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Do they make these in rubber ?

Where site sells these ?

Got mine at autoanything.com

http://www.autoanything.com/floor-mats/10A50185.aspx

There are different brands that are rubber.

WHERE DID YOU BUY THIS?

Hmmmm...quick Google of the screen name "raingler" came up with this....

http://www.raingler.com/

"The original Jeep, SUV and truck cargo nets and grab handles"....

And look...they make one specific for the Edge.....

http://www.raingler.com/merch88ford.htm

Interesting first post......

I purchased a Ford Edge cargo mat. I ended up giving it back. For $100 I thought it would not be a cheap flimsy piece or crap. Anyone have any suggestions where I could find a nice quality rubber cargo mat for the 2010 Edge. The factory one is unacceptable and overpriced.

I went with the Lloyds Rubbertite mat for the rear of my Edge.

Here's a link to the topic I posted along with some pics. I've been very pleased with the cargo mat.

http://www.fordedgeforum.com/index.php?/topic/5042-cargo-mat-installed-lloyd-rubbertite-brand-2010-camel-interior/

As soon as the Minister of Finance approves the trailer I want, I will be. Right now I am looking at a Heartland Edge ( 27ft long ). It comes in at #3800 dry. Besides myself, there is one other that I know of on here who has a trailer that has to be near that amount or over. Can't remember who it is though ...

 

The bottom line is set-up. I don't have the factory hitch. I have a Curt that is rated for #4000 (#400 tongue ). I will be reinforcing it to reduce torsional loads ( which I am sure will make the Edge happier ). I will have a weight distribution hitch, but haven't decided on which one. If you do the math, the edge is capable of towing a near #9000 trailer whether you believe it or not. That is staying withing the axle rating, tongue load and even the tires capacity. Even factoring the angines torque and gear ratios ( which are less than ideal ). That said, even I won't be silly enough to attempt that feat.

 

If you want an idea of how a simple thing in the set-up can make your life better, try this: Shorten your drawbar. Instead of using the hole they gave you, push it in all the way and mark and re-drill. Then try shimming your drawbar so there isn't any slop when it is pinned in place. You won't believe how those two simple things can make a big difference.

Interesting analysis.

You mention the "bottom line is set-up". You discuss many things about pulling a trailer "over" the rated capacity of the vehicle, but you NEVER metion any kind of "braking" in your discussion of set-up. No mention of adding a brake controller and setup for adding control. I feel very safe in saying almost all accidents involving towing are caused by the TOW VEHICLE being unable to CONTROL THE TRAILER in a "panic" STOP.

I make this statement with over 20 years of towing experience using properly equipped trucks (from 1/2 ton to 1 ton models) pulling everything from utility trailers, boats, travel trailers, 5th wheels, farm equipment. BRAKES are the most important piece of equipment on ANY tow vehicle/trailer combination.

You also mention the trailer is 3,800# dry. Imagine you will add some "things" to it - luggage, coolers, food, bikes, chairs, water (holding tanks maybe?) - typical stuff you might take on a trip. Probably add another 400 to 800#'s. Also, you need to consider what you have in the tow vehicle and subtract that from the vehicle rated "towing capacity". Carrying a two or three people? Maybe some more luggage and stuff? What about a full tank of gas? Probably another 500#'s or so. So add another 500# (in the trailer) and 500# (driver and other "stuff" in the vehicle) you are now at least 4,800#'s - probably more....

Do I tow with my Edge? Nope - I have a truck to handle my towing needs.

I would imagine the "short" wheelbase of the Edge will not like being "pushed" around by a 27ft/3,800#++ travel trailer - even with the weight distribution hitch/sway bars. Puts alot of stress on a lightweight uni-body vehicle.

Another thing to consider.

Wonder what would happen if you were ever involved in an accident pulling a trailer over the rated capacity of the tow vehicle?

Insurance adjusters are pretty smart - they will look for reasons not to pay.

Lawyers are also looking for reasons to sue. Overloaded vehicle? You just gave them a pretty good case....Think about how you will look in front of a judge/jury when the "ambulance chaser" presents the facts.

Bottom line - if you really want (need) to tow, get the right vehicle for the job.

Don't overload your tow vehicle. Nothing good will come from it.

Good luck.

Thanks for the detailed list MOFSTEEL.....I'll run through it and see what I "didn't" get...It appears I got a well equipped SEL.

Regarding the stereo comment - 9 speakers vs 4 - Yes, there was a difference between the two - but in my opinion, it wasn't worth the "cost" of buying the Limited package to get it. I have basically the same stereo (4 speaker) in my 2007 F150 Lariat SuperCrew...It's been more than adequate for me IMO.

My SEL has everthing on the list you posted in one form or another with the exception of number.....

Number 4 - no seat memory

Number 11 - Audiophile stereo

Number 17 - 20" wheels.

I do like the look of the 20" wheels, but, in my opinion, the ride was "better" and there was less "noise" in the cabin with the 18" wheel/tire combination.

Looking at the rest of the packages....I don't have the "security approach lamps" or the additional chrome trim pieces on the exterior...

We did get the rest of the "good" stuff...the dual zone climate controls, leather, steering wheel controls, power everything, SYNC, reverse sensing, power liftgate, BAMR...

At the time we purchased (Using "A" plan pricing) the dealer had over 20 Edges on the lot (more Limited's than SEL's/SE's) - We found the SEL we bought and a Limited that was comparably equipped. When we ran the numbers with the dealer side by side, we were a little over $2K better buying the SEL over the Limited. The dealer was suprised at the difference also. Possibly some way the packages were priced? Maybe additional package discounts for my area (Texas) when the "A" plan pricing was applied? Don't really know why....but it was. Had the same rebates on both the SEL and Limited.

The dealer checked on other Limiteds on the lot and found the pricing to be the same on those.

Not trying to be argumentative, just sharing what I found when purchasing my Edge.

I have not purchased a new Ford since 1975. I am really considering a 2010 Edge. I can find SEL models with the 201 package with Vista Roof for about $2500 less than Limited models with, seemingly, the same options. Does anyone know what really is the major difference in the two models?

We went through the same discussion at my house on the SEL vs Limited.

Ended up with an SEL that was very closely equipped to a Limited - and saved a little more than $2K in the process.

The differences between the models we looked at were

"upgraded" stereo - which didn't seem "significant" to us listening to them side by side

20" wheels/tires - I kinda like the 18" we have on the SEL. Ride is a little better IMHO - more sidewall....

2 position memory seats

Some added "trim" pieces....

DIdn't need/want the nav unit (at least not for the extra $$$$)

I just installed these mats in my 2010 Edge. The fit very well and match the factory color exactly (as far as my eyes can tell). I got the one piece rear mat it is covers most of the rear floor. I got EDGE embrodied into each mat. The rear mat has the word EDGE in the middle of the whole mat.

 

They look good but are a little expensive. About $190 for the whole lot.

 

I may eventually get the rear cargo liner.

I ended up with the Lloyds mats also for the front and middle. For the rear I wanted a "rubber" style mat.

Picked up the Lloyd Rubbertite mat - been very happy with it - link to my post with pics.

http://www.fordedgeforum.com/index.php?/topic/5042-cargo-mat-installed-lloyd-rubbertite-brand-2010-camel-interior/

Would it be possible to take a picture of the Lloyds mat that covers the "dead area" The picture on their site and elsewhere does not show this feature.

Here's a link to the post I put up with more pics of the front and rear mats

http://www.fordedgeforum.com/index.php?/topic/5043-new-lloyd-ultimat-carpeted-mats-installed-camel-interior/

Make sure the trailer has electric brakes and you set the Edge up with a good brake controller for the trailer.

The biggest issue with towing anything is the ability to STOP it in a controlled manner in a panic situation.

Regarding brake controllers, don't buy a cheap one. A good, proportional controller doesn't cost much more. Personally, I've used the Tekonsha Prodigy in my trucks for many years pulling boats, travel trailers, horse trailers, etc.....

Link to Tekonsha website

http://www.tekonsha.com/product/details.asp?ProdID=90885&cat=1435

Here's a link to a place I've purchased from in the past - I've had good luck with them.

http://www.pplmotorhomes.com/parts/rv-hitches/prodigy-brake-controllers.htm

Howdy and welcome.

I wouldn't expect the "tow package" to materially affect your gas mileage - not on a vehicle like the Edge.

Hi,

 

Anyone had positive experiences with an exterior and interior protective sealant called Resist All that you buy from and is applied to your vehicle by the dealer? My dealer has offered me this sealant complimentary on the paint and leather upholstery of my 2010 Edge Limited. I'm told that I won't have to wax the car again and that it protects the paint from things such as bird droppings and tree sap and protects the upholstery from all kinds of spills and stains. Of course, I'm happy to accept this free treatment! Just interested in hearing about anyone's good experiences with the Resist All product. Thanks. :yup:

X2 on the "snake oil".

I wouldn't trust the dealer (or anyone for that matter...) to apply a "lifetime" paint or fabric protectant. I could see more harm than good coming from application of some "miracle" liquid...

If you drive your car in the real world, you will need to pay attention to the finish/paint at some time.

If it was really so great, why wouldn't Ford offer to put it on the vehicles from the factory and use that at a selling point??

Howdy and welcome from Cypress, Texas!

Cool - thanks for sharing. Good to see the mileage #'s were about the same.

I would like to get up to the mountains of Colorado someday...

I'll add my $0.02 and real life experience with Ford's "Chrome Clad" wheels.

My previous truck (2001 F150 Supercrew Lariat) had the Ford factory "chrome clad" wheels.

I drove the truck for over 8 years and put over 160,000 miles on the truck. Here is a "for sale" pic of the truck with the "chrome clad" wheels at the time of the sale. The wheels held up pretty good for 8 years/160,000 miles and 4 sets of tires. I had one small "tear" in the cladding from something I hit on one of the roads at the deer lease. Otherwise, they looked about the same as the day I drove it off the lot new.

No complaints here.

I would expect the "chrome clad" wheels on the Edge to hold up as well...

Heat is the biggest killer of transmission fluid....

IN my opinion, as long as you didn't overheat/drive like a bat out of hell when towing, you should be fine.

As akirby said, I'd do the 30 or 60K service - cheap insurance.

My Edge is FWD - don't have a need for AWD in Houston - No snow or ice....and if it did snow in Houston, the last place I want to be is on the road with all the idiots down here....

Took the first road trip in the 2010 Edge 2,000 mile round trip from Houston, Texas to Orlando, FL. Wanted to share my impressions with yall.

A little background. The Edge is my spouses vehicle we purchased the Edge (May 2010) to replace a 2004 Honda Odyssey EXL minivan that my spouse has driven since new. The vehicle I drive everyday is a 2007 Ford F150 SuperCrew. Ive owned a few Ford trucks over the past 10+ years. The Edge will be driven primarily by my spouse around town (Houston).

This was a family road trip 4 people (2 adults, 2 teenagers) taking 10 days away from home (NOT the Griswolds heading out to Wally World …). We planned the trip to take 2 days each way a stop somewhere in the middle on each leg of the trip.

My overall impressions The Edge is a nice, comfortable cruiser on the highway. Was easily able to drive 3 hour +/- stretches between stops. Seats are firm and supportive. Never had any pain/discomfort in my back or legs (Im 6-1). No complaints from the wife (shes 5-2). The seats were nice as either driver or passenger for both of us. We could find a comfortable position in either seat. The kids found other things to complain about in the back didnt seem to whine about being uncomfortable. Cabin is quiet enjoyed the uninterrupted Sirius radio coverage.

Plenty of power to pass around slower moving traffic (Semis, buses, motorhomes, etc). Not a lot of wind buffeting. Transmission shifted smoothly. Nice and quiet at highway speeds.

Mileage: I was happy with the mileage on the trip. I calculated the mileage at each fillup (NOT using the trip computer). Ranged from a low of 21.6 MPG to a high of just short of 23 MPG. Most of the time on the highway was between 75 and 80 MPH (maybe a little higher...), running the AC (ambient temp of 90 deg F+++), with 4 passengers and a full load of luggage. Not bad figure it will get a little better with a few more miles on it.

Luggage room was a little tight (Im use to having more space in the minivan or my F150…) but we were able to take 10 days worth of stuff comfortably (2 adults, 2 teens) in the Edge. I realize I was giving up space moving from the minivan…just need to plan a little better and pack smarter.

The Edge is a good fit for our family at this time in our lives. Enough room for the 4 of us, well equipped and comfortable. Im satisfied with my purchase.

I don't understand your comment about applying the brakes?

The brakes don't have anything to do with the speed control volume settings...

The speed volume feature basically adjust the volume to compensate for road/wind noise at conditions other than "stop".

Depending on the setting, it increases the volume as "other" noise increases.

Set correctly, it's pretty seamless - you don't really notice the change.

Dont' have the manual in front of me...so I 'm going from memory...

Scroll thru the menu to the speed control settings - adjust the setting (I believe it's the volume knob?...)

I run the Edge at "3"....as well as my 2007 F150.

The higher settings are a little too sensitive IMO - kinda like a 3 year old playing with the knob.

I've found setting 3 to be good on both my Edge and truck.

These towing posts always crack me up...

The big question is always "how much power does it have?".... An obvious question from someone who doesn't pull a trailer very much.

How many times have you heard someone say "I couldn't avoid the accident while pulling my trailer because I didn't have enough POWER..."?

Never.

The issue with towing is the tow vehicle's ability to STOP

Engine power is important, but the ability to CONTROL and STOP the vehicle and trailer in an emergency situation is far more important that the ability to pull it "fast".

The "shorter" wheelbase of many of the crossover vehicles and lighter duty brakes (to save $ and help in fuel economy) don't make these vehicles good towing platforms. Yes, they will pull a properly set up light trailer, but most of the time people tend to "overload" their setups.

Sorry.....I'll get off my soapbox now...

UPDATE: 25 June 2010

Got a chance to drive the Edge for a few days on the highway - The noise started to appear around 60 MPH+.

Confirmed what cdowdthedrummer posted (thanks!)

The "splash shield" inside the wheel well was a little "loose". It's held in place with some plastic push grommet things. Couldn't figure out a way to "tighten" them up while on the road, so I stopped in a dollar store and picked up a package of kitchen sponges. Squeezed one behind the splash guard and wheel well to keep the splash shield from "moving".

Noise stopped. Edge is quiet as a church.

Will have the dealer look at it next time I take it in.

Thanks for the help!

Howdy from Cypress Texas!

I'm a little late to the discussion...

Something to consider - how about just removing the "resonators" and installing a section of pipe in its place?

The reason for "multiple" mufflers is the restriction on "real estate" to install parts under the vehicle. I'm sure there are some "corporate" limits for exhaust "volume" - the second set of resonators are often installed to address lowering the exhaust "tone"....

I'll bet a muffler shop would cut out the "resonators" and install a section of pipe for under $100.

Keep the "resonators" and have them reinstalled if you don't like the new "tone".

Okay, I have an update. I emailed another member on here and they told me what the dealer found on their car. Seemed to be the plastic under the wheel well that is clipped in was a little loose. Well I had some foam material that I temporarily put behind the plastic in the wheel well near the clips and it stopped the noise. It did sound like it was coming from the windshield area, but it was the wheel well plastic. The clips werejust lose enough to cause this rattle. There is no way to tighten the exisiting clips so I am assuming they will use different ones or put a rubber gromet behind each clip. We'll see I guess. I am going to the dealer tomorrow, Thursday, so I will post the fix. Thank you everyone for all of your input.

COOL!

I'll bet that is the noise I'm hearing....it makes sense.

Had a similar noise issue with my 2001 F150. Ended up being the Ford accessory front splash guard - one of the plastic "rivits" was loose causing a hard to find noise up front.

Will go push around the fender well plastic next time I see the Edge.

Thanks!

Make sure it's not just a loose sun visor. Happens to me all the time and every time I think the rattle is coming from somewhere else, then I remember to check the visor.

I'll give the visor a check - But I don't think it's from the visor.

The noise seems to be affected by "wind"/"direction"/"speed"....

I can drive one way on the highway at speed (wind quartering into the front of the Edge) - it makes the noise.

When I turn around and drive the opposite direction on the highway, I can't seem to make it produce the noise at the same speed...

Might try some experiments with tape on the exterior moldings...

I also have a new 2010 Edge SEL with a rattle coming from the front passenger side.

Don't notice it until you drive on the highway (65 MPH +). Obviously something affected by the wind across the hood/windshield.

Going to spend a few days on the highway - will get my spouse to drive while I push/pull/knock around to see if I can locate it.

It's a kinda odd noise - thinking there might be something in the A pillar - or maybe a piece of moulding/panel by the wipers that may have come loose.

Will let y'all know what I come up with by the end of the month.

Stay tuned! SW