INTERAVE Posted May 17, 2009 Report Share Posted May 17, 2009 I have only 16,300 miles on my Ford Edge. I just started hearing my rear right brake start grinding. At this low mileage should I already have to start changing my brake pads?????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorporateEdge Posted May 17, 2009 Report Share Posted May 17, 2009 When is it grinding ? When you first drive it in the morning and then it stops ? All the time ? At that mileage I would be taking it in to the dealer you bought it at and ask them to inspect the brakes. It might be contamination on the pad, a bad rotor, calipers not releasing fully. Let them see what they can determine. At worst you will have a document trail if there are later problems. Make sure your work order states exactly what your problem is in YOUR words. Don't let the advisor summarize your wording to something like "brake noise-rear". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INTERAVE Posted May 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2009 When is it grinding ? When you first drive it in the morning and then it stops ? All the time ? At that mileage I would be taking it in to the dealer you bought it at and ask them to inspect the brakes. It might be contamination on the pad, a bad rotor, calipers not releasing fully. Let them see what they can determine. At worst you will have a document trail if there are later problems. Make sure your work order states exactly what your problem is in YOUR words. Don't let the advisor summarize your wording to something like "brake noise-rear". Its happening now everytime I press the brakes. With only 16000 miles on the odometer don't you think its a bit early for the brake pads to be worn down?? I am going to take it to the dealer tomorrow. I hope its under warranty. Thanks for your all your help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blockisle9 Posted May 17, 2009 Report Share Posted May 17, 2009 Its happening now everytime I press the brakes. With only 16000 miles on the odometer don't you think its a bit early for the brake pads to be worn down?? I am going to take it to the dealer tomorrow. I hope its under warranty. Thanks for your all your help! My old Explorer needed front pads every 10k miles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorporateEdge Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 Yes I would agree 16,000 miles is low. If its just one brake thats making the noise that indicates a problem with the brake such as sticking calipers etc.. I would doubt the dealer will do anything about "pads" as they are a "normal wear" item and the type of use really defines their life span. Highway miles can be a lot less abusive to the brake life versus constant stop and go city driving. The dealer has no idea what type of driving your car has been used for so they rarely cover pads as a warranty item. That said, I would ask them how its "normal" if only one pad or brake is the source of the problem. If only one pad is gone then that would seem to support the arguement that the brakes are out of adjustment, not releasing etc... which should be a warranty issue. If that pad failed due to warranty problems related to the brake while the others are fine then it should be covered. Its kind of strange the rear brakes are the source of the problem. My rear pads / rotors went at 50,000 km (32,000 miles) but you would think the fronts would go first since most of the mass is up front and they take the majority of the braking load. Let us know what the service guys find and make sure the work order is in your words not the advisors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlazedUp Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 Sounds like your proportioning valve needs to be adjusted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druck52 Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 Sounds like your proportioning valve needs to be adjusted. I'm curious, were do you come up with your information. I can't believe how many of your posts on here are just plain wrong. There is no proportioning valve on the edge, or any new ford for that mater. You really should not be giving out advise that is so wrong. He may have a bad caliper causing the problem or he may be hard on his brakes. The only way to know what is wrong is to have it inspected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blockisle9 Posted May 18, 2009 Report Share Posted May 18, 2009 Does the brakes on the edge have a Brake Pad Warning Sensor? You know that little piece of metal that rubs and squeaks while the car is moving with foot off the brake peddle when the pads are worn down. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 Does the brakes on the edge have a Brake Pad Warning Sensor? You know that little piece of metal that rubs and squeaks while the car is moving with foot off the brake peddle when the pads are worn down.Thanks No, Ford doesn't use those. And FYI - it's pedal, not peddle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldog Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 my parents have a Montego and around 20,000miles the passenger rotor rear went bad and it was replaced under warranty. after warranty was out the drivers side went bad, she has to pay to get it fixed ($280) only car they've ever owned that they didn't get 80,000miles out of pads, etc... she loves the car, but it's those little things that really annoy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 my parents have a Montego and around 20,000miles the passenger rotor rear went bad and it was replaced under warranty. after warranty was out the drivers side went bad, she has to pay to get it fixed ($280) only car they've ever owned that they didn't get 80,000miles out of pads, etc... she loves the car, but it's those little things that really annoy. Rotors don't "go bad". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorporateEdge Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 So those rotors I see hanging out beside the school smoking are just misguided then ???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ablb Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 Rotors don't "go bad". But they do wear out. A friend has to put new pads in twice a year and new rotors ever 18 months. His wife drives with one foot on the brake and the other on the gas . ab Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 But they do wear out. No, the brake pad wears out, not the rotor. The rotor gets surface defects or in rare cases can be warped which requires turning (shaving off metal) to bring it back into spec. This can only be done a couple of times before the rotor has to be replaced. What I'm saying is that rotors don't simply "wear out" like tires or brake pads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 So those rotors I see hanging out beside the school smoking are just misguided then ???? Only the warped ones........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ablb Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 (edited) No, the brake pad wears out, not the rotor. The rotor gets surface defects or in rare cases can be warped which requires turning (shaving off metal) to bring it back into spec. This can only be done a couple of times before the rotor has to be replaced. What I'm saying is that rotors don't simply "wear out" like tires or brake pads. Explain to me one more time, I'm a little slow. "This can only be done a couple of times before the rotor has to be replaced." Sounds like wore out to me. Here's a pic of the only "wore out" rotor I have. It could have been turned but then you have longer pedal travel, etc. Noisy, NOISY the previous owner rode with his foot on the brake. ab PS: Maybe we should agree to disagree "No, the brake pad wears out, not the rotor." It just needs to be replaced?? Edited May 19, 2009 by ablb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlazedUp Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 Rototrs do wear out akirb......thats why pep boys advertises "lifetime" pads because they eat the rotor not the pad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlazedUp Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 I'm curious, were do you come up with your information. I can't believe how many of your posts on here are just plain wrong. There is no proportioning valve on the edge, or any new ford for that mater. You really should not be giving out advise that is so wrong. He may have a bad caliper causing the problem or he may be hard on his brakes. The only way to know what is wrong is to have it inspected. Okay, Mr. Edsel, how do you adjust for more braking in the rear as opposed to the fronts or vice versa ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlazedUp Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 Cross-drilled rotors will eat pads quickly. I think you need a different compound of pad. Ceramics are good for cross-drilled rotors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 Rototrs do wear out akirb......thats why pep boys advertises "lifetime" pads because they eat the rotor not the pad. Where do you come up with this stuff? They give you lifetime pads but you have to pay for the labor to install them and all the other stuff they add on - that's where they make up the cost of the pads. Rotors are steel - they're not going to be "eaten" by any type of brake pad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 Cross-drilled rotors will eat pads quickly. I thought you just said that pads eat rotors. Make up your mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 Explain to me one more time, I'm a little slow."This can only be done a couple of times before the rotor has to be replaced." Sounds like wore out to me. When I hear "wore out" it implies the rotor wears down over time like brake pads or tires and that doesn't happen (except at Pep Boys apparently). But yes, I agree that rotors need to be replaced from time to time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druck52 Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 Okay, Mr. Edsel, how do you adjust for more braking in the rear as opposed to the fronts or vice versa ? On new cars you don't. You would have to add a proportioning valve yourself. It does not come with one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grady white Posted July 8, 2009 Report Share Posted July 8, 2009 I have only 16,300 miles on my Ford Edge. I just started hearing my rear right brake start grinding. At this low mileage should I already have to start changing my brake pads?????? My fronts just starting to make noise a couple of days ago. 2007. 24.6K miles. I spent 10 minutes last night reading the warranty info, and found out the pads ARE covered under warranty for the first 18K miles. So next time something goes wrong with your Edge, and you think it's premature failure, check the Warranty documents first instead of this forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hartzco Posted May 3, 2010 Report Share Posted May 3, 2010 (edited) I replaced pads twice and rotors once (all before 30,000) before I grew smart enough to have the dealer check into the fast wear. Upon inspection they found one of the calipers was freezing up causing both sides to wear dramatically faster. It seems I never learn this lesson: If it's obviously doing something wrong, have a professional check it. Especially at the warranty price of FREE. Edited May 3, 2010 by Hartzco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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