Perblue Report post Posted January 17, 2019 I haven't seen anyone post about this but I would be surprised if these things didn't affect the ST. https://www-carscoops-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.carscoops.com/2019/01/2019-lincoln-nautilus-recalled-address-malfunctioning-safety-software/amp/?amp_js_v=a2&amp_gsa=1#referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From %1%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.carscoops.com%2F2019%2F01%2F2019-lincoln-nautilus-recalled-address-malfunctioning-safety-software%2F 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dacford Report post Posted January 17, 2019 My ST (Oct. 18 build) definitely alerts me if have hands off the steering wheel longer than maybe 4 seconds when the lane sensing / adaptive cruise is engaged. It is amazing how it will steer perfectly around curves in the road and then back straight again....unless the white line to the right is unpainted for an intersection, then it will jerk a bit to the right and then come back. However it does sense even a very lite touch to the wheel....but will immediately alert your with beeps, text and orange illumination if you leave hands off or just hover your hands around the wheel for few seconds. Shifting and mileage are very good in mine as have a stretch now of 450 miles at 27.5 mpg. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Perblue Report post Posted January 17, 2019 Mine does too but the article says some not all. So I'm thinking they found the bug and held the STs until they had a fix. The Nautilus was shipping and on lots before the edge/ST was and came with the more advanced driver assist features that the edge gets if it has the 301 or 401 package. I could be way off but made in same plant, same platform and similar features, likely similar issues. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
omar302 Report post Posted January 17, 2019 It is stated that the recal is "Issued by parent company Ford, the latest one addresses vehicles equipped with lane-centering assist and adaptive front steering." The 2019 Edge ST does not have Adaptive Steering. That is probably why the Edge is not included or effected by that recall. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Perblue Report post Posted January 17, 2019 Did they really remove it though? Seems odd it was on last years and not now. I know they don't list it but there are lots of unlisted things now a days. It also seems like i move the wheel less than my old one on the highway but seems about the same as the 18 sport I drove. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
omar302 Report post Posted January 17, 2019 To check, from my own experience: 1) Is the bottom spoke of the steering wheel hollow or filled? Hollow means without adaptive steering. 2) Another test, with the engine off, turn the steering wheel a half turn or so, then start the engine, if it has adaptive steering the wheel will realign. 3) How many turns does it need to go from lock to lock? On a 2016 with Adaptive steering it is 2 turns only. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WWWPerfA_ZN0W Report post Posted January 17, 2019 There IS a similar SSM for the Edge 2016/7 with lanekeeping and adaptive steering. An update to the SECM software was the apparent fix. SSM 46481 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Perblue Report post Posted January 17, 2019 7 hours ago, omar302 said: To check, from my own experience: 1) Is the bottom spoke of the steering wheel hollow or filled? Hollow means without adaptive steering. 2) Another test, with the engine off, turn the steering wheel a half turn or so, then start the engine, if it has adaptive steering the wheel will realign. 3) How many turns does it need to go from lock to lock? On a 2016 with Adaptive steering it is 2 turns only. Bottom spoke is hollow but it is 2 turns lock to lock to lock. Turned wheel with it off and steering wheel did nothing when turned back on. Not sure if this identified anything or not lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fingernip Report post Posted January 17, 2019 8 hours ago, omar302 said: To check, from my own experience: 1) Is the bottom spoke of the steering wheel hollow or filled? Hollow means without adaptive steering. 2) Another test, with the engine off, turn the steering wheel a half turn or so, then start the engine, if it has adaptive steering the wheel will realign. 3) How many turns does it need to go from lock to lock? On a 2016 with Adaptive steering it is 2 turns only. I asked a Ford rep about adaptive steering and was told it is not available anymore. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
akirby Report post Posted January 17, 2019 Adaptive Steering says it was removed from the 2019 Titanium and there is no other mention of it in the order guide so yeah, it’s gone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Perblue Report post Posted January 17, 2019 Okay, My dealer thought it was still there but I was really wondering. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dacford Report post Posted January 17, 2019 Well whatever we or Ford want to call it, my ST will steer itself and continue to do so as long as there are bright edge of road lines and it does slow down and maintain distance for coming up to car in front as well. Yes, I need to just barely touch the steering wheel so it knows I am THERE and I COULD take control but it WILL follow the road on its own; supposedly if deer were to run onto road it would apply brakes and also try to avoid an object blocking the lane by swerving around it....I have not tried or experienced that yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Perblue Report post Posted January 17, 2019 (edited) 37 minutes ago, dacford said: Well whatever we or Ford want to call it, my ST will steer itself and continue to do so as long as there are bright edge of road lines and it does slow down and maintain distance for coming up to car in front as well. Yes, I need to just barely touch the steering wheel so it knows I am THERE and I COULD take control but it WILL follow the road on its own; supposedly if deer were to run onto road it would apply brakes and also try to avoid an object blocking the lane by swerving around it....I have not tried or experienced that yet. That isn't adaptive steering. Adaptive steering changes the steering ratio at certain speeds. What you described is lane keeping. If the recall only affected early nautilus's with both then it had no affect on the edge delay. It was a thought but looks to have been likely wrong. Edited January 17, 2019 by Perblue 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
