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#1 OFFLINE   AXCL

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Posted 18 November 2010 - 08:33 AM

I'm having an issue very similar to another post, but its older and for an 08' I believe, so I've started a new thread in here as I'm assuming it would be a completely different transmission for the 2011 3.7L.

This issue is really hard rough shifts at low speed/rpm in 1/2/3rd. As the other poster described it, the truck jerks hard almost like someone bumped into you. This can't be good on the tranny. I've already reported it to my dealer and will be bringing the Edge in next week for its first service. Just wondering if anyone else with an 2011 Edge Sport has noticed this and if they've managed to get it rectified.

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Posted 18 November 2010 - 09:29 AM

I'm having an issue very similar to another post, but its older and for an 08' I believe, so I've started a new thread in here as I'm assuming it would be a completely different transmission for the 2011 3.7L.

This issue is really hard rough shifts at low speed/rpm in 1/2/3rd. As the other poster described it, the truck jerks hard almost like someone bumped into you. This can't be good on the tranny. I've already reported it to my dealer and will be bringing the Edge in next week for its first service. Just wondering if anyone else with an 2011 Edge Sport has noticed this and if they've managed to get it rectified.

Thanks!

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I believe all Edges use the same 6F50 transmission including the sport.

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Posted 19 November 2010 - 08:38 AM

I believe all Edges use the same 6F50 transmission including the sport.



Thanks Akirby! I've used your info to do some research and I think you're right.

Even with the same model transmission, would the 3.7L have the same programming? I think that is really what it comes down to.

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Posted 20 November 2010 - 10:29 AM

I would contact the dealer ASAP.

My 2008 would hunt for a split second then slam into a gear, it was terrible, but dealer could not reproduce it so they said it didn't exist. It was very frustrating, they claimed they never heard anything like it, and I knew I wasnt the only one having the problem. When I printed others posts, they said it was much the same as "one person crying the blues and another being sympathetic and saying the same thing!!!!"

New 2011 trans is so smooth I cant believe the difference. Something is not quite right if you're new 11 is having this problem.

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Posted 22 November 2010 - 02:48 PM

I would contact the dealer ASAP.

My 2008 would hunt for a split second then slam into a gear, it was terrible, but dealer could not reproduce it so they said it didn't exist. It was very frustrating, they claimed they never heard anything like it, and I knew I wasnt the only one having the problem. When I printed others posts, they said it was much the same as "one person crying the blues and another being sympathetic and saying the same thing!!!!"

New 2011 trans is so smooth I cant believe the difference. Something is not quite right if you're new 11 is having this problem.


I'm afraid it might be the same scenario as you. I've just rolled 5000KM and its only happened to me 5-6 times, so I'm certainly not going to give my Edge to them to put 1000KM's on it before they find the issue. It's going in on Thursday, so I'll be bringing it up then. I'm hoping it is just early software for that tranny/engine combo and it will be a simple flash, but perhaps its too new for them to have enough people report it for an update to be created :sos:

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Posted 01 March 2011 - 10:06 PM

I'm afraid it might be the same scenario as you. I've just rolled 5000KM and its only happened to me 5-6 times, so I'm certainly not going to give my Edge to them to put 1000KM's on it before they find the issue. It's going in on Thursday, so I'll be bringing it up then. I'm hoping it is just early software for that tranny/engine combo and it will be a simple flash, but perhaps its too new for them to have enough people report it for an update to be created :sos:


Update on this???

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Posted 05 March 2011 - 01:31 AM

In 6 months of driving my 2011 MKX, I've experienced very abrupt shifts 3 times, twice while accelerating slowly from a stop and once while already moving slowly. Strong enough to really jerk me. The dealer attributes it to a cold transmission. True, the transmission would have been fairly cold at the time but why only those 3 times?

Got to get around to buying that extended warranty...

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#8 OFFLINE   AXCL

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Posted 14 March 2011 - 08:20 AM

In 6 months of driving my 2011 MKX, I've experienced very abrupt shifts 3 times, twice while accelerating slowly from a stop and once while already moving slowly. Strong enough to really jerk me. The dealer attributes it to a cold transmission. True, the transmission would have been fairly cold at the time but why only those 3 times?

Got to get around to buying that extended warranty...



I'm glad I got the extended warranty right off the bat! For me it certainly isn't related to a cold transmission, its happened 30min+ into driving. I've had it a lot more then 3 times, but likely only 3-4 really kicked. I've felt a few softer ones that I know if I was accelerating a bit more it would have been more harsh. I've only noticed the issue in heavy traffic.

There are some other updates in the 2011 Edge/MKX section.

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Posted 30 May 2011 - 06:49 PM

I have had my 11 edge sport since January and in the past couple weeks I just started to notice the rough shifts at low speeds also. If is definitly not a cold transmission since I was out and about for over a hour the times I noticed it happening. I will be taking to dealer for an oil change soon and will ask them to look at it.

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 01:47 PM

I have had my 11 edge sport since January and in the past couple weeks I just started to notice the rough shifts at low speeds also. If is definitly not a cold transmission since I was out and about for over a hour the times I noticed it happening. I will be taking to dealer for an oil change soon and will ask them to look at it.


Have you been doing a lot more heavy traffic driving lately? If you're issue is the same as mine, it a problem with a solenoid delay, that appears to happen when traveling slow. (in traffic) I never get it when I'm doing normal driving. I had my mapping programming wiped which worked for a while, but its back now. It seems that its learning the wrong way to shift during those specific scenarios.

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Posted 28 July 2011 - 03:55 PM

I have had my 2011 sport AWD since april and have noticed lazy shifts from time to time. I figured it was just learning or the fact that i was comming from a CVT car after 5 years and forgot how it feels when an auto shifts.... although my F250 diesel shifts FAR smoother. Today driving back to work after my lunch break i was doing around 40-45mph and BOOOOOOM! It felt like i ran over a hand grenade. I was too startled to even notice if the engine stumbled or if i lost power to the wheels. I seriously thought something exploded in my car. Even pedestrians walking on the sides of the roads stopped and looked from 30' away. I coasted down to around 20mph and regained my composure while doing a quick check in the car, testing my brakes and power steering showed all systems were ok. The car actually drove fine back to work the rest of the way. After work i took it around town with the radio off to listen for anything odd. Little whine noises came and went and subtle crunching and clicking from time to time, but i realized that i had never actually just listened to the car with the radio off and windows down. It drove and shifted fine though. I have an appointment on 8/6/11 for my complimentary oil change and i plan to bring a print out of TSB 11-56-6 with me. Ill see if i can get one of them to test drive it.

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Posted 08 November 2011 - 10:27 PM

I currently have 17,500kms on my '11 sport and it has been to the dealership 4 times in less than a year. I purchased it last October and really liked it. The first 3 "visits" were related to the navigation system not working, part of the radio stations didn't show up, phones would not connect for handsfree use, etc. The most recent "visit" to the dealership was a transmission issue. After the vehicle was warmed up and had been driving for 15 minutes at different speeds, :censored: hit the fan. I was going up a small incline hill and the vehicle upshifted from a lower gear (automatic mode) and a loud thud. It felt like i ran over top of something big in the middle of the road. I have owned over a dozen vehicles and have never experienced anything close to this. It lunged the vehicle forward and I didn't know what to think. I drove it to the dealership, no other noise or issues and told them. One salesman said this is a common problem in the new ford trucks with 6 speed transmissions. If this is a common problem, my Edge is for sale tonight. After looking at the vehicle, the problem they proclaim was a internal seal on the PTU. They replaced it, test drove the vehicle and cleared it. Well, on the way home from picking it up it made another clunky shift when it downshifted after a corner. That took a total of 5 minutes to have it happen again. Will keep everyone posted... GRRRRRRRR :rant2:

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Posted 10 November 2011 - 09:30 AM

I currently have 17,500kms on my '11 sport and it has been to the dealership 4 times in less than a year. I purchased it last October and really liked it. The first 3 "visits" were related to the navigation system not working, part of the radio stations didn't show up, phones would not connect for handsfree use, etc. The most recent "visit" to the dealership was a transmission issue. After the vehicle was warmed up and had been driving for 15 minutes at different speeds, :censored: hit the fan. I was going up a small incline hill and the vehicle upshifted from a lower gear (automatic mode) and a loud thud. It felt like i ran over top of something big in the middle of the road. I have owned over a dozen vehicles and have never experienced anything close to this. It lunged the vehicle forward and I didn't know what to think. I drove it to the dealership, no other noise or issues and told them. One salesman said this is a common problem in the new ford trucks with 6 speed transmissions. If this is a common problem, my Edge is for sale tonight. After looking at the vehicle, the problem they proclaim was a internal seal on the PTU. They replaced it, test drove the vehicle and cleared it. Well, on the way home from picking it up it made another clunky shift when it downshifted after a corner. That took a total of 5 minutes to have it happen again. Will keep everyone posted... GRRRRRRRR :rant2:



There is a new(ish) TSB for this, its a lot more then the PTU seal. Your dealer should have known about this one. It involves physical updates to your tranny and a software update. It did a lot for me, but I'm still not 100% happy, although it is MUCH better!

This tread has a lot more details.

Tranny TSB

Edited by AXCL, 10 November 2011 - 09:35 AM.


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Posted 22 January 2015 - 04:11 PM

Resurrecting somewhat of an old thread here but I get this exact same problem and I'm wondering if anyone has managed to resolve it. I have a 2008 Ford Edge with 96,000 km on it. It's in immaculate condition.
 
When I slow down to about 10 km per hour from about 30 to 50 km per hour and then step on the gas to speed up again right away, I get a "jerk' or as it is referred to here, a "hard shift" (while accelerating slowly from already moving fairly slowly). It is hard enough to move me in my seat which is why I think this is also a safety issue aside from a mechanical one. I've looked at many other threads about this, seems like LOTS of people with all different years of Ford Edges and even the MKX have this problem. My vehicle has done this from the day we bought it.
 
It doesn't happen all the time but when it does, it is so annoying. If it's something as simple (?) as replacing the transmission sensors (as someone noted in one of the threads here in this forum) as opposed to replacing the whole transmission, I could live with that. I finally called Ford Canada today about this issue and they have "no information" available about this problem which is really interesting because it seems to be so widespread. They also told me that they do not monitor the Internet as there could be "Ford haters" in these forums! I'd say most of the people here are Ford LOVERS. I don't expect them to monitor the Internet but hello... do we have a problem here or what? I see no TSB about this anywhere, including the Ford Canada site.


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Posted 22 January 2015 - 05:26 PM

There is a TSB or two that might be relevant to the issue at hand:

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HARSH DRIVELINE CLUNK FELT AT LOW SPEED - BELOW 10 MPH - STOP AND GO DRIVING ON TIP IN - PERCEIVED HARSH 1-2 UPSHIFT OR 2-1 DOWNSHIFT

TSBID: 146255 Mfg Num: 08-23-16 Issue Date: 2008-11-24

HARSH DRIVELINE CLUNK FELT AT LOW SPEED - BELOW 10 MPH - STOP AND GO DRIVING ON TIP IN - (COULD BE PERCEIVED AS A HARSH 1-2 UPSHIFT OR 2-1 DOWNSHIFT) - REVISED

TSBID: 147402 Mfg Num: 08-26-13 Issue Date: 2009-01-05

6F50/6F55 TRANSMISSION-SLIP/NEUTRAL OUT, 5TH GEAR START FROM STOP, ELECTRONIC PRNDL ERROR, BACKUP CAMERA IN D-BUILT 3/13/2009-6/30/2010

TSBID: 171188 Mfg Num: 10-21-2 Issue Date: 2010-10-18 

6F50/6F55 TRANSMISSION - SLUGGISH ACCELERATION FROM 0-8 KM\H (0-5 MPH) FOLLOWED BY A HARSH BUMP OR A SLIP ON TAKE-OFF FOLLOWED BY A BUMP - BUILT ON OR BEFORE 4/15/2011

TSBID: 176597 Mfg Num: 11-12-10 Issue Date: 2011-12-19 

6F50/6F55 TRANSMISSION - SLIP/NEUTRAL OUT - 5TH GEAR START FROM STOP - BACKUP CAMERA ON IN DRIVE - BUILT 3/13/2009-6/30/2010

TSBID: 180543 Mfg Num: 13-5-27 Issue Date: 2013-05-27


Edited by WWWPerfA_ZN0W, 22 January 2015 - 05:28 PM.


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Posted 23 January 2015 - 11:50 AM

Thank you !



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Posted 26 January 2015 - 04:24 PM

If you have not replaced the rear output speed sensor yet.   You might want to start saving up some money for that repair.






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