EMT6996 Posted February 8, 2023 Report Share Posted February 8, 2023 Hi All, New guy here and thanks for the add. So here is my dilemma. My Wife's 2019 Edge Titanium needs a new 3rd brake light. She made contact with the garage door when the liftback was open and slowly over the past year all the L.E.D.'s have stopped working but two. It will not pass the NY state vehicle inspection. The dealer wants almost $700 to replace the thing. I purchased an OEM one off of ebay for $124. So I attempted to change it out this morning with no luck. I removed the 5 nuts holding the rear spoiler/light housing and trim easy enough. But I cannot get the rear visor/light assy. to lift off. I saw an old video on youtube and it was not much help as it was for a 2015 Edge. There has to be something that I am missing. I can see the adhesive tape but am very certain that is not it. I can lift each end up a little with effort. It feels like something in the center area (around the rear window washer) is holding the thing pretty strongly. Can anyone tell me what I am missing? are there instructions/video somewhere that shows what I am doing wrong? I don't want to pay $700 for this if possible. And, I don't want to break the visor either. I'm on disability and really don't have the money to do it anyway. PLEASE HELP!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haz Posted February 8, 2023 Report Share Posted February 8, 2023 Welcome to the Forum! Below are relevant sections from the 2019 Edge Workshop Manual... Document download links> Rear Spoiler - Removal and Installation - 2019 Edge Workshop Manual.pdf High Mounted Stoplamp - Removal and Installation - 2019 Edge Workshop Manual.pdf Good luck! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1004ron Posted February 9, 2023 Report Share Posted February 9, 2023 (edited) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUtyYU15Fk4 Edited February 9, 2023 by 1004ron 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1004ron Posted February 9, 2023 Report Share Posted February 9, 2023 4 hours ago, EMT6996 said: I purchased an OEM one off of ebay for $124. Could you post a link to this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CARR142 Posted February 9, 2023 Report Share Posted February 9, 2023 https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=kUtyYU15Fk4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeepwx03 Posted March 13, 2023 Report Share Posted March 13, 2023 Does anyone know what kind of foam tape is required for reinstallation? I'd like to get an idea before taking it off in case I need to buy some if it's damaged during removal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EMT6996 Posted March 22, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2023 Jeepwx03, So I finally got around to changing the rear visor brake light today. It took one hour start to finish only because the rubber tape is SUPER sticky and tough to break the seal. I didn't want to brake the rear glass obviously so I removed the six 10mm cap nuts, unplugged the one wire connector and rear wiper/washer hose. Starting on one side I released the tape with a putty knife and then put in a wooden tapered wedge and worked across until all the tape was free from the glass. The visor came off with some effort. I did manage to break two of the white plastic body clips as I figured I would. It was a good thing that I purchased a box of them from Amazon for nine bucks. So the tape that came off is a rubber butyl type and is almost 1/8" thick by 3/4" wide. I wound up buying a roll of 3M rubber tape and doubled it so I would have an 1/8" thick piece that would compress and seal nicely. The brake light was $124 from eBay, The tape was $6 for a roll and the clips were $9 with tax. Far better than the $600+ price quoted from Ford. I would not use a foam type tape. I feel the sticky rubber tape has more of a waterproof seal. So yeah, Just a little bit of patience and it was easy to do. Toughest thing is removing the visor because the old tape really holds it down. But like I said once you get an end started, Just keep applying lifting force as you proceed across and before you know it, She'll pop free. Hope this helps Paul 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1004ron Posted April 4, 2023 Report Share Posted April 4, 2023 On 2/8/2023 at 3:37 PM, EMT6996 said: I purchased an OEM one off of ebay for $124. So I attempted to change it out this morning with no luck. PLEASE HELP!! Could you post a link to this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1004ron Posted May 24, 2023 Report Share Posted May 24, 2023 I've ordered the replacement from Amazon - Its the Dorman brand and hopefully it lasts longer than the OEM. Amazon.com: Dorman 923-133 Center High Mount Stop Light Compatible with Select Ford Models : Automotive @Haz do you have any details for the double-sided tape used between the spoiler and the glass? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haz Posted May 24, 2023 Report Share Posted May 24, 2023 Sorry, no first-hand experience nor Workshop Manual advice beyond the previously shared documents. EMT6996 is the subject matter expert here, I'd say. Good luck! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1004ron Posted May 27, 2023 Report Share Posted May 27, 2023 Yesterday I took everything off and prepped it ready for the delivery of the new LED today. I had to make a trip to Lowe's for 3M mounting tape, 12 point deep 13mm socket, and blade scraper. Used a snap blade utility knife to cut through the double sided tape, removed the 6 plastic 12 point nuts, then came the brute force to pop the spoiler off the 4 with plastic clips - I packed rags under the spoiler to create some tension, then thumped it upwards with the ball of my hand and all 4 plastic clips popped off. The new LED light is higher quality than OEM - the clear lens is attached more securely with a good hard sealing/bonding - the clear lens just popped off the old one and suspect that allowed moisture ingress and failure of 4 out of the 12 LED's. The only thing I would do differently would be to find thicker double sided foam tape, around 2mm thick. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1004ron Posted June 5, 2023 Report Share Posted June 5, 2023 With the good motorcycle weather, I haven't used my Sport much, but yesterday I noticed a rattle from the back which I suspect is due the much thinner double sided foam tape that I used. I'm planning to take it off and remount with thicker double-sided foam tape but can't find any - any help sourcing this or even the OEM tape would be most welcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haz Posted June 5, 2023 Report Share Posted June 5, 2023 (edited) Thickest double-sided I've found is 3M 4959, 1/8" thick, in various widths... Document download links> 3M™ VHB™ Tape - Specialty Tape 4959F Technical Data Sheet.pdf 3M VHB Family of Specialty Tapes - Technical Data Sheet.pdf Good luck! Edited June 5, 2023 by Haz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1004ron Posted June 6, 2023 Report Share Posted June 6, 2023 Thanks @Haz The thickness that I'm looking for is only available in white on McMaster. Is there any chance you have a Ford part number for the original tape? I could find some but not for the 2017 Edge: https://parts.lakelandford.com/p/Ford_2017_Edge/Spoiler-Seal/53047445/9T4Z78021A46A.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haz Posted June 6, 2023 Report Share Posted June 6, 2023 Ford gives you a free Spoiler if you buy this 2017 double-sided tape/weatherstrip... The 2017 Edge Workshop Manual provides this advice on reinstalling a Spoiler... I expect the less elaborate contour of the GEN 1 spoiler causes its separately sold OEM tape/weatherstrip to be shorter than the GEN 2 Spoiler requires, but at slightly over $4 each, I'd be tempted to order-in two GEN 1 tapes and hope for a perfect overlapping splice cut, just to see if it worked out... Good luck! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1004ron Posted June 13, 2023 Report Share Posted June 13, 2023 Received the Gen 1 seal today and its not suitable - its real narrow and adhesive on one side only. I got two seals - $16 incl postage. I might try this stuff on eBay. 2mm thick Size: 1” width x 50 feet long x 0.08” thickness https://www.ebay.com/itm/385653375215?hash=item59cabb80ef:g:cUMAAOSwy19keOMS&amdata=enc%3AAQAIAAAA4DEhuQlDKAbxIrwh7JZQdqagIdDb3leujxBFXVKr2ZF%2BUar2%2BzLKnAwMWidF9Zb4T55JqPqWbfyAXWOU9vAzCWLA0P0FOppJpmfxliPwS2lqAj4CUGb6UmGYUKQeYAGx6GlFI9dHrc8eaDDASHIiSZLrNYoOK66PlTk67thNusDWoZFUm0%2BFK7OOt5mRAd4Q7j9SgmuiYwkhG04JBcCnYSgvez4HFvGLnskRsawNPdlNm08RItgouR70iBe7YUe0LQFKEGm3QuBK58%2BNhxm3rvwUgw0u7NAcOnTuUuIe2nfw|tkp%3ABk9SR8bJx-uWYg I've stopped the rattle by prying it up a little and sliding in four pieces two inch long of the 3M mounting tape, but will redo the job when I find tape that I'm happy with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1004ron Posted June 28, 2023 Report Share Posted June 28, 2023 This is the tape to buy. LLPT Double Sided Foam Tape 1 Inches x 50 Ft Durable Adhesive Weatherproof for Fill Gaps Attach Bond and Mount Uneven Or Textured Surfaces (T004A) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomH Posted March 25 Report Share Posted March 25 Hello all! My daughters 2015 Ford Edge Titanium high mount third brake light lens fell off. All the red lights are still there and everything works, just the actual lens fell off. I hate to go through the cost of having to replace the whole dang unit just for the lens. Has anyone replaced just the actual lens? I looked and it is just a few tabs that hold it on. Anyone know or have experience with this? Thank you for any assistance! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeepwx03 Posted March 25 Report Share Posted March 25 When ours fell off in a carwash I noticed the gasket or seal that was around the lens was dry rotted or cracked so you'd need to make sure you get a seal in addition to replacing the lense otherwise you may end up with water shorting the LEDs out pretty quickly. The other concern would be finding just the lens since they only sell it as a whole unit. I purchased a new unit from Tasca, but the carwash ended up paying for it through my local dealer so I have the unit I bought on eBay if you're interested. https://www.ebay.com/itm/186000843539 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1004ron Posted March 25 Report Share Posted March 25 23 minutes ago, TomH said: Hello all! My daughters 2015 Ford Edge Titanium high mount third brake light lens fell off. All the red lights are still there and everything works, just the actual lens fell off. I hate to go through the cost of having to replace the whole dang unit just for the lens. Has anyone replaced just the actual lens? I looked and it is just a few tabs that hold it on. Anyone know or have experience with this? Thank you for any assistance! If you're looking for a long term fix, then the only option is replacement - see posts above where I indicate that the Dorman brand I installed was far superior to the original factory part. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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