mybrotherisanub Posted January 14, 2021 Report Share Posted January 14, 2021 hey guys, I just bought a used 2017 SEL. I am looking to do this conversion. So, should I be looking for Explorer Platinum, MKX, MKZ clusters? Or anything else? Was anyone else able to get the Nautilus one to work? Or has anyone tried the new Escape or Explorer fully LCD one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadhawk Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 On 1/14/2021 at 3:39 PM, mybrotherisanub said: hey guys, I just bought a used 2017 SEL. I am looking to do this conversion. So, should I be looking for Explorer Platinum, MKX, MKZ clusters? Or anything else? Was anyone else able to get the Nautilus one to work? Or has anyone tried the new Escape or Explorer fully LCD one? I was curious myself if it had to be MKX cluster or would the MKZ work as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dolsen Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 (edited) Deleted, because I think my information is more harmful than helpful Edited January 21, 2021 by dolsen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onyxbfly Posted January 21, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 IIRC the MKZ cluster will not fit. You have to use the cluster from a MKX or an Explorer Platinum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omar302 Posted January 21, 2021 Report Share Posted January 21, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, onyxbfly said: IIRC the MKZ cluster will not fit. You have to use the cluster from a MKX or an Explorer Platinum. My "not so certain" information is that MKX, MKZ & Explorer Platinum will work. Lincoln MKC will NOT work, even though it looks the same & would fit, it will not work due to it having a single fuel sender. In all cases, you still need the Euro Edge Cluster Mask. Edited January 21, 2021 by omar302 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd2299 Posted April 15, 2021 Report Share Posted April 15, 2021 (edited) Hello all. I am kind of new here, but wanted to share this with anyone who may be interested. I reached out to Robert Ingle (through FaceBook) as he has done these MKX swaps for many many Fusions. I was so impressed with his work, that I reached out to him to help me with one for my 2016 Edge Sport. Here is what I received. The cluster was out of a 2016 MKX that only had .5 miles on the odometer as it was totaled by hail damage before it ever left the dealership. He was able to source the mask and cluster as well as "reverse engineer" the firmware to work with my car. All I did was send him my VIN and the current mileage, he did the rest. Literally plug and play, EVERYTHING (adaptive cruise, lane keep, etc) worked as it should and I could not be happier. He mentioned having a few masks for our cars left if anyone is interested in a true "turn-key" solution to adding an awesome IPC upgrade If interested, you should search for him on Facebook under his name. Edited May 7, 2021 by Todd2299 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omar302 Posted May 20, 2021 Report Share Posted May 20, 2021 (edited) I finally joined the club. I found an MKX Cluster with Km/h with less mileage than my Edge. Used ForScan to increase the odometer to match mine. Also used ForScan to copy the ABD from my Edge's cluster to the MKX, only the redline marking was missing, so using the ForScan "easy" configuration for the cluster (IPC) selected the redline range 1 & got the correct redline (Edit: also had to set 720-05-02: xxxx 17xx for the Fuel guage to work correctly). As the MKX cluster was from a 2018 model, it already has the digital speedo in the middle. As I had not done any "Firmware" programming (mainly to save $$$), I now have the MKX chimes for startup, door ajar & turn signals. Total cost was ~ $300/- (Cluster, Mask & shipping). By the way, for information, the cluster with the MKX mask would not even go in. The tabs for the MKX are on the sides & hence it becomes too wide to go in. Maybe breaking off the tabs could have helped, but you'd risk breaking the Mask. So a EU/China Edge Mask is a must. Edited June 13, 2021 by omar302 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omar302 Posted June 22, 2021 Report Share Posted June 22, 2021 A question to those who did the MKX Cluster retrofit, do your chimes work fine? Mine are now Lincoln chimes but the problem is they have noticeably lower volume. Also, I remember when closing the liftgate a warning chime used to come at the rear, this doesn't come anymore. I feel like the Lincoln Chimes are only coming from the front speakers instead of from front and back and hence the liftgate chimes not coming. Note: The chimes are coming from the speakers, not from the IPC. So it is not that issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceonept Posted June 22, 2021 Report Share Posted June 22, 2021 Do none of the North American Edges have this instrument cluster as standard then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omar302 Posted June 22, 2021 Report Share Posted June 22, 2021 15 minutes ago, niceonept said: Do none of the North American Edges have this instrument cluster as standard then? No. None have it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceonept Posted June 22, 2021 Report Share Posted June 22, 2021 (edited) 49 minutes ago, omar302 said: No. None have it. They're standard on all the European models, however all of them are diesels. Not sure about the middle Eastern and Asia-Pacific markets though. Maybe they have petrol versions of the Edge that would make a more straightforward swap? Edited June 22, 2021 by niceonept Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omar302 Posted June 22, 2021 Report Share Posted June 22, 2021 32 minutes ago, niceonept said: They're standard on all the European models, however all of them are diesels. Not sure about the middle Eastern and Asia-Pacific markets though. Maybe they have petrol versions of the Edge that would make a more straightforward swap? Middle East, like mine, are similar to US. Same equipment & engines, only some additional cooling equipment & speedo in Km/h instead of MPH. Also FM radio has all frequencies. I already did the Cluster swap from a 2018 Canadian MKX. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omar302 Posted July 14, 2021 Report Share Posted July 14, 2021 On 6/22/2021 at 11:45 AM, omar302 said: A question to those who did the MKX Cluster retrofit, do your chimes work fine? Mine are now Lincoln chimes but the problem is they have noticeably lower volume. Also, I remember when closing the liftgate a warning chime used to come at the rear, this doesn't come anymore. I feel like the Lincoln Chimes are only coming from the front speakers instead of from front and back and hence the liftgate chimes not coming. Note: The chimes are coming from the speakers, not from the IPC. So it is not that issue. Can anyone confirm this? I also now confirmed that the liftgate closing chime & overspeed (+120km/h) chime don't come. If the chimes are switched to IPC they will come, but if the chimes are set to vehicle speakers they don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onyxbfly Posted July 14, 2021 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2021 3 hours ago, omar302 said: Can anyone confirm this? I also now confirmed that the liftgate closing chime & overspeed (+120km/h) chime don't come. If the chimes are switched to IPC they will come, but if the chimes are set to vehicle speakers they don't. It's odd because I had the chimes but now I do not. I never had the overspeed chime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omar302 Posted July 14, 2021 Report Share Posted July 14, 2021 3 hours ago, onyxbfly said: It's odd because I had the chimes but now I do not. I never had the overspeed chime. I suspect it is a mismatch between the Lincoln IPC's chime generator to the Ford Audio system, like some chimes or parts of them should have gone to a speaker(s) not available on the the Ford. The overspeed chime is enabled for the GCC market, a single chime & a yellow indicator showing (>120). This can also be enabled/disabled using ForScan. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HUTCHRED Posted August 16, 2021 Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 Hey hey, everyone. How has the long term experience been with these? Couple of things, Anyone have any issues? Ford give anyone any grief on them? What kind of costs have people seen with this swap? I saw in a post where someone recommended reaching out to a guy on FB but I dont have a FB account (I know, I know, what millennial doesn't?). Anyway, it will be a couple of months before I take ownership of the car but was trying to be prepared. My family is doing a bit of a car swap and I am ending up with a 2020 Edge ST. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dolsen Posted August 16, 2021 Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 2 hours ago, HUTCHRED said: Anyway, it will be a couple of months before I take ownership of the car but was trying to be prepared. My family is doing a bit of a car swap and I am ending up with a 2020 Edge ST. I think you need to wait and see if it is possible to swap a 2019+ nautilus cluster in there. If you had a 15-18, I would say for the MKX cluster 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HUTCHRED Posted August 16, 2021 Report Share Posted August 16, 2021 8 minutes ago, dolsen said: I think you need to wait and see if it is possible to swap a 2019+ nautilus cluster in there. If you had a 15-18, I would say for the MKX cluster Thank you, I will do so! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmr061 Posted December 5, 2021 Report Share Posted December 5, 2021 If anyone is interested I pulled mine from my 16 Edge a couple months ago and went back to stock. It currently has custom firmware in it and I have some other custom firmware files for it. It was programmed for my 16 Sport. If anyone would be interested in it send me a PM for more details as this isn't the for sale section of the forum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omar302 Posted January 3, 2022 Report Share Posted January 3, 2022 Hi all, Can anyone confirm what firmware files works with the MKX cluster on the Edge? Or where I can find them? My cluster currently is stick MKX and is working fine, but I'd like to switch to the Ford colors and it would also be nice to get the outside temperature display. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SC_ST Posted January 8, 2022 Report Share Posted January 8, 2022 On 12/5/2021 at 11:31 AM, jmr061 said: If anyone is interested I pulled mine from my 16 Edge a couple months ago and went back to stock. It currently has custom firmware in it and I have some other custom firmware files for it. It was programmed for my 16 Sport. If anyone would be interested in it send me a PM for more details as this isn't the for sale section of the forum How much ya want for it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omar302 Posted February 2, 2022 Report Share Posted February 2, 2022 On 1/3/2022 at 8:57 PM, omar302 said: Hi all, Can anyone confirm what firmware files works with the MKX cluster on the Edge? Or where I can find them? My cluster currently is stick MKX and is working fine, but I'd like to switch to the Ford colors and it would also be nice to get the outside temperature display. Just an update, I found that the below are the EU Edge firmware files: EU Edge (I think for later 2016 up to 2018. dated Aug. 25, 2016, they are with the thin needles and center digital speedometer? GM2T-14C026-NE GM2T-14C026-ANE GM2T-14C088-NE GM2T-14C088-ANE Also found these for earlier build UK 2016 Edge (with thick needles but without center digital speedometer): GM2T-14C026-NC GM2T-14C026-ANC GM2T-14C088-NC GM2T-14C088-ANC I also found out that with the Ford graphics and new "thin" needles, if the Cluster welcome startup was enabled the startup animation would show the thick needles (during the animation) and then change to the thin needles. This seems to be because when Ford started to use the "thin" needles on newer vehicles, the clusters were configured without the "welcome" animation turned on, hence the graphics animation for the welcome screen were never updated. So if you use any firmware with "thin" needles you need to disable the welcome screen. Anyway, I have eventually settled (for the time being) on the FS7T firmware of the Fusion/Mondeo listed in the 2gfusion thread that include the thick needles, outside temperature display and correct animation. The Ford graphics & blue needles, in my opinion, are better looking than the Lincoln's. They also make them easier to read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceonept Posted February 2, 2022 Report Share Posted February 2, 2022 Interesting to compare and see the small differences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmr061 Posted February 2, 2022 Report Share Posted February 2, 2022 Does this cluster exist in the 19/20 Edge in Europe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceonept Posted February 2, 2022 Report Share Posted February 2, 2022 (edited) 33 minutes ago, jmr061 said: Does this cluster exist in the 19/20 Edge in Europe? This is a German 2020 Edge. Looks identical to me. Edited February 2, 2022 by niceonept Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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