akirby Posted June 12, 2018 Report Share Posted June 12, 2018 2019 Edge Order Guide.pdf Notes: Only one option package for each trim level - 00A (base), 01A (optional) 100 (SE), 200 (SEL), 300 (Titanium), 400 (ST) No 3.5L SE is the fleet special with almost no options. 8 speed transmission standard Auto stop/start and Intelligent Access standard on all models Cold weather, AWD and cargo accessory package available on all models Trailer tow pkg available on SEL 201A and higher Vista Roof optional on SEL 201A and Titanium 300A, std on 301A Titanium Elite appearance package available on 301A Standard on all Edges now: Ford Co-Pilot360 Protect™ includes;— Auto-High Beam Headlamps— BLIS® (Blind Spot Information System) with Cross-Traffic Alert— Lane-Keeping System (includes Lane-Keeping Assist, Lane-Keeping Alert and Driver Alert)— Pre-Collision Assist with Automatic Emergency Braking (AEB) (Pedestrian Detection, Forward Collision Warning, Dynamic Brake Support)— Rear View Camera (includes Camera Washer★)FordPass™ Connect— Remotely start, lock and unlock vehicle1— Schedule specific times to remotely start vehicle1— Locate parked vehicle1— Check vehicle status1— Wi-Fi® hotspot connects up to 10 devices2 Note: Ford Telematics™ Prep included for Fleet ONLY: FordPass™ Connect enables telematics services through authorized partners. Activate at www.fleet.ford.com or call 888-459-0255. Ford Co-Pilot360 Assist+ available as a stand alone option on SEL 201A and Titanium 300A (std on 301A)- Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC) with Stop-and-Go and Lane Centering- Evasive Steering Assist- Voice-Activated Touchscreen Navigation System with Pinch-to-Zoom Capability, SiriusXM Traffic and Travel Link® 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmr061 Posted June 12, 2018 Report Share Posted June 12, 2018 Ah...the ST is tempting. I wonder what the date is for the late availability of the special braking package...hate it when they do that with stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
037 Posted June 12, 2018 Report Share Posted June 12, 2018 Thanks for that! Curious about pricing, AWD disconnect, and 18" rotors, seriously? That's gotta be a typo...current ones are 13" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted June 12, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2018 Pricing should be within a few hundred of the current pricing for comparably equipped models. I expect the ST to be a few thousand higher than the current Sport. 18" rotors must be a typo - in the pictures they look to only be 14" or so compared to the 21" wheels. My guess on AWD disconnect is that it must be disconnecting the PTU - that's the only thing that would be new compared to the current system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
037 Posted June 12, 2018 Report Share Posted June 12, 2018 Standard stop start feature for the engine might be a problem for drag racers. On the ST, couple thousand could be the difference of going with another vehicle... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted June 12, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2018 Standard stop start feature for the engine might be a problem for drag racers. On the ST, couple thousand could be the difference of going with another vehicle... It can be turned off via a dash button. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted June 12, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2018 As for going with another vehicle - what options are there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Halstead Posted June 12, 2018 Report Share Posted June 12, 2018 Standard stop start feature for the engine might be a problem for drag racers. On the ST, couple thousand could be the difference of going with another vehicle... with Auto Start/Stop on in a 2017 Audi S3, the drag times were only .0# off with it on and off. I can't find the current post about it in the 8V group Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Halstead Posted June 12, 2018 Report Share Posted June 12, 2018 As for going with another vehicle - what options are there? at $50k+ A lot and then used car market really comes into play in my opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omar302 Posted June 12, 2018 Report Share Posted June 12, 2018 18" rotors must be a typo - in the pictures they look to only be 14" or so compared to the 21" wheels. I think it refers to the minimum wheel size. On my 2016 Sport ETIS has it listed as "Brake Disc 18 Fr Vent/17 Sol Rear", guess the ST brake package nets you bigger rear vented discs instead of solids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Halstead Posted June 12, 2018 Report Share Posted June 12, 2018 this clearly proves that the Edge Sport/Edge ST=same suspension Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Halstead Posted June 12, 2018 Report Share Posted June 12, 2018 It can be turned off via a dash button. and coded completely out via forscan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blitz118 Posted June 12, 2018 Report Share Posted June 12, 2018 Pricing should be within a few hundred of the current pricing for comparably equipped models. I expect the ST to be a few thousand higher than the current Sport. 18" rotors must be a typo - in the pictures they look to only be 14" or so compared to the 21" wheels. My guess on AWD disconnect is that it must be disconnecting the PTU - that's the only thing that would be new compared to the current system. I'm curious to know why it would be a couple thousand more for the ST. Besides the brake package, I don't see anything there to justify a couple thousand more than the Sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted June 12, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2018 at $50k+ A lot and then used car market really comes into play in my opinion Current MSRP is $45K loaded, street price is more like $40K. So I would expect $45K street price. Even at $50K you're not going to find a similar sized vehicle with similar performance. You'll have to spend at least $60K I think. And used is not a valid comparison. You could say that about anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted June 12, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2018 I'm curious to know why it would be a couple thousand more for the ST. Besides the brake package, I don't see anything there to justify a couple thousand more than the Sport. Better suspension, better brakes (standard), Ford Performance tuning. It's not just a sport with a big brake kit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Halstead Posted June 12, 2018 Report Share Posted June 12, 2018 at $50k+ A lot and then used car market really comes into play in my opinion Just feel that the Used market will be an option if paying $50k+ on a Edge https://www.ebay.com/sch/Cars-Trucks/6001/i.html?Body%2520Type=SUV&_fosrp=1&LH_BIN=1&_mPrRngCbx=1&_udlo=45%2C000&_udhi=55%2C000&_dcat=6001&Vehicle%2520Mileage=Less%2520than%252036%252C000%2520miles&_sop=3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blitz118 Posted June 12, 2018 Report Share Posted June 12, 2018 Better suspension, better brakes (standard), Ford Performance tuning. It's not just a sport with a big brake kit. What is the size of the standard ST brakes versus the Sport, and isn't the tune/HP the same as 2016-2018 MKX? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted June 12, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2018 If you don’t understand the benefits of Ford Performance tuning on the entire vehicle I’m not going to argue about it. It’s a dedicated team that does the Ford GT, Mustang GT350, Raptor, Focus RS/ST, etc. and they tune everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blitz118 Posted June 12, 2018 Report Share Posted June 12, 2018 (edited) If you dont understand the benefits of Ford Performance tuning on the entire vehicle Im not going to argue about it. Its a dedicated team that does the Ford GT, Mustang GT350, Raptor, Focus RS/ST, etc. and they tune everything.So basically you don't know, and just guessing on the standard brake ST brake size and HP/Tune? I just find it strange that Ford Performance didn't give the ST more HP/torque than the MKX, but gave it the same HP/torque. Edited June 12, 2018 by blitz118 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted June 12, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 12, 2018 They did increase the engine power and many other things. Kicking off the makeover is the installation of a 335-hp version of the twin-turbo 2.7-liter V-6, still with EcoBoost branding. With 380 lb-ft of torque, it outguns the outgoing 2.7 by 20 horsepower and 30 lb-ft. Likewise, a standard eight-speed automatic transmission replaces the six-speed automatic in the outgoing Edge Sport. Both should help propel the new Edge ST to 60 mph quicker than the 5.6 seconds we’ve recorded in the Edge Sport. All-wheel drive is standard, and an ST-tuned suspension is fitted for sharper responses and improved handling, Ford said. In addition to the hardware swaps, the Edge ST features a specific Sport mode that tightens throttle response and alters shift programming, including the ability to perform rev-matched downshifts and hold gears near the engine’s redline. Selected by depressing the center button of the new console-mounted rotary shifter, Sport mode also preselects gears for sprightly corner exits, which should enable the driver to brake hard and dive deep into a corner at speed and exit in a lower gear, keeping engine rpm in the meat of the powerband. Optionally, drivers can call out their own shifts via the wheel-mounted shift paddles. Sport mode also provides greater engine braking and a slightly more aggressive exhaust note. Also, yes, all of that describes a Ford Edge. Ford said the team that developed the ST entered the project with specific grip, braking, ride, and handling targets tailored for enthusiasts. As evidence, consider the Edge ST’s “relaxed” stability control in Sport mode, which “widens the window” regarding wheelspin and slip angle before it steps in to assist, Ford told us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
037 Posted June 13, 2018 Report Share Posted June 13, 2018 One of the biggest changes is the 8 speed transmission. As far as Sport price, I saw some models going over 50k fully loaded with base MSRP around 42k. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blitz118 Posted June 13, 2018 Report Share Posted June 13, 2018 One of the biggest changes is the 8 speed transmission. As far as Sport price, I saw some models going over 50k fully loaded with base MSRP around 42k. The 8 speed is a significant change but does not justify a few thousands more for the ST. I see few Sports advertised for 50K, but I doubt anyone who is seriously shopping for one would pay that price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted June 13, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2018 The 8 speed is for all Edges not just the ST. Again, you’re paying for the ST badge which comes with Ford Performance tuning on the engine, transmission, suspension, handling and braking. The current Sport was only tuned mildly by the normal Edge team, not Ford Performance. How much that’s worth is an individual thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
037 Posted June 13, 2018 Report Share Posted June 13, 2018 If the ST price goes super crazy a 2018 would be an excellent bargain at that point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinyin Posted June 14, 2018 Report Share Posted June 14, 2018 ST stands for Suspension Tuning. With that in mind, the Edge ST will heavily focus on handling. I would assume lower ride height with stiffer dampers and different valving than the Sport. Also 20 more HP, which is would be achieved by a different tuning map. I would also bet that the gas mileage will be worse than the Sport. Given how rapidly the Sports have depreciated in value, and that this generation of the Edge is an outgoing platform, 50K is very expensive for this car, regardless of the horsepower to dollars ratio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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