Dulce

46 minutes ago, 2015Edge2015 said:

Have any of you guys just topped off the cooland when needed? How much worse can it get besides the initial rough idle at start up? Does it eventually poor coolant inside the cylinder ? Or just trickles inside forever?

I have ?… and it works fine. I have no plans in replacing my engine, just driving it till it drops. I have used the Kseal in coolant and has helped alot. I know its just a bandaid but I will continue to bandaid to keep it running. 
Note : 2016 Ford Edge current mileage 113k 

On 10/28/2021 at 8:48 AM, Dulce said:

2016 Ford edge 2.0 108k+ mileage falls under the (TSB 19-2346) and needs new engine block. 
- currently my car has shown no signs of over heating

- does have rough start 

- some coolant loss but not alot at once

- water noise 

I have decided to just keep driving it and just check coolant levels to make sure it doesn’t overheat? I will keep you guys posted see how long it last, wish me luck ??

Happy New Year Everyone ?,

 Mid November I added K-Seal to my coolant reservoir.

About a week after I poured the K -seal, the water noise pretty much resolved, my heater started working again and the engine light went off (disappeared/ not on anymore). 

I still have coolant loss about the same amount. I had one incident were car did not want to turn on at all.Turned ac/heater off and yup car turned on (no problem since then even with heater/ac on).
Had two incidents were thermostat suddenly jump to  overheat car alarm when off. Pulled over, turned off car no smoke or sign of it over heating coolant level was good. Turned car back on almost immediately and back to normal like nothing , drove it home 200+miles. 
Still has a slight rough start at times, still fill up coolant every so often depending how far I drive. It seems it only resolved the water noise and engine light turned off. 
Does it work ???…… I don’t really know lol !!

2016 Ford edge 2.0 108k+ mileage falls under the (TSB 19-2346) and needs new engine block. 
- currently my car has shown no signs of over heating

- does have rough start 

- some coolant loss but not alot at once

- water noise 

I have decided to just keep driving it and just check coolant levels to make sure it doesn’t overheat? I will keep you guys posted see how long it last, wish me luck ??

48 minutes ago, akirby said:

They are taking responsibility by fixing the problem under warranty and with a new block design.  What they’re not doing is extending the warranty to cover failures that happen after the 5 yr/60K powertrain warranty.   However, you also had the option to purchase an extended warranty and chose not to.

Yup, exactly!!!  Since I was responding to the question asking “ Has anyone had assistance from Ford when this failure occurred “outside the warranty mileage and period?“ ??….. In other words since my car is out of warranty Ford is not taking responsibility for it and I wouldn’t bother asking or expect any assistance from Ford. Hope thats a little more clear on what I ment.

On 5/24/2021 at 8:17 AM, 1004ron said:

Has anyone had assistance from Ford when this failure occurred outside the warranty mileage and period?

I’m not even bothering, from the sound of it Ford is not taking responsibility for problem. I wish everyone the best on this issue, really sad. But for a huge company like Ford, I’m sure they don’t care about the little guy. So this issue is not a priority to them meaning the loss is minimal to them. So sad ? 

On 9/14/2021 at 5:33 PM, Tcinci said:

Why isn’t this just a head gasket change? Or if it’s the head casting that’s micro racking the a head change. I don’t understand the block change. 

I asked the same question and was told that the cost for part + labor work to just change the gasket was high and wouldn’t guarantee a fix and will end up with double cost.??‍♀️

On 8/25/2021 at 5:07 PM, Tcinci said:

My 2016 Edge with 95k just started losing coolant. Like others no sign of an external leak.  Losing about 5-6oz per day.  I’ve been watching it since I first read about this problem last year.  Guess it’s my turn.  Anyway, has anyone tried Blue Devil head gasket sealer?  I used that on an old Mazda3 head gasket leak with good results.  I’m thinking to try it here too.  

I’m sorry you are also having the issue. But I have seen it on videos but I have not tried it. 

10 minutes ago, Dulce said:

Sorry, but do you mean that because it’s only recommending something it doesn’t mean it needs it? Sorry just trying to understand.

I see, you were responding to cbaker732 About gas usage. 

4 hours ago, 1004ron said:

Recommended is very different to "specifies" - main reason being that using anything less than the recommended cannot be a factor when deciding a warranty claim.

Sorry, but do you mean that because it’s only recommending something it doesn’t mean it needs it? Sorry just trying to understand.

12 hours ago, cbaker732 said:

What type of gas do you use if you have had a coolant leak in the 2.0 L ecoboost engine, 2nd generation? A class action lawsuit filed claims the seals and engine were not designed correctly, causing a coolant leak that requires a total engine replacement to fix. Ford specifies high octane fuel for the engine. If you had a coolant leak, did you use only high octane fuel or did you use regular routinely? 

I have always used regular gas (87). I don’t have visible coolant leak, but if coolant (water) in cylinders and loss of coolant is considered a form of leak, then yes there is a leak. 

4 hours ago, 1004ron said:

My work associate had his replaced by a good indy shop, who bought the new long block from Ford and it came to around $4,500 for the whole job, with no help from Ford.

 

I suggest that we merge this with the existing thread on the issue.

So now that I’m little more calm and not running like “a chicken without a head” I was reading everything carefully and a little confused in regards to the term “ long block engine” v “engine”. So do I not need a whole new engine or only the long block engine or are they the same thing? Sorry, just confused on whats what and what will definitely fix the issue? 

56 minutes ago, WWWPerfA_ZN0W said:

sorry amigo.  this has been bad news for many many members on our FB pages as well   Ford corporate to date has helped cover some/most of the bill in some cases tho, when the mileage is reasonable.  I would apply to them for assistance, the dealer may provide support in this regard, ask them.  The numbers (%ages) may not support it, but we would like to see at least a Customer Satisfaction Program bulletin issued on it.

I will take all the help I can get. I still owe $14k on my car loan so seen it’s going to cost me about $8k or more (I’m just guessing I don’t really know the price) really hurts. At this point I guess taking out a loan to get new engine ?. Thank you all for your kindness and time to share your thoughts. This is awesome ? 

10 hours ago, WWWPerfA_ZN0W said:

since you have a gen 2 with a 2.0, i would make sure a coolant intrusion issue is not in progress.

 

check coolant level regularly, should pretty much hold steady with engine off and at ambient.

 

if the CEL ever flashes, you may be looking at a block replacement in the future.  Ford has issued a TSB for this issue

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jBJQQtJ635aSGsMyyFRKCFyFNNo1KnNw/view?usp=sharing

I just opened the link… going to read it. I’m so stressed. I can’t believe just 5 yrs old and it needs new engine. I kept it well maintained and just put over $400 on maintenance 

So I was just advised I need a whole new engine. They said water in cylinders due to possible gasket broken/cracked and it’s recommended to get a whole new engine due to cost of just replacing the gasket and having issues later requiring new engine. ?

2.0 Engine size 

yes we believe it’s possible air in cooling system but with no luck to take air out. 

Help!!…. My 16 Ford edge is driving me nuts!!!….. water noise when I turn car on and idling,  during  acceleration (while on park), during driving (streets, up hill, down hill, coming to a stop) not so much when on freeway. Currently No other symptoms (no over heating, no coolant loss/leaks, ac/heater working) I have had 3different mechanics look at it, I had thermostat replaced(due to coolant backflow /replacement resolved that)  radiator cap replaced (just incase), cooling system burped/bled, AC drain checked for clog( was advice no clog). Nothing has helped with loud annoying water noise. Sound of Water rushing through.

** I noticed it all after coolant flush**
i don’t know if i should have the coolant flushed again or what to do. I’m out of ideas ?