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I have a 2016 Titanium V6 with 10,200 miles. We got it 2.5 months ago and my wife and I really like it. One thing I've noticed, however, is the brakes are really sensitive. They work fine but when pulling into a parking spot, it is sometimes difficult to stop smoothly. I kinda have to concentrate on it or it sort of grabs (and makes me look like a newbie). Stopping from speed is fine. I'm comparing it to my Z51 Corvette which has great brakes and doesn't behave this way. Is this common to the Edge?

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10 minutes ago, WWWPerfA_ZN0W said:

MIght need ABS module reprogramming, OR brake booster replacement.

 

I am aware of the TSB for 2015 and early built 2016 models for the same issue that involved replacing the Brake Booster, but don't remember the ABS module reprogramming, do you have more details?

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That is a suggestion on my part in case the booster fix does not work.  Not officially a Ford fix :)  The booster would be OOP, not paid for by Ford in the absence of warranty.

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10 hours ago, ksquared said:

One thing I've noticed, however, is the brakes are really sensitive. They work fine but when pulling into a parking spot, it is sometimes difficult to stop smoothly.


You're not alone with this issue.  My '16 (built after the TSB date) reacts exactly the same as yours at low speed and is particularly bad when the brakes are cold.  It makes creeping along in a fast food pickup queue maddening.  I've asked in these forums before whether a pad change would help but never received a definitive answer. 

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i have taken ours in to dealer twice and they will not make an attempt to fix it, bleed the brakes, reprogram, or a booster. I really do like the veh but this is ridiculous. 

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Hi All,

I just bought a 2018 EDGE Sport and as you have all found: the brakes are over-boosted and way too touchy to use.

This really irks me as in hitting the brake in a "dangerous" situation, I find that I'm Over-Braking.  The sudden "jerk" on

on passengers is very uncomfortable and as one member noted: a HANS Device could be needed.

 

Further, I like a pedal that takes some pressure and can be modulated.  Bouncing off the ABS is not a driving technique.

My Porsche track-car takes about 150+ lbs to work, but modulation is great.

 

The ONLY solution that I can see is installing HARDER BRAKE PADS.  Hard pads (racing maybe) will take more pressure to work

offer better modulation and lessen the "OOPS, I hit the brakes" behavior.

 

The solution will take some internet surfing as there are a number of suppliers out there.  Here is just one: https://www.brakeworld.com/products?car=54-1658-2018&clev=0&hs=1

  

Cheers,

Terry

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Hi Terry,

If you find a pad that works be sure to let everyone know.  Edge owners have complained for years about this and pad replacements (to ceraminc) are sometimes suggested but I've never seen anyone say they 'fixed' it with a specific pad.

 

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I 'might' have stumbled over a solution to this problem!
While messing around with FORScan recently I decided to do a reset of the ABS module.  I don't know if this will be a long term fix but now my brakes are predictable from a normal stop and that low speed grabbiness is gone.  I can now brake without getting the 'furry eyeball' from my frequent passenger and chief navigation specialist in the right seat.  I'll update this if the obnoxious braking returns but for now the fix seems to be in.
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Thank you gadget!  I had the dealer reset the ABS module and it is cured.  I had been fighting this issue for over a year, taken to two different dealerships.  I was there for a tire repair, and asked if they could reset using the fordscan. he gave me a strange look but they did. Irritating I had taken it to that dealership for that issue and they told me that is just the way it is, could do anything. 

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I'm happy to hear it worked for you TK!   Now to retrain your braking foot to press just a little harder than before. ;)

 

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On 3/25/2020 at 1:49 PM, Gadgetjq said:

I 'might' have stumbled over a solution to this problem!
While messing around with FORScan recently I decided to do a reset of the ABS module.  I don't know if this will be a long term fix but now my brakes are predictable from a normal stop and that low speed grabbiness is gone.  I can now brake without getting the 'furry eyeball' from my frequent passenger and chief navigation specialist in the right seat.  I'll update this if the obnoxious braking returns but for now the fix seems to be in.
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I tried running this with forscan this afternoon but I got an error that the module reset could not be completed- what am I doing wrong?

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1 hour ago, Ecoboosted said:

I tried running this with forscan this afternoon but I got an error that the module reset could not be completed- what am I doing wrong?


Are you using a code reader known to work well with FORScan?  Some of the cheap eBay readers can't see a lot of Ford's modules (computers) so can't make changes/adjustments.

 

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Yeah I got it, I didn't tell it I had HS + MS on the initial connection so it wasn't looking for it and aborted the reset when I tried the first time.

 

It "seems" better, but I won't know for sure until it's cold and rainy- that's when it's the worst.

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Ok so I went ahead and ordered the replacement booster. I went by the part number in the bulletin, and that is the part number on the box. When I opened it, the part number on the booster is the same as what is currently in the vehicle. Obviously they are compatible, but do I need the part with the actual part number referenced in the bulletin to get the improvement?

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You can call Ford corporate directly to confirm, but I hope fellow owners who have had the booster updated will respond with pics as well.

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On 10/10/2020 at 4:47 AM, Ecoboosted said:

Ok so I went ahead and ordered the replacement booster. I went by the part number in the bulletin, and that is the part number on the box. When I opened it, the part number on the booster is the same as what is currently in the vehicle. Obviously they are compatible, but do I need the part with the actual part number referenced in the bulletin to get the improvement?

 

The bulletin is addressed to vehicles Built On Or Before 3/23/2016. So your 2018 was supposed to have the updated Booster.

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Mine is a 2015, I think the 2018 was the OP So I finally got around to replacing the booster today- I don't normally react this way but.... This is literally like a new car- it actually has pedal travel and stops like you would expect it to. What really gets me is that there's a bulletin on this, I took it to the dealer and told them I wanted them to change it, they said everything is normal and said not to change it even after I was clear that I was ok paying them to do it. So I ended up saving a few bucks on labor and I'm stoked that there was such a significant improvement. Now I'm ready to order a tuner from Livernois and keep this thing a while. If you've got short pedal travel and touchy brakes, don't hesitate on the booster update.

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