EnemyAce

Just got my new C5 Y2K Deep Dish Rims for my baby, 2002 WS6 Trans Am.

You may have gotten one of the Edges that rolled off the assembly line in Columbia.

Definitely a dealer issue, it's usually a bad idea to attempt any sort of self service on the AC.

Just as many, if not more, agree with me.

Shall we poll the Germans? :devil:

 

Your statements as just as much opinion as mine and the writers of those articles. :kuko:

Everyone has a right to their own opinion. It's respecting the opinions of others that sets us apart.

I should have known you'd respond.

 

Comparing a Q5 to a Mkx?? Same result.

 

MkT to a Q7? I hope you're not serious.

 

You read too many Car & Driver magazines. Maybe you need to drive them all yourself before coming to a conclusion.

 

Better yet open your eyes and take a look at the two. I've driven all the vehicles we speak of and Audi comes out on top on fit and finish as far as im concerned.

 

 

Hard to believe it, but I actually agree with MOFSTEEL on this one, no comparing an Audi to ANY Ford or Lincoln.

However, there's no doubt that the quality gap has narrowed substantially over the last few years and I belive that the fit and finish of the 2011 Edge will be pretty damn good. Not to mention the purchase and maintenance costs will be much lower than an Audi. My Uncle always jokes about the $1000 tune up he seems to always pay for when he brings his in for service!

If money were no object, I'd be springing for the Audi or better. But face it, if money were no object, none of us would be discussing Ford to begin with.

Just ordered a 2011 Ltd. today (7/8/10). The dealer advised he expected delivery in 6-7 weeks. Excited to get it. Hope this forum helps me as I get used to the car in So. Calif. First US branded car I've owned in over 35 years (the quality back in the 70s was awful, I thought). Hope I'm not disappointed. It's up to you now FORD!

Felt the same way a year ago. I swore I'd never drive a Ford, EVER, and was on my way out to purchase a Toyota Sienna with my wife. After a test drive, we saw the new Flex's at the Ford dealer across the street and went over to take a look. A few weeks later we put the order in and have been loving it ever since. One of the best vehicles I've ever owned hands down.

Hoping you're experience is much the same. Good Luck and keep us posted as to when it comes in.

What did they do with the rebates? Typically they just replace the rebates with the employee pricing so the net result is almost the same.

Yup, rebates are gone, but for me this is much better since I'm paying cash and will not be financing or leasing. The %0 finance/lease rates are gone.

I was reading about the 2011 ford mustang v6 that got over 40mpg, and it sounds like the 300hp engine that will be used in the 2011 edge sport... Yes, AC was off, and constant speed, but still very impressive...

 

Can anyone else confirm this? If this is the case, this I'll be an awesome vehicle...

I haven't seen any claims of +40 mpg, that would be simply amazing. Most reviewers are pegging the mileage in the low 30's, which is still phenomenal for a 300+ HP motor. Can you imagine our Dad's big block V8's pulling that off!

Here's a link I found, http://green.autoblog.com/2010/03/04/2011-ford-mustang-v6-gets-31-mpg-highway-first-ever-for-300-hp/

The new round of incentives were released today and it looks like Ford is offering, in Canada at any rate, Employee pricing on most 2011 models. Looks like the Edge is included in this, as the only exclusions in the fine print are the 2011 Shelby GT, F-150 Raptor and a few of the big trucks. This is just what I was waiting for and correct me if I'm wrong, but Employee A-Plan pricing should be even better than X-Plan?

Happy Canada Day indeed! Time to place my order.

∞ Ford Employee Pricing ("Employee Pricing") is only in effect from July 1, 2010 to August 31, 2010 (the "Program Period") and refers to A-Plan pricing ordinarily available to Ford employees and excludes any CAW negotiated bonuses or other special incentives that employees may receive from time to time. Employee Pricing is available on the purchase or lease of most new 2010 and 2011 Ford vehicles [excluding 2010 F-150 Raptor, F-Series Chassis Cabs, E-Series Cutaways and Stripped Chassis, F-650/F-750] / [2011 Mustang Shelby GT 500, F-150 Raptor, F-Series Chassis Cabs, E-Series Cutaways and Stripped Chassis, F-650/F-750]. The new vehicle must be delivered or factory ordered from your participating Ford Dealer during the Program Period. This offer can be used in conjunction with most retail consumer offers made available by Ford of Canada at the time of either factory order or delivery, but not both. Employee Pricing is raincheckable. Employee Pricing is combinable with the Commercial Connection Program but not combinable with CPA, GPC, CFIP, Daily Rental Allowance, A/X/Z/D/F-Plan and A/Z-Plan Loyalty program incentives.

Just came across some excellent info on the 2011 Edge...thought I'd share. Most of the info has been out for quite awhile, but this is about the only website that has such in-depth, detailed info all in one place:

 

http://media.ford.com/mini_sites/10031/2011Edge/

Nice. First time I've seen that MyFordTouch PDF booklet, lot of good details there.

I've ordered '11 edge sport w/ new engine ---haven't seen any specs regarding 0-60 times & EPA ratings

also HID lamps --not available on sport { this should be standard}

 

any feed back would be nice

 

also how do I track my order?

You're probably looking at mid to low 6 second 0-60 times with the new sport stock. The sport model also has the taller gear ratio, which should provide for a faster sprint compared to the other models or previous Edge's. Keep in mind that this is just the tip of the iceberg, the Ecoboost engine has proven itself to be an incredible motor for mods. Some of the Taurus SHO guys are squeezing out massive HP increases with just programming alone. You do however risk your warranty if you go that route, but don't be surprised to see some very fast Edge's over the next few months as the 2011 sports become available.

I was able to track my Flex when I ordered it last year. My dealer provided me with a VIN and I was able to track it's progress, you should be able to get that from your dealer as well.

I walked through the Oakville plant today and saw first hand what is going on. They are still building the 2010 Edge and MKX but around every 20th car on the line is the new 2011 Edge or Lincoln MKX. They are testing build quality coming off the line and fine tuning for the 2011's. I believe many of these early 2011 models will end up in dealer showrooms.

 

They should go on sale (delivery) by mid to end of July.

Wow, doesn't get more informed than having someone walk up and down the assembly line!

Thanks for the update.

You obviously haven't experienced MyTouch yet...

Is it that bad?

That would be like trying to install Windows Vista on a Commodore 64.

Let's give MyTouch some credit. More like installing Windows 7 on a Commodore 64.

I own a 2007 Edge and plan on buying new tires. My current tire size is 245/60R/18, and I want to go with a slightly wider tire...any recommendations?

 

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The stock 18" rim width for a 2007 Edge is 7.5". This means that you have a recommended 8.83" of actual tire width to play with. This can vary between manufacturers, but in most cases the widest safely you could go on a stock rim is 255. If you can find a shop willing to do it, you could conceivably go wider, but you'd be putting your safety at risk and most likey end up comprising the ride and handling.

Found a stated $750US cash incentive listed for 2011 Ford Edge on one of those obscure sites listing all cash incentives for all makes and models. Expiration date was end of July, early August. I only include it because some of you have been asking. I think the info is questionable at best, but thought I'd at least throw it out there. I ordered my 2011 with no money down and I of course get any incentives and/or financing available at delivery.

 

Sounds like the 2011s will not show up for awhile as Job 1 date has been pushed back from June 7 to July 12 (Blue Oval Forum), so Waldo may be in the know after all.

Thanks for tracking that down. If true, not the greatest of incentives, but hey, $750 is $750. It'll pay for BLIS or maybe even the Driver Entry Package.

Yes, I will be using XPLAN...through Disabled American Veterans (DAV). Actually my wife will be the primary driver for the Edge...she loves 'em.

 

Yes, I have a 2001 Bullitt Mustang...original owner, 42K miles, stock, signed by Richard Petty and not a scratch on her. She stays in the garage mostly now...go to a few car shows and take her out on nice days. Going up to Steamboat Springs this month for the Rocky Mountain Mustang Roundup.

 

My daily driver is my Expedition...

 

The 2011 Edge's are gonna be awesome! Hope you get what you're looking for. Do you have one on order? If not, when will you decide?

Decision was made when I saw the 2011 Sport at the auto show! 305HP EcoBoost, paddle shifters, gorgeous 22" rims, MyTouch, I'm sold! I'm ready to pull the trigger on the order, just waiting to see what the next round of incentives will be July 1st and whether they'll apply. In Canada at least, the %0 current financing is NOT applicable to the 2011 Edge.

The Bullitt Mustangs are awesome, take care of that beast. My pride and joy is an '02 Trams Am WS6 that I purchased when I found out it would be the last model year. It was a daily driver for 5 years so it currently has 90K on it. But I've babyed it since new and same as yours, it lives in the garage and only comes out to play on nice days. If it were up to me, I'd forget about the Edge and buy a brand new 2011 5L Mustang, unfortunately two small kids rules that out as a daily driver, so the Edge it is! Hard to believe that even the V6 Mustangs have almost as much power now as my '02 Trans Am did, and that was considered massive for the day.

Take care and keep us posted on the order.

Here's what I'm looking at:

 

Summary for the Limited 4dr All-wheel Drive MSRP1 Invoice2

Base Price $36,070 $33,589

Destination $775 $775

Colors

Interior Color Sienna

Exterior Color Bordeaux Red Reserve Metallic

Options

99C Engine: 3.5L Ti-VCT V6 INC INC

44J Transmission: 6-Speed SelectShift Automatic INC INC

STDGV GVWR: 5,580 lbs INC INC

STDAX 3.16 Axle Ratio INC INC

111WB 111" Wheelbase STD STD

64D Wheels: 18" Chrome-Clad INC INC

STDTR Tires: P245/60R18 AS BSW INC INC

PAINT Monotone Paint Application STD STD

G Leather-Trimmed Heated Bucket Seats INC INC

302A Rapid Spec 302A $5,000 $4,250

Engine: 3.5L Ti-VCT V6

Transmission: 6-Speed SelectShift Automatic

3.16 Axle Ratio

GVWR: 5,580 lbs

Tires: P245/60R18 AS BSW

Wheels: 18" Chrome-Clad

Leather-Trimmed Heated Bucket Seats

Vista Roof

Adaptive Cruise Control & Collision Warning

HID Headlamps

Driver Entry Package

Vision Package

Radio: AM/FM Stereo w/Single CD/MP3/Navigation

 

43P Vista Roof INC INC

CRUISE Adaptive Cruise Control & Collision Warning INC INC

HID HID Headlamps INC INC

51E Driver Entry Package INC INC

Perimeter Alarm

Power Liftgate

Remote Start

 

ALARM Perimeter Alarm INC INC

LIFT Power Liftgate INC INC

REMST Remote Start INC INC

17V Vision Package INC INC

Blind Spot Information System (BLIS)

Rain Sensing Wipers

 

BLIS Blind Spot Information System (BLIS) INC INC

WIPER Rain Sensing Wipers INC INC

52N Radio: AM/FM Stereo w/Single CD/MP3/Navigation INC INC

Integrated SIRIUS Travel Link

 

Total Price $41,845 (MSRP) $38,614 (INVOICE)

Very nice. If you don't know about it already, get yourself an XPLAN pin and you should hit close to that invoice price. I'm looking at a 2011 Sport myself, fully loaded, Red Candy Metallic paint. Should be a huge step up from the RAV.

You own a Bullitt Stang by any chance?

Thanks. I did get pretty good pricing info at cars.com. To me, I didn't see much difference at all, but would like to see what Ford has to say. I called yesterday...they said they would call back. Called today, a different person said they'd call back. Nothing yet...sales must be really good not to call back potential customers. LOL

Good luck to ya, let us know how it goes. What model/options you got your sights on?

It's one thing for me to bring up my wife jokingly, with a smily face, and a 'no offense' clause, in a conversation.

It's another thing for someone else to use my family as an obvious insult against me. That shows a complete lack of class and in my view, you crossed a line.

My dealer also does not have pricing info. They said I can order, but they wouldn't know the price until it comes back from Ford.

 

Sorry, but I'm not gonna order an Edge if I don't have a price. I asked him to look into it a bit more and to call me back. Is anyone else just a little miffed as to why FORD is holding out on pricing a 2011 Edge??? Funny how we can go to Cars.com and a few other sites and price it, but the Ford dealers and the Ford websites have no pricing info. I can only assume they want to sell as many '10s as possible. Based on what I see, there's good reason to hold out for an '11...pricing looks very similar to a '10, even with updated styling, suspension, engine tuning, mytouch, BLIS, adaptive cruise, driver entry package, etc.

Here in the Great White North, I used a site called carcostcanada.com to get detailed pricing on both the 2010 and 2011 models and do a direct compare. They are very close in price and you're totally correct, holding out gets you a the next 'Bond' car for almost the same $$$. PIN me if you want a breakdown, I'd be glad to fire it over to you. Although if you're in the US not sure how helpful that'd be.

My dealer confirmed with me yesterday that Job one does start July 12th but he wasn’t sure as to what the delivery date will be. He said that when the Fusions came out they were delivered a lot later then they had originally thought because Ford wanted all the dealers to get them at the same time. He also told me that he hadn’t received pricing guides yet for the 2011's so if I were to order it today I wouldn’t now what it was going to cost me until he gets a pricing guide. Where you able to get all of the pricing information prior to ordering?

In Canada, full price details are available at most dealers. They even have an interesting 'Touring Option' that bundles both the Vista Roof and NAV system together and gives you a $700 savings. Not sure why we have all these details yet, perhaps because they're built in Oakville?

Seems like you try to twist everything I type into something negative. My guess is your wife has told you the same thing.

Now who's getting personal?

Well if two people are telling you the same thing then you obviously have an issue.

 

How is Ford going to "iron out" issues on a vehicle with 3 new engines/new electronics/new suspension? If everything is being newly implemented then when was the market time to iron these things out? LOL

Is it only me that knows that make absolutely no sense at all?

Oh wait, Waldo has common sense. :yup:

 

Technologically the 2011 is going to be more advanced than previous models. That is obvious.

The new changes, which there are many, will bring about new issues.

Having an opinion and disagreeing with you means I have personal issues? Not sure who this second person is, but I guess I must have disagreed with something else someone said.

How about we lose the Ego and get back to the purpose of this forum?

You really only need to look at 1, the Flex, built at the same plant as the Edge using the same production systems, employees and engineers. It had a whole basket full of first year issues that have been worked out over time. Only now, nearly two years later, are the Flex's quality numbers finally coming into line with where they should be.

 

The new Edge is mostly a refresh, except for the entirely new, first time for Ford, electrical architecture. This isn't just a couple new modules, it's an entirely new system with a new communications "language" and totally new software. This is going to bring a new age to the concept of warranty claims, as most of the issues are likely to be software bugs, rather than part failures or assembly issues. If you like downloading software updates, the 2011 Edge will be for you.

I'm surprised to hear that. I've been the proud owner of a first year model Flex and have never had a single issue with it. And no, I'm not pulling a Sgt Schultz when I drive around town and there's a loud clunk coming from the rear end, "I hear NUT-TING!" It's without a doubt the most solid car I've ever owned and the primary reason why I'm looking to purchase my second Ford.

Enemy, take it down a few notches.

You're taking everything that I say as a personal insult.

 

I believe one of my first posts says "I'd never buy a first model year vehicle".

You can do whatever your heart desires. Go buy a Prius for all I care.

 

Fact is when you compare first year models to the same models following years there are going to be more issues that first year.

This is true for just about any manufactered product out there. Yes you take a gamble with any car but the odds you'll have an issue during the first model year are greater.

 

My facts arent based on complaints but based on TSB's and recalls released by the manufacterurs. Pretty easy to look up those statistics. Maybe you should try it?

 

Sorry to tell you this "Refresh" has 3 new engines and all new electronics. Im pretty sure the suspension components are different as well. So yes this is a "Refresh" on the exterior but everything else is new.

 

My Edge is a 2010 and if you read some of the posts on this board you'll see this same problem has been occuring on the Edge since 2007. I dont have a "bad taste" per say but more so annoyed with the fact that Ford neglected this well known issue until now. It doesn't make me want to run out and purchase another Ford.

 

Again, feel free to buy a 2011.

'You're taking everything that I say as a personal insult.' LOL, I had a good laugh reading that, you sounded just like my wife there for a second, no offense.

Seriously, you do bring up some valid points. However one thing you obviously missed, and maybe it's just the optimist in me, but isn't it quite possible that as part of the 'refresh' Ford may have ironed out and addressed the bugs that a very small minority of owners like yourself have experienced? Ford has stated quite clearly that most of the changes in the 2011's were brought about after listening to what existing Ford Edge owners would like to see improved upon, the bland interior, increased power, more technology, etc. Logically, wouldn't they have also taken corrective action to fix any minor existing issues that owners have identified?

I guess the new features could certainly introduce new bugs. But it's also quite possible using my point above that the 2011's may be even more sound than the previous models.