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Just checking in on how things were progressing.  Nice work Xtra!

On 8/12/2021 at 2:34 PM, thecolin85 said:

great question, I would assume so. I'm currently on the hunt for a thicker aftermarket sway bar solution for my '19 SEL 2.0....

The 15-18 platform has the ADDCO 1.125" bar, PN 2452.  "The ADDCO bar will have two holes, soft and hard setting. Soft will be 36% stiffer that stock and hard is 62% stiffer the bar will be slightly larger than the stock but is solid bar and a stiffer steel".  Should work on the 19+ also as the chassis itself has not changed.

10 hours ago, onyxbfly said:

 

Would you be open to crowd funding? It doesn't have to be any like a gofundme page etc. I can't speak for every member but I feel that I can honestly say that you're working for the collective good of the community!  I would donate! Perhaps I'm alone in this but you may be pleasantly surprised if the option is available! Just a thought!

I would too!

2 hours ago, Xtra said:

Oops I thought I  had 

erased that. Exactly for the reasons that you stated. And I did not want it to sound like an advertisement . It is just my  hypothesis on what I think it does and how it works

. I posted it because I have been asked so many  times what does it do? . And I’m glad you like the way it looks. ?

The principle with NA cars is to reduce pressure drops along every link in the intake supply chain to help VE into the piston.  Colin & Dad showed that with the bigger airbox and extra feed the fuel needed (lbs) increased and the tune was adjusted (90% sure that's correct!)  Theory is now the turbos didn't need to work as hard to draw in the air and operated better in the efficiency island, FWIW, that's my take on it.  I wish I wasn't overworked and could tinker more with this intake supply with you! ?

Those with data logging capability will have to track airbox intake temps to see it it helps.  Better would be pressure drop before and after.  Anyway, I'm just glad to help the cause!

16 hours ago, Xtra said:

The first round of V2 intakes should be arriving as I shipped them last week. I am holding my breath for someone to post some photos and find out if there are any hiccups. Please be kind as I am trying and this is my first attempt at anything like this. If there is positive feedback it will encourage me to attempt an air box  to complete a high performance CAI system . 

Hey Xtra,

I received mine yesterday and installed this morning.  Comments: 

1) Hole alignment on the far right hole is off. 

2) Hood bumper hole on the right side is also a tad off but did not interfere when push past it.

3) Trimming on the left side was a bit aggressive.

4) The new rivet press pins were still too short, I had to press down on it and only could use one of them, used the old ones with better success in them grabbing.  Looks as if they needed to be about 1/4" longer.

Let me know if you have any questions or comments.  Thanks.

Let's add the Ridetech Delrin Lined Sway Bar Mounts to get rid of the squeaks others have experienced with the ADDCO supplied bushings, PN 11009255.
Delrin Lined Sway Bar Mounts - Ridetech

20 hours ago, Xtra said:

 

Xtra, I just got caught up on all of this, this rocks! I am interested in a black unit.  Please send me a PM.  Thanks.

2 hours ago, 97novi2k said:

Ouch, I was able to order the ADDCO sway bar but it won’t be made and shipped until October 29th ?......no choice but to wait

Were you able to get the recent FaceBook group buy price 20% off?  We won't be getting ours until Oct either!

On 7/10/2019 at 8:40 AM, mrmikesdeuce said:

Jamie

  I live south of you in Syracuse and I'm just curious where is the dragstrip up your way. We have ESTA in our area, but I wasn't aware of any tracks up in Watertown.

On 7/10/2019 at 1:43 PM, jamie1073 said:

 

Well you see there really isn't one.  That is a back road that is long and straight and for the most part flat.  At 7 am there is literally no one ever on it.  I do more 0-60 runs on it since going a full 1/4 run is obviously braking the law just a hair. 

I grew up in North Syracuse and my wife is from Watertown.  We have a cottage in Sackets Harbor.  I spent many a Sundays at ESTA growing up as some of my friends had 440 Roadrunners, 383 Superbees, 340 Cuda's!  And yes there are no shortage of long flat roads in various surface condition in upper upstate NY!  Hopefully someday we all can do a meetup at ESTA.  I'm looking forward to giving my friend with a pristine 1970 454 SS a run at ESTA, he can't hookup at all!

28 minutes ago, CRJ said:

On the first page of this thread, there is a picture of a silver Edge with aftermartket calipers and rotors. Could someone help me find out more about these, or piont me in the direction of the owner of that Edge? I'd like to do the same to my 18 Sport. 

4th post from the bottom of page 1 he states that they are Rotora brakes. See: http://www.rotora.com/street-challenge/

When in doubt always refer to this thread:

2 hours ago, snmjim said:

- Those are two resonators (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01C63YQSU/ref=cm_sw_r_em_apa_i_Bas9Cb0YFHJWP) commonly called back in our hot rod days as glass packs, thrush mufflers or cherry bombs. We elected to go with the two resonators to mitigate droning without increasing restriction. However, to maintain the sleeper concept we went with retaining the stock muffler which is steadily blowing out due to the added Turbo pressure and ironically the resulting tone is one we've decided to stay with...

BIG NOTE: we made it possible to have the entire system reproducible from the down pipes back to the tail pipes without needing the car so they are available to order and shipping to your front door. Your flavors are 2.5" downpipes into the stock exhaust system or 2.5" downpipes with a 2.5" exhaust system to the tail pipe or any variation there of, after all he is a custom fabricator...

snmjim,

Since the system has an X pipe and separate resonators, why not just use a Magnaflow resonator with built-in X pipe such as the 12468 (18”) or shorter 11386 (14”) ?  Seems like it would have simplified the fabrication.

23 hours ago, Sage said:

I had read that the ST bar is different than the Sport, but not sure.

18 hours ago, Perblue said:

 

I did too. I'm trying to find it in my spare time. I can't recall size but i know they are supposed to be solid.

Sure it may be "different" but the platform/suspension geometry has not changed.  

The following is from an Autoweek ST article. It says the rear ASB is hollow, but thicker (vs standard Edge, wish it was compared to the Sport's suspension).

"Naturally, the standard Edge suspension is retuned for the ST...Spring rates increase 10 percent in front, and the standard hollow stabilizer bar is replaced with a larger diameter -- and solid -- bar. In back, the standard twin-tube shocks are replaced with mono-tubes. The sway bar (still hollow) is thicker, and spring rates increase 20 percent."

On 5/5/2019 at 6:21 PM, Sage said:

 I do not believe anyone makes a larger sway bar, but does anyone know what size the bar is in the 19 ST?  

 

Thanks

Perhaps the Sport's aftermarket bar will work as from what I read there are no dimensional changes in the platform, just some different components used. Sport's rear bar is 24.7mm, the ADDCO unit is 28.7 mm and has two holes for soft and hard settings. "Soft will be 36% stiffer that stock and hard is 62% stiffer the bar will be slightly larger than the stock but is solid bar and a stiffer steel."

11 hours ago, snmjim said:

 

Can't be because I was the first & only one they attempted the 3" pipe with and couldn't get that far.

 

To my knowledge they haven't attempted another since.

Nick must have been a ball busting mood.  That pix he posted was for the Fusion Sport.. 
https://www.fusionsportforums.com/forum/225-fusion-v6-sport-performance/14130-3-stainless-steel-cat-less-downpipes.html

Well, it states "under development".  Don't see why it wouldn't work on the Sport AWD either.  I hope its bigger than 2.25" the 2015 FWD MF setup had.

Correct e is a cheap way to max out you timing and boost.my bad I assumed you had stock turbos. I can tell you from a friend who went big turbo on his 3.5 even the hpfp has to be custom made on top of Livernois extreme to keep up. Im shocked more people dont do secondary fueling like the rails for the RS and st. Even the ones that have two nozzles In the spacer. But thats very similar setup to meth.

If the FWD/AWD 2.7l platforms got some love in the aftermarket modification department, secondary fuel rail system would probably pop up. But reality is that it is not a popular mod platform/market as compared to the RWD 2.7l market of the F150. It's interesting that Ford didn't bother with the secondary port injection on the 2019 Edge ST that the 2.7l F150 now has.

Over on the FB 'Ford Edge Sport - Got Boost?' group, a tuner, Adam Staszak, posted 2 weeks ago stated that the HPFP on all the 2.7l engines are of the same capacity and that the calculations showed it can support E85, on a stock engine at least. Questions are can the tank LPFP support the HPFP at the max flow rates? Are the injector flow rates matched to HFPF to deliver at what is needed max pulse width? I don't think any Sport owner has stepped up yet to get a full E85 tune to confirm it with him.

Take off was smooth but I got wheel hop on the 1-2 shift you can hear it on the video in the car. It was my first time on a drag strip in 20 years so I was rusty with the launch and the lights. The car even broke the tires on the 3-4 shift just before the finish line and you can here that on the M4 phone video. I had good top end mph for hot 4000+DA day. I have a 60duro RMM, 21 inch Pilot Sport 4S summer tires.and H&R spoings.

Xtra, I'm not one that cares all that much for 0-60'(!) or judge strip results, more interested in rolling X to Y, top end, ability to take curves. What was your top end MPH?

Hope this turns into a good discussion!

What is needed are flow & PSI data for both sides of the system, including the injectors. Lots of questions to be answered for you guys running FBO + big turbos. I'm excited as by the time I pickup my used Sport next year this should be more advanced.

The following is from the Mustang6g EB forum in regards to Vargas' reply on their LPFP for the platform:

"TWO PUMPS, one feeding the other. Both have their flow limits, if the feed (LPFP) pump reaches its flow limit before the second pump, then the flow of the second pump is diminished. Fixing the feed pump flow limit does not raise the limit of the second pump, it just allows it to work at its full potential. Once you upgrade the feed pump so it does not run out of the flow, the next thing you run into is the flow limit of the SECOND (HPFP) pump. At that point you upgrade that pump, then run into other bottlenecks, injectors, etc, etc. In order to keep making more power, you need fuel. The LPFP is STEP ONE in removing the bottle necks for a proper flowing fuel system."

Hi guys,

 

Over the weekend I experienced this issue twice. Upon heavy acceleration the engine will stop accelerating (even with pedal buried) and the low oil pressure light will flash for a split second. If you ease back into the throttle it is fine but heavy acceleration again resulted in the same problem. No power loss of any other issues. I imagine it's a fail safe so you don't ruin the engine but no clue what's causing this. Anyone ran into this? Will be visiting the dealer in a couple days.

 

 

What is your build date? There is a TSB, 17-2235, that covers builds from April 2016 to Jan 2017.

See if your fits those dates: https://www.fordedgeforum.com/topic/23919-tsb-17-2235-2730l-oil-consumption-with-dtc-p0524-or-p06dd-rough-idle-misfire-or-white-or-blue-exhaust-smoke-4116-1117/

 

 

That is the raw data just several runs averaged out.

 

Nice data set Xtra! Were the numbers raw data or was a "correction factor" used to make them purty!?

Figured, had to ask. Need to find a Dynojet and get different set of dyno bragging numbers! Appears that a Dynojet would have you around 405-410 HP.

 

 

Here you go, and this is the average of several runs. A bit less than the max numbers I posted before. I will walk you through the chart...

Nice data set Xtra! Were the numbers raw data or was a "correction factor" used to make them purty!?

Scheduled dyno time for next Tuesday and have a tuner :happy feet: . I am taking to a performance shop best known for their indy cars. I am excited that J.R. Granatelli will be tuning the car. I will post results next week

You might remember this car Granatelli built a few years back . Granatelli.jpg

Looking forward to your results. Are you planning a non-tuned to full tuned run sequence?

How has it been without the tune? down any WOT runs are still holding it back?

 

This is good news as the PTU can and has had problems with heat in the past. I am happy that Ford knows this and has addressed the problem. Now if ford would only drop in the 3.0TT with 400+ HP and add a duel clutch transmission I would trade in my car pronto. As Ford is dropping cars and moving into Trucks, SUV and Crossovers it only makes sense to add performance to the crossover / hot hatch line of vehicles to stay competitive in this new market strategy.

Man too bad as I would entertain flying out to LA from FL with my wife to buy your ride and do a cross country road trip!!!

Cool. So when is the dyno session happening?!?

6F50/55 transmissions link (above link goes to 6f35) but only thru 2014, so will need to call directly i think. No telling what changes, if any, were made for the 2.7EB.

https://spprecision.com/products/6f50-6f55-transmission-sale.html

Yeah, looks like this is the unit for the Sport but need to confirm. Their build marries the 6f50 & 55 units, and since the 55 is in the 3.5l SHO it should be able to handle anything the future bring to the 2.7l for modifications if it is appicable!

Can't wait until next year when my current Cheby lease expires, prices are coming down on the '16's, found one for 24k with 40k miles by owner recently. Hoping to get one below 20k and have some fun building it.