All Hat No Cattle Posted May 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 2, 2017 If anyone is interested in A, Z, D and X Plan pricing, this is how it works for an Edge. I like the shipping weight note, 3957 lbs., but Transit Days- 18 seems slow? Edge 4 27 17 ~ invoice.pdf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted May 2, 2017 Report Share Posted May 2, 2017 Interesting that there is no FDAF (Regional advertising) on that invoice. Have they stopped listing it separately? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All Hat No Cattle Posted May 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 3, 2017 Have they stopped listing it separately? On the actual deal paperwork, they start with the X-Plan price, and added sales tax, doc fee, title. There is no mention of an advertising fee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richzx14 Posted May 4, 2017 Report Share Posted May 4, 2017 I think with X plan the doc fee is limited to $100 or so vs the big doc fee (read mostly pure dealer profit) of $399-$799 (or more depending on which manufacturer). Can you confirm the doc fee amount? Thx THIS WAS 2014 Document FeesDealers will be permitted to assess up to $100 in documentary fees on each delivery to an eligible purchaser under the terms of the Plan, unless otherwise provided by state or local laws or regulation. Each dealer is responsible for complying with applicable laws or regulations.Unless otherwise provided by state or local laws or regulation: In states where dealers are not permitted to charge as much as $100 for doc fees, dealers would be capped at the lesser amount as provided by the state. In states that permitted more than $100, dealers would be permitted to charge the Plan customer $100. In states that permitted more than $100 and also required that all customers be charged the same amount, dealers may charge the Plan customer $100 and indicate any additional fees have been paid by Ford Motor Company as part of the AXZD-Plan Program dealer reimbursement on the buyer's order.Doc Fee Charges should be detailed on the AXZD Plan Pricing Agreement located in number 4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted May 4, 2017 Report Share Posted May 4, 2017 On the actual deal paperwork, they start with the X-Plan price, and added sales tax, doc fee, title. There is no mention of an advertising fee. It's already included in the X plan price either way so it should never show up on the buyer's order. But in the past it was always shown as a separate line item on the dealer invoice along with the fuel fee. In the past this made it hard to use the internet to get an accurate dealer invoice price and because the FDAF fee varied from vehicle to vehicle, region to region, which is why it wasn't included in online dealer invoice pricing sites. Hopefully they stopped doing it and just included a standard fee on all vehicles as part of the base price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted May 4, 2017 Report Share Posted May 4, 2017 I think with X plan the doc fee is limited to $100 or so vs the big doc fee (read mostly pure dealer profit) of $399-$799 (or more depending on which manufacturer). Can you confirm the doc fee amount? Thx THIS WAS 2014 Document Fees Dealers will be permitted to assess up to $100 in documentary fees on each delivery to an eligible purchaser under the terms of the Plan, unless otherwise provided by state or local laws or regulation. Each dealer is responsible for complying with applicable laws or regulations. Unless otherwise provided by state or local laws or regulation: In states where dealers are not permitted to charge as much as $100 for doc fees, dealers would be capped at the lesser amount as provided by the state. In states that permitted more than $100, dealers would be permitted to charge the Plan customer $100. In states that permitted more than $100 and also required that all customers be charged the same amount, dealers may charge the Plan customer $100 and indicate any additional fees have been paid by Ford Motor Company as part of the AXZD-Plan Program dealer reimbursement on the buyer's order. Doc Fee Charges should be detailed on the AXZD Plan Pricing Agreement located in number 4. Yes it's limited to $100. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All Hat No Cattle Posted May 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 4, 2017 Can you confirm the doc fee amount? Thx All 4 dealers in Vegas have a $499 doc fee ( I'm sure that is a coincidence), LOL. With X-Plan my current dealer charges the max allowed, $100, my previous dealer charged $75. See for yourself, ignore the security system charge, it ain't happening. Order002.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All Hat No Cattle Posted May 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 8, 2017 OK, more good news. ETIS finally updated the Build date, to 06.05.2017. So, I'm assuming that is May 6.? That is interesting, because the 6th was Saturday. From the dealer. Arlene's Edge has been built and is currently awaiting shipment! Should be here in about 2 weeks. I'll keep you posted. Have a great day! Ford Marketing, at 1-800-334-4375, gave me an ETA of May 25 today. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWizard Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 (edited) No, that would be June 5th using American date formatting (even though build is in Canada). However, that would make delivery May 25th a kind of Back to the Future thing. Edited May 9, 2017 by TheWizard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirby Posted May 9, 2017 Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 No, that would be June 5th using American date formatting (even though build is in Canada). However, that would make delivery May 25th a kind of Back to the Future thing. Pretty sure ETIS uses European date format, so May 6 may be correct. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All Hat No Cattle Posted May 9, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2017 Pretty sure ETIS uses European date format, so May 6 may be correct. Correct. I dug up my 2016 F-150 VIN and ETIS has a 15.02.2016 Build Date, delivered March 4. European format for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All Hat No Cattle Posted May 11, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 11, 2017 It looks like I am the only one on the Forum that has an Edge on order, if I am following this thread correctly, LOL. But, for future reference, if your salesman is not giving you updates like this, I would ask, why not? Passing through IN this am. ETA looks to be late next week or early the week of the 22nd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJB3 Posted May 11, 2017 Report Share Posted May 11, 2017 It looks like I am the only one on the Forum that has an Edge on order, if I am following this thread correctly, LOL. But, for future reference, if your salesman is not giving you updates like this, I would ask, why not? I have an Edge Sport on order. It was built on 5/5, a day ahead of yours. I was told that it was on a rail car on the 6th headed west. I am in central California. My 2015 Edge came west through Elko and Sparks Nevada and I suspect this one will take the same route. Both of ours could be on the same train and yours would probably head south from Elko as mine continues west. Just guessing. MJB3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All Hat No Cattle Posted May 12, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 (edited) Both of ours could be on the same train and yours would probably head south from Elko as mine continues west. Just guessing. MJB3 Now that would be cool! BTW, my first post on this thread about ETIS still applies, LOL. Man, I hope I don't end up with a 2015 Leaker! Edited May 12, 2017 by All Hat No Cattle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All Hat No Cattle Posted May 15, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2017 Today. Arlene's Edge passed through Nebraska over the weekend. It might be here late this week, otherwise early next week. Have a great day! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RC Mike Posted May 16, 2017 Report Share Posted May 16, 2017 Seems like such a long time since you started this process. I'm glad you're finally getting it. You've been patient! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All Hat No Cattle Posted May 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2017 (edited) Seems like such a long time since you started this process. I'm glad you're finally getting it. You've been patient! Thanks. This is probably our 20-25th new vehicle, 13th or 14th Ford, so we don't get that excited about a new vehicle any more. I'm recounting this experience because of the first dealer screw-up, and the AS delay, so others can learn from it. BTW, talked to the dealer today, unrelated to the purchase, and he mentioned that it is passing thru Utah, right on schedule. We'll see how it goes. Edited May 17, 2017 by All Hat No Cattle 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All Hat No Cattle Posted May 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 22, 2017 Arlene's car is in NV!! I won't be able to see any updates through our system any longer. I will watch the incoming deliveries and call you as soon as I see it here! Talk to you soon! And so it goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJB3 Posted May 23, 2017 Report Share Posted May 23, 2017 My Edge Sport arrived in town this morning. Will probably pick it up tomorrow. MJB3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All Hat No Cattle Posted May 24, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 24, 2017 My Edge Sport arrived in town this morning. Will probably pick it up tomorrow. MJB3 It's raining Edges, LOL. Arlene's Edge has arrived!! I am off today but my guys just called me and let me know. We still need to check it and and safety inspect it (as you know). Are you available around noon tomorrow to come down and take it home? Of course, the wife has something scheduled for most of tomorrow, so Thursday looks like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All Hat No Cattle Posted May 25, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2017 (edited) And we have liftoff!! Wife likes it. It is the smaller one in the picture. X-Plan price, plus $100 Doc Fee, minus $3850 in rebates. Only good thing about the delays, lot better rebates. Now to move on to other things. Edited May 26, 2017 by All Hat No Cattle 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All Hat No Cattle Posted May 25, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2017 (edited) Oops!! Forgot the picture. Edited May 26, 2017 by All Hat No Cattle 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWWPerfA_ZN0W Posted May 26, 2017 Report Share Posted May 26, 2017 Gorgeous! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tightanium Posted May 26, 2017 Report Share Posted May 26, 2017 We think alike. Except yours match. I have a white 13 F150 super crew and a black 16 titanium Edge. I say we look cool in the garage as people look at them when they drive by. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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