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  1. So my wife and I had a few mis-starts with the remote start after adding an authentic RS key.

    1. Press [LOCK] button on IKE

    2. then double press [2X] button

    the parking lights would double flash and it would not remote start.  I found the pin-point troubleshooting guide in the 2014 factory service manual.   For those that are looking, it is under Engine starting not RKE.


    GROUP 3  - SECTION 303-06: Starting System


    Pin Point F is for remote start.  I attached a PDF that contains only pinpoint F and separate PDF of DTC chart if it is needed  Again, PinPoint test F is consolidated and just pertains to remote start. PM me if anyone needs the entire section.


    As soon as I had the troubleshooting tests in my hand, the remote start worked and I had nothing to test.  So, Murphy's law for now.   I have it ready in case it fails again.




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  2. I can confirm, the keys included in my kit are my problem with range and intermittent remote starts.   The generic keys are not good.


    I replaced it with this from ebay and works like it should.


    Authentic rs key from ebay. I paid $110 after shipping.



    I spent $277 between the kit with bad keys and one good key. I would been better off buying the $150 kit from fairway.

  3. I'm sorry that the major hardware stores gave you such a hard time.   I usually get a little push back as well.   When I tell them "it's OK to say no to transponder key" they look at me strange.  I just tell them I have a way to program and I'm not worried about it.  I have never left with an uncut. Transponder.   I just left Lowes and said to the kid , "scan your bar code for blank #24, but insert my key at the time of cutting "

    I typically offer to pay for the cut on my own key and after that they say, "no problem and, don't worry about it"


  4. Update.  The Generic kit that I got earlier this year is having an issue.  This is the kit that I bought and would not recommend it.



    The generic keys that came in the kit seem to have defective RS buttons after a few months of use.   I would recommend a kit with better aftermarket keys or the official $150 - $300 kits from ford. 

    I am having difficulty finding the keys alone.  As stated in the first post of this thread; 164-R8067 is a supplier part number.   When I search for that i get this link below.


    They seem to have official remote start IKT keys and ilco aftermarket keys

    - Official ikt Price: $139.95

    - Illco Price: $39.95



    Official Ford kit.

    $150 https://www.fairwayfordparts.net/p-1-key-remote-start-fits-f150-super-duty-edge-and-flex-164r8067da8z15603a

    $300 https://accessories.ford.com/products/100-series-plug-n-play-4-button-remote-start-system-1


  5. On 3/28/2021 at 8:44 AM, thesavo said:

     I gew up with my parents owning these

    1990 Econoline 150 conversion van

    1994 continental 

    1998 Town car

    2004 Town car


    My own Fords

    1998 Explorer sport - trans died

    2003 Taurus SES ax4s - trans died

    2008 Mariner - still running at 200,400miles

    2014 Edge SEL - inhereted


    Now my wife wants to add a 2022 bronco 4 door.

    I ordered a Bronco Sport in March and took delivery on June 23.  I traded In the mariner at 20200.4 miles.


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  6. HI All.  I have read though some of the other discussion on hood struts . Some of these threads are years old and I am curios if anyone is having rust issues with these in the northerns states.   I have a 2014 that I plan to keep and would like to add them.    I plan on getting a bolt-on set for my Bronco Sport.  However the model for the Ford Edge require Drilling. 


    Does anyone have a status update for their installs of these kits?

  7. So. I called etrailer.  The model they make for SPORT is not compatible with SEL.

    They even added it to the faq.





    Now, I did find that Ford offers a oem hitch on the accessories site.   It also claims no drilling and not sport compatible.   So I may have found what I was looking for.




    I'm looking for install directions.

    Part number BT4Z-19D520-A

  8. On 12/19/2020 at 3:26 PM, onyxbfly said:

    If you plan on keeping your edge for an extended period of time. I would be re-missed if I didn't suggest going with the 8" SYNC3 conversion.


    @TXFRDOwner Might just have all the parts you need in stock. Drop him a line and inquire. I have purchased 5 conversion kits from and haven't any issues to date.  Good Luck.

    Curious.  I have a 2014 with sync2.  How can this be achieved?  I have searched and not found a good guide yet.

  9. OK, This worked. I can confirm you can install ford a Ford Plug n Play remote start kit in a 2014 ford Edge SEL w/o power liftgate. These Kits are sold for F150, and super-duty trucks.   Watch any truck install video and it give you an idea.  The pictures from another post show where the target module is behind the driver's rear quarter trim panel.  Use care when pulling it out.  I did not take a picture, but you don;t have to rip the entire panel out.  Just pull it back near the top of the seat belt.  The TPM module is mounted to the Trim panel. 


    Purchased parts

    - BT4Z-19G366-A Hood Switch

    - BC3Z-19G364-A Remote start kit.  2 (generic) keys, antenna, and RF cable.


    I did not have to mess with As-Built codes as it had "presets" ready to go for BdyCM and IPC module.


    IPC changes were expected from previous posts.  With all the Remote options added, just one row  of AS-built changed.

    BdyCM changed as expected, however, it did change block 57.   I compared exports before, after and then compared them with win-merge.   I forget to take screenshots of block 57 in forscan.  


    Since the Keys were clones, the Key Transponder had to be programmed separately from the remote built in to the key had.  For the remote part, I had to program with 8 key cycles then press buttons on the remote.   For some reason, generic keys are just a transponder pill and and remote fob kluged together


    The Clone keys have a 2x button, but it takes 3 presses after lock to start the car remotely.  I am not sure why, but it does guarantee a start every time.






    Here are links to amazon items that I ordered.



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  10. My key settings is really to see how many programmed keys there are.    I'll find a video of the menu for you.

    I'm still hazy on the parts needed.  I updated another thread asking to confirm parts.


    You should pull the driver rear quarter trim panel.  That will show you if you have the remote start antenna.


    You can also check your Vin with a free account at etis.ford.com.



    You can pull your as built config from the factory wit Motorcraftservice.com/asbuilt

  11. It's odd that your key would have a 2x start button and not have remote start.

    It could be that the key you have is all that was available to the dealer or the previous owner when a key copy was made.  


    You can sign up for an account with the Ford site below and check if you had remote start from the factory with your Vin.




    Also, how many keys do you have now and have you lost any?

    You can check the number of programmed keys in the cluster (IPC).  Look for my key if it is an activated feature, it will tell you how many  total keys, admin keys there are and how many "mykey" keys.


    Mykey is in the cluster settings, be sure not to "demote" your only key to a mykey.

    If there are more keys than you have, it would be likely, it was the only keyblank available. It would also be a diy programming or an inexperienced

    Lock Smith as a dealer would have erased other lost keys.


    If remote start is as plug n play as we are lead to belive, you need the following done.


    - Hood pin switch on the driver side.

    - working key with a 2x button that you already have.

    - a bar type antenna behind the quarter panel on the driver side.

    - (lastly)  remote start enabled in your body control module.


    You can check the body control info with a windows laptop, obd reader like obd MX and a free copy of forscan for windows.

    This is in the bdy as built codes.   Check out the quarter panel first.

    Link: 2011 Ford Edge 200 Series Remote Start DIY (BB5Z-19G364-C)  QUARTER PANEL Removal instructions. The remote start setup is over complicated 



    Screenshot_20210426-055215_Adobe Acrobat.jpg

  12. I have a 2014 SEL with a non power lift gate.  I have re read the thread and I summarize i need the following.  Would a forum adult please check my work? I plan to do all the work and not need a Dealership trip and Rotunda IDS.  I have seen talk about needing a VSS module or an RMST module.  IS that still a requirement on 2014 as i heard it was just Add the bar antenna, enable in IDS, and cut/program keys.   I have no requirement for Cellular remote access.  I only want to remote Start with IKT.  I have no want for another fob to hang off my keys. 


    - Hood Pin Switch - BT4Z-19G366-A.  Very helpful pictures provided in another thread by @j3st3r

    - series 100 w/1 key - BC3Z-19G364-A

    - Enable Remote Start Function - As-Built Code - Taking codes from Explorer Forum, and @Tim Mallon here on Edge Forum


    BCM - Suggested
    726-19-01 0047 = remote start disabled
    726-19-01 0148 = remote start enabled


    - Enable Cluster Remote Start Climate options - TBD


    IPC remote start options - Suggested
    720-01-03 C8F3 = without climate seats or wheel(Base model and Interceptor. Possibly some XLT models)
    720-01-03 F823 = without heated steering wheel With climate controlled seats
    720-01-03 FC27 = with heated steering wheel With climate controlled seats

    My AsBuilt w/o Remote Start - motorcraft.com/asbuilt

    BCM - 726-19-01      0047

    IPC     720-01-03      002B


    - PATS Key Programming - ForScan service procedure



    References found.

    Link: 2011 Ford Edge 200 Series Remote Start DIY (BB5Z-19G364-C)  QUARTER PANEL Removal instructions

    Link 2011 Ford Edge 200 Series Remote Start DIY (BB5Z-19G364-C) Hood switch Installation Instructions 

    Link:  Edge Form - Adding Remote Access to 2013 edge xlt

    Link: DA8Z-19G364-A Remote Start

    Link Ford Edge Forum - Comprehensive List of Possible Forscan Mods

    Link: 2013 Edge - Remote Start Kit - 100 Series Plug n Play (BC3Z19G364A) installation & Activation

    Link: Explorer Forum - Remote Start



    I am guessing that BC3Z-19G364-A is Kit that combines the following parts from above

    - DA8Z-19G364-A 5 button keys only. $241.95

    - DA8Z-15603-A Antenna Kit. $25.30


    Which IKT;s Should i Get?    MY OEM keys are 3 button and My 2014 SEL has w/o power lift gate.  I have programmed late 90;s fobs to it and they have trunk release buttons, but they do not release the liftgate for manual opening.   On my Mariner it releases the liftglass. Since the ford Edge has no lift glass; is the double press trunk button able to be enabled for vehicles w.o power liftgate?   I think I answered my own question, but is the trunk button only meant to power liftgate.  Since I have no plan to add power liftgate, would I be best off with 4-button remote start?



    Update: 4/28

    I'm going to order the following and see how it goes.

    - antenna module with rf cable and 2 keys

    - a hood pin switch


    I feel the RMST module may not be required.


    Update:5/3 .  The kit arrives on Tuesday. I'm anxiously waiting.  I'll only cut one of the keys for now; as the primary driver is the one that cares for this feature.

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  13. She is quite happy with it, and the seat heater still does its job.  I like the front pocket.   I'm going to order a second one for the passenger.   There is even a drilled hole in the seat Frame for the attchement hook.  She's happy and so am I.

  14. I have a 2014 Edge.  In the factory configuration for 2nd Generation Edge, 5th Gen Explorer and PIU; the owners guide states the interior lights (dome and map) come on with illuminated Entry and Illuminated Exit.  
    Enabling Dark Car does disable that functionality.   It's pretty much the same as the first through fourth Generation Explorer with analog cluster illumination dial in the full down position all the time. This is in manual section labeled Panel dimmer Control in the owners guide going back to 1998. Though it may have existed in 1991-1997, it isn't documented.
    Rolling the dimmer down to the lowest setting defeats the dome and interior lights from coming on with Door ajar.  In the intervening years, this has changed to a dome override on button as apposed to a Dial that at the apex in either direction will override the dome on and defeat the dome off.

    I also enabled "Dark Car" in my Ford Edge so I don't have the dome light or interior lights come on when I open the door.  Though I could compare the As-built codes before and after, I have not.  So I don't know what changes are made with this setting in forscan. i do plan to make that comparison.
    With Dark Car enabled, I can override by pressing the Dome override button and the interior lights come on and pressing a second time (defeats) turns the dome and map lights off.  Is there an as-built change that will, enable Dome defeat but in a way where the dome comes on with Door Ajar like factory, but pressing the button once, defeats the dome, like it does with the 2nd press with Dark Car enabled.?

  15. No. We have tried al different leather cleaners.  Nothing seems to prevent legs from sticking to the leather on a hot day.   I'd be happy to do a cloth swap.


    We only need a decent butt-cushion cover that doesn't look horrible. 


    Any thought?


    I tried salvage, but nothing newer than 2010 is there.



    Tasca parts shows that 2012 - 2014 are compatible.  Would a 2008 or 2010 cloth cover work? 



    Has anyone changed OEM seat covers?

  16. So i started looking for other device mounting options for the Edge.  I have installed a panavise InDash mount.  however it being on the right of the touchscreen is a bit farther than other vehicles.

    I found that pro clip, as previously discussed here mounts above the ignition cylinder.    I am ready to order that and a vertical extension plate get it out from behind the wiper stalk.   Then I found that A-Tach mounts makes  one for 2007-2010 and 2015-current.

    There is a gap in the middle; so I reached out to customer service asking why that was the case.  

    The wrote back with the following.





    Hello Will,

    Thank you for contacting us with your interest on our A-Tach Mounts.

    Unfortunately, at this time, we do not offer a mount for the 2011 - 2014 Ford Edge. We are trying to offer as many mounts as we can design but we understand it might be a little difficult to find and get into a vehicle once it is no longer being sold at the dealerships as new. This particular Ford Edge model has been exceptionally difficult to find. We are not located in a large metro area but, before replying we checked the local used car dealerships and did find a 2013 Edge at a dealership we have not worked with yet. We can’t promise anything but will do what we can to design a mount that will work for your vehicle. We want to be able to offer a mount for this vehicle and will send you a message as soon as we are able to get into the vehicle to let you know a mount will be coming soon.

    We hope this information helps and invite you to contact us with any further questions.

    The A-Tach Team




    So I guess if you want something other than proclip or Panavise for 2011-14, send them an e-mail and show them there is some interest still.

  17.  I gew up with my parents owning these

    1990 Econoline 150 conversion van

    1994 continental 

    1998 Town car

    2004 Town car


    My own Fords

    1998 Explorer sport - trans died

    2003 Taurus SES ax4s - trans died

    2008 Mariner - still running at 200,400miles

    2014 Edge SEL - inhereted


    Now my wife wants to add a 2022 bronco 4 door.

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