jmr061 Posted December 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 Ok it is time to spill the beans...I spent about 12 hours today messing with this stuff today. Ford had ditched V1.1 a couple weeks ago on the dealer side but it was back this morning after the weekly Saturday night downtime. I decided to check different vehicle lines and found that some 16 Lincoln's with V1 were eligible for V2.2 upgrade on the dealer side. I did "legitimate" dealer upgrades on the bench to one nav and one non-nav unit. The NAV unit went flawless. A beautiful upgrade. I saved the USB upgrade for this. Then I did the Non-Nav. Failure....it ran out of "space" for the update. For those that don't know the non-nav units have an 8MB daughter board inside and the NAV units have 32 MB daughter boards in them. So figuring that the update applications and existing applications together were taking up too much room I split the non-nav update in half. Messy but it gets the job done. I tested this on 3 bench units successfully. The non-nav update will only work on 16 models (V1 and 1.1). It fails on 17s that came with V2.0. I suspect the memory structure is different in the 17 non navs than the 16 non navs. I will probably take one apart and see what size is on the daughter board. The nav update works on 16 and 17 nav units (1.0,1.1,2.0,2.1). BTW I checked the owner site for those same Lincolns and no dice on a download there. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWPerfA_ZN0W Posted December 12, 2016 Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 Can the memory be upgraded on the non-nav units? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tpm419419 Posted December 12, 2016 Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 Sounds very close, thanks. Any change in 2.2 compared to 2.0 or 1.0? Besides CarPlay / AA? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Heath Jr Posted December 12, 2016 Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 THANKS for the work on this! Guys, I will have it installed today. JMR and I got crossed on what file I needed, so downloading the file I actually need right now. With his permission, I will also post it on a faster download location and publish. I have NAV. But since I already downloaded the Non-Nav, I can put it in a few locations for download that will be faster. I have options, personal server, Amazon, and Google. Have practically unlimited space on all. I will see if I notice any non AA/CP changes. I have the USB hub on order. Should have it later this week, hopefully get it installed this weekend so I can play with CP. Ok it is time to spill the beans...I spent about 12 hours today messing with this stuff today.Ford had ditched V1.1 a couple weeks ago on the dealer side but it was back this morning after the weekly Saturday night downtime. I decided to check different vehicle lines and found that some 16 Lincoln's with V1 were eligible for V2.2 upgrade on the dealer side. I did "legitimate" dealer upgrades on the bench to one nav and one non-nav unit. The NAV unit went flawless. A beautiful upgrade. I saved the USB upgrade for this.Then I did the Non-Nav. Failure....it ran out of "space" for the update. For those that don't know the non-nav units have an 8MB daughter board inside and the NAV units have 32 MB daughter boards in them. So figuring that the update applications and existing applications together were taking up too much room I split the non-nav update in half. Messy but it gets the job done. I tested this on 3 bench units successfully.The non-nav update will only work on 16 models (V1 and 1.1). It fails on 17s that came with V2.0. I suspect the memory structure is different in the 17 non navs than the 16 non navs. I will probably take one apart and see what size is on the daughter board.The nav update works on 16 and 17 nav units (1.0,1.1,2.0,2.1).BTW I checked the owner site for those same Lincolns and no dice on a download there. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tpm419419 Posted December 12, 2016 Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 Sounds great guys I would like to grab the file for nav if possible and when ready. I'll give Ford till the end of the month before installing it. This is actually more important for those without Nav so hopefully that can get worked out Thanks again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Heath Jr Posted December 12, 2016 Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 First impressions, voice command is more responsive and the voice has changed. It doesn't go on and on any more when you mess up the command. Update went great. Put the drive in when I was leaving work, because I have a 30 minute commute. About 20-25 in said it was done. Next Car restart in the driveway it finished. Took a bit for it to load the Map after, then all good. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foghelmut Posted December 12, 2016 Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 That's one thing I hate about the voice commands - I could park the car and do it by hand by the time it gets done talking to me about all of the options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted December 12, 2016 Report Share Posted December 12, 2016 You can hit the voice button again to skip the commentary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ari Gold Posted December 13, 2016 Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 I wanted to get something written up for those Edge Owners to have some quick reference to. SYNC 3 Version 1.0 - Initial Release Version - Does not contain Android Auto/CarPlay Version 1.1 - Latest Update (as of 10/5/2016) for Version 1 to correct minor bug issues (only available via dealer upgrade - I have this available but it is a 500+gb download) 11/21/16 V1.1 has been removed from the dealer side. I don't know the specific reason but speculate it is due to a replacement upgrade being released soon Version 2.0 - Only available on late build models of the 2016 Edge (roughly July 2016). Version 2 does contain Android Auto (fully functional) and CarPlay (non functional) Version 1 cannot be upgraded to version 2 at this time. The software release has not been made available from Ford. Ford is currently saying it will be ready by the end of 2016. For those that have a 2016 Ford Edge with V2.0 in it, the reason CarPlay does not work is because a CarPlay compliant USB hub is not installed in the vehicle. I have found that part # GJ7Z-19A387-B (part for 2017 MKC) is a CarPlay compliant USB hub that is a direct fit into the 2016 Edge. The backlighting is white instead of blue. Other USB hubs of the same design will likely work but at this time this is the only hub that has been tested to my knowledge and I can say gives the V2.0 SYNC 3 CarPlay. After some experimenting, the hub can be removed with a basic plastic trim tool without having to take anything else apart. Remove the rubber mat in the bin where the USB hub is and then take a thin plastic pry tool and slide it under the top or bottom and give it a little twist to get that side to pop out and then do the other end. You may need to hold the already released side out as it will want to pop back in. Some additional information: You can replace the APIM in your Edge if it has V1 with one that has V2. They are different hardware part number. A replacement has to be setup and programmed for your specific vehicle. This does work as I have done it. In theory those with 2015 Edges that have MFT/SYNC2 should be able to "fairly easily" upgrade to SYNC 3. This will require a screen and apim replacement at minimum. Not a cheap retrofit and it would be based totally on personal preference. Once Ford officially releases the V2.0 update for the V1 owners I am sure we will learn the official part # for the Edge USB hub that is CarPlay compliant. Just be forewarned Ford has put out information that due to the hardware upgrade it will be a dealer visit upgrade only. I certainly hope they change their stance on that. Until Ford makes the announcement it is just guessing as to what the official route of upgrade will be. If further information pertaining to this topic is received I will attempt to update this original thread. I would like to ask that opinions about Apple versus Android be kept out of this and the keep the topic on task. Thanks Great post! My 16 Edge (build date of 7/11) came with v2.0 installed so I ordered part HC3Z-19A387-B and CarPlay works great! My understanding is the only difference between the two is the color of the LED around the USB port. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t0lkman Posted December 13, 2016 Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 is it easy to install HC3Z-19A387-B? Does anybody have youtube video ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidceder Posted December 13, 2016 Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 Is it still Fords plan to put this out over the air? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tpm419419 Posted December 13, 2016 Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 I'm only guessing but I would say dealer install. Some MyFord Touch upgrades were done with a USB drive being mailed to the customer . Later you were able to copy updates from the Ford site onto USB thumb drives Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted December 13, 2016 Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 I assume the software will be downloadable. The question is whether the usb hub requires dealer installation or if they'll make it an official DIY kit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmr061 Posted December 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 I will be posting a dropbox link within the hour for those with Navigation models to upgrade to V2.2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmr061 Posted December 13, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 THIS UPGRADE IS FOR NORTH AMERICAN 2016 FORD/LINCOLN MODELS WITH SYNC3 V1.0 OR V 1.1 FACTORY NAVIGATION ONLY. THIS WILL UPGRADE FROM VERSIONS 1.0/1.1 TO VERSION 2.2 THIS IS USED AT YOUR OWN RISK AND YOU TAKE ALL RESPONSIBILITY FOR ITS USE NAVIGATION MAPS DO NOT GET UPGRADED WITH THIS UPDATE This has been tested on 2016 F150, Edge and Mustang along with Lincoln MKC. A new HUB is ONLY required if you want to use CarPlay. It is not required to install the update. ANYONE THAT HAS A CONVERSION THAT USES THE MFT/SYNC2 USB SHOULD NOT UPDATE AS THIS WILL RENDER YOUR USB USELESS AND YOU WILL NEED A NEWER SYNC3 USB HUB https://www.dropbox.com/s/yha31nhklawivja/SYNC3%20NAV%20V1%20TO%20V22.zip?dl=0 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Ian Briody Posted December 13, 2016 Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 THIS UPGRADE IS FOR NORTH AMERICAN 2016 FORD/LINCOLN MODELS WITH SYNC3 V1.0 OR V 1.1 FACTORY NAVIGATION ONLY. THIS WILL UPGRADE FROM VERSIONS 1.0/1.1 TO VERSION 2.2 THIS IS USED AT YOUR OWN RISK AND YOU TAKE ALL RESPONSIBILITY FOR ITS USE NAVIGATION MAPS DO NOT GET UPGRADED WITH THIS UPDATE This has been tested on 2016 F150, Edge and Mustang along with Lincoln MKC. A new HUB is ONLY required if you want to use CarPlay. It is not required to install the update. ANYONE THAT HAS A CONVERSION THAT USES THE MFT/SYNC2 USB SHOULD NOT UPDATE AS THIS WILL RENDER YOUR USB USELESS AND YOU WILL NEED A NEWER SYNC3 USB HUB https://www.dropbox.com/s/yha31nhklawivja/SYNC3%20NAV%20V1%20TO%20V22.zip?dl=0 Anyone installed this yet? Jason I have a 2016 Mustang. Have you had any specific feedback from 2016 Mustang owners? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjas24 Posted December 14, 2016 Report Share Posted December 14, 2016 (edited) I went to download the file and it looks like jmr061's link went down due to too much activity. Anyone have a mirror? I can mirror it to google drive if I get the file. Edited December 14, 2016 by gjas24 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t0lkman Posted December 14, 2016 Report Share Posted December 14, 2016 link is not working, can somebody re-upload it to another hosting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmr061 Posted December 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2016 (edited) Mirror Sites Mirror (M.A.S.E.): https://uploadfiles.io/f506a Mirror (didiasku): http://www.didiasku.com/ford/v22NAV.zip Mirror (HizliBullet): https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B5V5mRF...sp=sharing Mirror (jacknifetoaswan): https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwBEBdp...sp=sharing --------------------------- Checksum information --------------------------- Name: SYNC3 NAV V1 TO V22.zip Size: 1728118492 bytes (1648 MB) SHA1: 38C41ECD34D85F4B69DCCAF0505CFA580A456E78 SHA256: 5C725E1E261CA59E6E643D3D4CDE1677D41F2A559448F81499 E342954C351B49 CRC32: 4F7B9C95 CRC64: 9451E65177117035 Edited December 14, 2016 by jmr061 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjas24 Posted December 14, 2016 Report Share Posted December 14, 2016 I also put up a mirror of the file. https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxvOGiSSHrCKczVtWGRYamdIczQ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Heath Jr Posted December 14, 2016 Report Share Posted December 14, 2016 (edited) One more download link! Sorry for going dark after initial testing. This is what I have been dealing with the last 24: Wife had somebody turn left in her path on the way home from work. Her Expy did it's job, and she walked away just sore. Couldn't be more thankful Ford built a safe Vehicle! She was doing 45. Think Ford tweaked the speed on the recent update, and response is good. The Text receive screen is different, and has less options. Edited December 14, 2016 by Ray Heath Jr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmr061 Posted December 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2016 https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Bxlap1Uv4Q55WGhhTU1MUXFKeU0 One more download link! Sorry for going dark after initial testing. This is what I have been dealing with the last 24: IMG_6425.JPG IMG_6412.JPG IMG_6422.JPG Wife had somebody turn left in her path on the way home from work. Her Expy did it's job, and she walked away just sore. Couldn't be more thankful Ford built a safe Vehicle! She was doing 45. Think Ford tweaked the speed on the recent update, and response is good. The Text receive screen is different, and has less options. Do not give out the test load...i added instructions and such right in the download so no one gets confused finding it in the wild. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmr061 Posted December 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2016 And ouch...hope everyone is okay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Heath Jr Posted December 14, 2016 Report Share Posted December 14, 2016 Do not give out the test load...i added instructions and such right in the download so no one gets confused finding it in the wild. Thanks My Bad! I will download the new one, and link it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmr061 Posted December 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2016 NON NAVIGATION THIS UPGRADE IS FOR NORTH AMERICAN 2016 FORD/LINCOLN MODELS WITH SYNC3 V1.0 OR V 1.1 WITHOUT NAVIGATION ONLY. THIS WILL UPGRADE FROM VERSIONS 1.0/1.1 TO VERSION 2.2 IF YOU USE THIS ON ANYTHING OTHER THAN 1.0/1.1 YOU WILL RUIN YOUR UNIT...YOU WERE WARNED YOU WILL NEED A FAT32 OR EXFAT FORMATTED 4GB OR MORE USB FLASH DRIVE https://www.dropbox.com/s/tvvg32x6op...20V22.zip?dl=0 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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