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Replacement Options for 21" Pirelli P-Zero Performance Tires

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Punctured the sidewall on one of my P-Zeros this morning. I've been looking for a more affordable summer performance tire in 21" since the P-Zeros run upwards of $400 per tire, on sale maybe $250 if you get lucky. I found a couple of options in the $150 per tire range. One was the Radar (Omni-United) Dimax R8+, and I just found these Atturo AZ850 tires on Amazon Prime (free shipping) for $154 per tire. Not bad at all. Wondering if anyone has tried either of these or has comments?

 

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B013C0C5TI/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

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me personally, 21 and performance don't fit. I'd be looking into a 20in wheel combo. Though that may raise the price and doesn't help your current solution. I personally have two dreams, 1 is 4 20x10.5 daily use wheels and 2 18in light weight track only wheels. But both of those are a long way from happening as I have other pending mods that I consider more important

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I know you have never been a fan of the 21" set up and now I know why. I have been riding on the stock 20's (same 20's you have) w/ Hankook S1 all seasons for the last few days and I do have to say that the difference in ride quality is much greater than I originally thought (compared to the 21's & P-Zeros), way more suitable for daily drive. I did however just order those Atturo AZ850's for my 21's ($530 all in). Also went out and bought a floor jack and impact wrench so I can switch back and forth easily now.

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I put a couple hundred miles on the Atturos this weekend and my first impressions are great, they seem to handle pretty damn well for a $130 tire, no doubt. The hook very well, which is what everyone has been claiming about them. Apparently these tires have become very popular for charger/challenger scat pack owners because of they're good hooking characteristics (and cheap cost of course). They come in 255/50 x 20 also, if anyone is looking for a super affordable performance tire for 20 inch wheels, I think they're even a bit cheaper than the 21's...closer to $115 each. We'll see how they wear in now, they would need to have very disappointing wear characteristics to not justify the price of these.

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I put a couple hundred miles on the Atturos this weekend and my first impressions are great, they seem to handle pretty damn well for a $130 tire, no doubt. The hook very well, which is what everyone has been claiming about them. Apparently these tires have become very popular for charger/challenger scat pack owners because of they're good hooking characteristics (and cheap cost of course). They come in 255/50 x 20 also, if anyone is looking for a super affordable performance tire for 20 inch wheels, I think they're even a bit cheaper than the 21's...closer to $115 each. We'll see how they wear in now, they would need to have very disappointing wear characteristics to not justify the price of these.

By now you must have a few thousand miles on them - are they still doing good, and would you buy them again.

 

I'm considering these, but all the fitment places around here are asking a fortune to fit tires not bought from them, so still need to figure out how I'll get that done.

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https://www.vredestein.com/car-suv-van/tyre-finder/tyres/product/1/265/40/21/1166

 

This tire is from the Netherlands, it is a good tire I got as replacements to the stock 21" tires. Good reviews on them from UK & Australia, but not sure if they are available in the US.

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The brand and tire are local to me, but all the info on their website suggest that the tire is a high performance/ summer tire not all season :(

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By now you must have a few thousand miles on them - are they still doing good, and would you buy them again.

 

I'm considering these, but all the fitment places around here are asking a fortune to fit tires not bought from them, so still need to figure out how I'll get that done.

 

You can get them from Amazon Prime for $124 each with free shipping, and then also buy the service ad-on for mount/balance. This basically lets you use a local tire shop based on zip code to install them by pre-paying the fee, which is usually about $16 per tire. If you go this route, you are looking at $560 all in. I've got about 7500 miles on mine now and they are still in great shape (I'll post a tread wear picture later today). They are a bargain at that price and I will certainly buy them again. At this rate, I'm expecting to get about 20k out of them. Not much by normal standards, but considering I only got about 8k out of my p-zero's, they are lasting way longer. I drive super aggressive and would go broke buying p-zero's every 10k. Other than wear, I really can't compare them to the p-zero's because I haven't done any canyon runs with the Atturos, but so far there is no reason to not buy them again. I did notice that the p-zeros handle a little better in the rain though. Anyway, here's the Amazon ad:

 

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01A7EX0SW/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_15?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER

 

(don't mind the picture in the ad, its some Hankook off-road tire and not even close to what they actually look like)

 

Here's after 7500 miles:

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With tires, you usually get what you pay for. That's not to say I don't understand sometimes they are just cost prohibitive. If I could I'd have Bridgestone or Pirelli's on every street car but I don't.

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Update on Atturo AZ 850's : I put 4 of these tires on my Edge (21") on the recommendation of forum member Roots57 back in January..I liked them, seemed to be a great deal for $525 delivered. Up here in the SF Bay Area where I live the weather has been fairly mild up until the beginning of this month, we have just started to get some sustained hot weather in the 75 - 85F range...This has brought about a serious improvement in the performance of the Atturo's..Lateral adhesion is greatly improved, braking distance is better and the tire just seems to have more 'bite' overall. Not surprising really - it is sold as a HP Summer tire. So the upshot here is if you want these tires to perform.....ya gotta get some heat into 'em.

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On 7/4/2018 at 11:38 PM, I'manedgeowner said:

With tires, you usually get what you pay for. That's not to say I don't understand sometimes they are just cost prohibitive. If I could I'd have Bridgestone or Pirelli's on every street car but I don't.

I'm approaching replacement time for the Atturo which will be the same, or a little more mileage than I got out of the Pirelli P-Zero and they're half the price - of course I'm looking at another set of Atturo's. 

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