Any "performance chips" you may have seen for late model cars are pure scams that consist of nothing more than a resistor disguised as a logic chip.  These "chips" do nothing positive and can lead to serious engine damage... don't ever buy one.

 

BTW, for your motorcycle, try using marine gas (pure gasoline with no ethanol).  It is available at many gas stations and almost all marinas.  The lack of ethanol improves performance (enough to actually feel the difference rather than just measure it) and it stores better over time when not in use (ethanol blends will separate into useless muck fairly quickly) and it's less corrosive for your fuel system components.


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Posted 15 May 2018 - 02:19 PM

New York has the same emissions as CA I believe.

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Posted 15 May 2018 - 03:10 PM

Thank you very much for the great advice on the marine fuel in my bike! Just have to go find it. It also solves a problem a friend has with his boat. 3 month old premix without any stabilizer added! It runs, but not well. I told him the fuel is questionable being premix it breaks down quick. 

 

I agree the "chip" is actually a resistor to fool the computer into thinking the engine is still trying to warm up. Consumers pay $40.00 for a $0.10 part. Complete waste of money and can be harmful. 

What I hoped to find is the tuner that optimizes the performance of the engine and not sacrifices it to meet smog.

 

My belief that the summer blend had less performance was based on my experience back in the 90's I pulled a boat with a 92 4L V6 with manual 5 speed. I could take the hills in 5th without much trouble when they switched to the summer blend down to forth I went!  Perhaps the blend has since changed. Either way I appreciate the information and this will help extend the life of my bike, and other gas engines I use less in the winter. Thank you ! :)






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