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attached is the unit he replaced with the one I sold to him. So he should only need aim programming yeah? the unit has not been modified with forscan, as I pulled it cleanly from my edge.

the buyer has a 2011 explorer- he wants to return the unit i sold him saying that its incompatible. it just needs programming right? should i sent a return? the unit worked perfect when i pulled it from my vehicle

​Hi all,

I sold a fully-functional MFT apim+screen combo after I successfully installed the Sync 3 equipment, and the guy who bought it is saying the GPS is not catching any signal at all. Similar to the Sync 3 apims, is there some kind of antenna that needs to be bought and installed? Just want to make sure I help my buyer out as much as possible.

Thanks all!

https://www.proclipusa.com/device/phone-holders/apple-iphone-x

Im probably gonna cop one of these - seems like the best thing out there for a simple mount+data sync solution.

Its my pleasure to help. Do you have any other USB devices connected at the same time?

 

I find that (at times) I have to make sure my phone is the only thing connected.

Hey Candurin. I have not had any other devices connected at all while operating Waze - I do need to test that.

UPDATE: WAZE WORKING ON SYNC 3 (MFT to Sync 3 Hardware Conversion) --- See below description:

Did you update SYNC 3 to version 3.0?

Candurin- Yes, 3.0.18093 installed properly. Thanks for your help, man! You're a great contributor on this forum.

Below is my most recent feedback email to Waze's Beta support team, describing my working Waze+Sync 3 combo:

"This morning, Waze worked for me on my commute without a problem. As it is currently a known issue, the app is a little laggy, processing at low frames per second on my Sync 3 system. Outside of the slight lag issue, the app worked perfectly on my Sync 3 AppLink system in my 2015 Ford Edge Titanium. The vehicle was not originally equipped with Sync 3 capable hardware, but I installed it myself. The current known settings and specifications for my working system are below:

I modified the as-built using Forscan, with everything updating correctly to match each specification of my vehicle. Still no joy with Waze - any ideas? CarPlay works, even though I don't use it lol

Candurin, just tried that and no luck. Should I seek a different sync 3 build?

The APIM was pre-programmed with everything my car has available, so I didnt program the as-built data to it (yet)would that make a difference? Alexa and Accuwether work fine in applink, just waze is hanging on waiting for device

MFT to Sync 3 conversion complete, update to Sync 3 (build 18025), CarPlay and everything working. However, Waze hanging on "Waiting for Device" and will not advance past this point.

Any ideas?

Having issues with getting power to the new sync 3 usb hub. Can I just tap the power into the cigarette lighter? Or does anyone know exactly which wires from the existing connector I need to tap into?

Hi candurin, thanks for the help. I asked the seller to send me the product number, and they said the unit they sent should be 18b955-sc

I may get extraordinarily lucky, all things considered. If it is the right screen, I will have the whole job done, all materials included, for under 500 bucks. Fingers crossed!!

If I I have to get mounts for the touchscreen I purchased, where do I get the mounting brackets for a 2015 Edge doing the sync 3 conversion? Ive looked everywhere and Im coming up empty handed.

Look at the touchscreen shown in this ebay listing, can anyone tell me if Ill need to find mounting brackets for the APIM, and wher is I can get them?

Candurin, thanks for the heads up. I had the seller send a video of the screen and APIM being operated to confirm the version. Navigation confirmed US- making out of this like a bandit for the whole deal.

No worries, Okie. I appreciate your help and insight thus far- its nice of you to help out a new owner while I get the hang of all this!

Any direction I should go in order to get the brackets I need?

Update: the seller ended up offering to sell me touchscreen+apim for $310 so I'd remove my nasty review/feedback. Very excited for that to come in.

Okie, you're the one who 3D printed the brackets right? How much would you charge for me to get some from you?

I was notified that they made a mistake in the listing and asked them to honor my purchase. They since changed the listing to not include the APIM module. The seller than proceeded to tell me I thought you Americans were righteous and upright before doing foreign trade

So that went well.

FORD LINCOLN MYFORD TOUCH SYNC 3 TOUCH SCREEN 8%22 navigation screen | eBay.pdf

VERY helpful write-up, I appreciate you taking the time to help me out. I think I found a deal on one with Nav and a screen for 374, which I started a thread for with the link to the seller's listing on eBay. he had 10, and I got the first one!

So Edgy,

 

You will also need a GPS antenna for Nav or compass and a pigtail or an adapter to supply power to your USB hub.

 

Overview and differences in APIMs:

I've done two Sync 2 to Sync 3 conversions (My 2013 F150 last year and my sons 2011 Edge last week). APIMs at least 2016 models that have the 2nd to last letter with a C or K are navigation models, 2017 2nd to last with a C is navigation. All others I've seen which with a B,D, or F 2nd to last letters are non-navigation but this may vary. Best to pick one that shows the unit powered up at some point or gives you the VIN of the vehicle it came from so you can check its As built data to see if it had Nav or find the window sticker for it online to see if it did.

Screen and APIM assemblies that end with SB are the flat sided and those with SC are stepped or indented. I'm unsure of which model the 2015 uses but you can tell by looking at your Sync 2 screen with the bezel removed. The 2011 had the stepped screen. I used a SB assembly so had to 3D print some brackets to fit. My post is on the forum

 

Configuration:

Once you install the screen you will most likely need to program it to work with your vehicle. There is a free Windows program called Forscan. You can use it with a wired or bluetooth OBD2 dongle to program the options you have. People generally look up the "As Built" information of a vehicle that originally came with Sync 3 that has the same or as close as possible options as your vehicle. From there you can look at the Sync 3 spreadsheet on the F150 forums to tweak as needed. Since yours is a 2015 a similarly specified 2016 vehicle will probably work.

 

Updating:

Updates have to be for the correct type of APIM you have so Nav or non-nav. The difference between the two are the amount of storage space on the APIM. If you try to install a NAV update on a Non-Nav APIM it will hang once it fills up the storage space (since it doesn't delete old data until the end) and no longer boot to the user interface. There are ways to recover from this with a modified install file but the best bet is to make sure you are updating with the right file. I used a VIN from a wrecked explorer that had nav to get my updates from ford. I updated form 2.2 to 2.3 to 3.0 on the F150 and 2.3 to 3.0 on the Edge using the same USB stick. This might not always work however as there have been recent hardware changes to the 2018 version of the APIMs. As long as it matches for the APIM year and type you have you should be okay.

Random stuff:

There is a current modder group working on additional changes to the Sync system. I know they've gotten Nav to work on Non-Nav units and customized the splash screen and background. I typically stay away from this since you are always dependent on said modders for updates. Honestly even though my APIMs are both Nav I never use the factory nav. I use Android Auto all the time. Once Waze does the update to use it directly on the GUI (hopefully this month or next) I see no reason why anyone would use the factory navigation maps unless they were in an area without an internet connection. There's also Sygic support too but I've never used it so can't speak on it.

 

Cost:

You can sometimes find non-nav screens and APIMs for around the $300-$400. Nav screens generally go around $500+. You can find ones for less sometimes if you are lucky. I bought both of mine with APIM and screen together. If i would have bought them separately it would have cost me around $200 more.

 

Sync 3 vs Sync 2

No comparison here. I originally did my 2013 due to the lag of clicking an option to when that option was performed. It drove me insane. The screen is better and the layout and app support is better. Android Auto and Carplay is just the icing on the cake.

 

 

Good luck Hopefully this helps.

 

-Deric

 

note: edited to clarify APIM nav/non-navs I've seen.

 

Its ebay guaranteed (get what you ordered, or money back guaranteed) so I went ahead and got one. People are watching though, so move quick!

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F232731306548

I realized that, thank you for confirming. I cancelled the order and ordered this one https://www.ebay.com/itm/FOR-FORD-F150-PICKUP-2107880-16-17-RADIO-INFO-DISPLAY-SCREEN/352327024969?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649

Will this apim+screen work?

Hi all,

I found an APIM module and touchscreen from a 2016 explorer (APIM# db5t-14f239-ar, Touchscreen# db5t-18b955-FC) and wanted to see if y'all could confirm that these units will work for my 2015 Edge Titanium conversion. I also wanted to see if anyone knows if this APIM has the nav built-in.

Thanks y'all

https://www.ebay.com/itm/332546105022(link to the unit I bought)

H2GT-14G370-FCD -- 2017 Edge

HB5T-14G370-FCD -- 2017 Explorer

HA1T-14G370-FBD -- 2017 MKX

these are some APIM's I found on the internet. From what I can see, it looks like they are Sync 3 with Nav. Does anyone know of a way to get a hard yes or no on confirming an APIM module by the number?

Thanks!

Found one numbered #DS7-T14F239-CJ from a Ford Mondeo, manufacture date 9-25-15

Looks like its in Europe. Will it work or do I have to find an APIM from a US model vehicle? What all apims and screens are compatible? Trying to upgrade MFT on a 2015 Edge Titanium on a budget

Thanks

Hi all,

(Pardon me if this is not in proper forum etiquette, Ive dug around the forum and internet and havent been able to find concrete answers on this)

Im new to the forum and relatively new to my vehicle, and Im hoping to get some precise info on a project I want to start. I have a 2015 Edge Titanium with integrated Nav, and I want to replace the MyFord Touch with the necessary hardware to:

- Add Sync 3 compatibility

- retain all current integration with MyFord Touch (I.e.: steering wheel controls, instrument cluster integration, etc)

My current research concludes that I will need to source the following:

- a touchscreen/info display from a 2016+ Edge

- a Sync 3 APIM module with Nav (vehicle specific?)

- Sync 3/CarPlay compatible USB hub

Are there any other specific parts I will need in order to retain all functionality, while adding Sync 3?

Thanks, and looking forward to learning more from the community here.