Robert99

Ok so finally figured out what happened to our edge and it runs and drives now finally, so the remanned engine did not come with a trigger wheel for the crankshaft, which would explain why we had no RPM on the dash or computer and no spark, thanks for the help, the guide for the crankshaft system really helped to narrow it down, and that knowledge has helped me fix a couple other cars already too, we do have a mystery though, so how was it running off of starter fluid with no trigger wheel? That's what I dont get

That's what I'm wondering is what happened to the spark now? We aren't throwing parts at it we already put a new crank sensor in it and I took the 1 we had I'm there to check it and check the wiring and it was scratched up and had some metal on it, we cleaned it and cleaned out the bellhousing too, it was from the old starter failing, but im not sure what happened why there is no spark now, my boss had it running on starter fluid and then we pushed it in the shop and now no spark, I have checked fuses and relays again to double check all was good, checked wiring dont see anything messed up, so not sure but going to keep investigating

Well what we have now, we have fuel, the injectors are shooting fuel now, but still no spark, I just tried a new crank sensor (warrantied new 1 for a new 1) becaue there is no rpms in the computer or on the gauge and I checked all the wiring we have continuity and all the readings were inline with the tests so I'm not sure what to do next, going to keep trying a few things

The update so far, we have fuel now and it is acting like it wants to start but our starter just went out so we are going to get a new one and try again

yes it starts and runs smooth on started fluid, we have gone through several things already, inertia switch is not it, fuel pump is new, 60psi fuel pressure, fuses and relays are good, the injectors are not being commanded on, the computer has 0 codes but it just cranks and will not start, ive gone through all the wiring and connectors and grounds those are all good, it is a new crank sensor but the cam sensors are the 1s that came with the engine the company tests each part before they sell them so we have paper work that it runs, the problem is somewhere on the car its self, we did reconnect 1 ground when we were testing the crank sensor but i have not got to try and crank it again yet since we did that, i ran the tests shown in the diagnostic PDF's above and everything is good from those tests too, except a small amount of voltage on 1 of the tests when there should be none, was reading at most 0.3v, i was going to try and crank it when i get to work tomorrow and see if anything has changed, going to double check the timing, we have 1 of the big matco scanners all the live data is good, spark timing is normal too, the reason we thought the crank sensor too is the computer was not reading any RPM's, i have to verify if its reading that now since i messed with the sensor

It was running when the company that remaned it tested it, if you spray started fluid it will run off that and in the computer it says "crank fuelling- disabled" messed with a few things and going to see if it runs tommmorow, if we can't figure it out I'll look into timing

From a remanufactor company near me that does a bunch of different things motors, transmissions, etc..

Ok so had an accident that I had to fix 1st lol, dropped my 7mm and a extension between the motor and trans in the bell housing so had to get that out, had to take all the bolts out of the trans and pry it open and it fell out, but with the issue of it not starting we closed early today for the 4th so I will have to finish it and try to crank again tommorow, I ran through the list for diagnostics posted and everything passed except the crank and cam not synced, that's how I lost the socket in the 1st place trying to take the crank sensor out, the sensor was dirty I cleaned it and put it back because its a brand new one, then ran through the diag for the sensor circuit everything passed, the last part though checking for voltage in the harness there was 0.3v , and it says no voltage should be present on JD9

Thanks very much for all the info it helps alot, I'll be back in the shop on Friday trying the things listed and report back if it's fixed or not, this has helped up narrow it down alot

Thanks for the manual we are going to check over all of it, is there more to it? It says if crank and cam is not synced to go to "JD2" and that is not listed in the PDF, in our scan tool it shows that it is not synced

That's what I was reading too, so dosent seem like it will be the problem, hopefully fixing it will help some, the inertia switch is not reset though it is up and won't click down, if it's not then not sure what else to look for on the car to why it wont start

Thanks, hopefully it helps some, if not don't have many ideas on what else it is

Ahh gotcha thanks for the info I'm not too familiar with ford's, and we have it narrowed down the fuel sender had a open circuit I fixed that and we are wondering if it's the inertia switch now I'll add a picture of what our scanner shows, we have no codes at all on the system which is the weird part, but what I have shown in the picture is what is confusing us now, because I just went and checked every ground, connecter and wire and its all good, fuel pump is good and getting 60psi but the pcm is not firing the injectors for some reason, fuses and relays are also good

Gotcha thanks for the help, I'm not sure either if the pcm will work, im not a Ford expert I'll have to look into it, I was researching I thought that if there was a timing controller on each valve cover that it was a ti-vct or is it not that simple to tell? Both motors have the same wiring and everything hooked right up Motor is from a 08

That I am not sure of, the car ran and drove when it came in