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  1. I had my '11 Edge in to my favourite quick lube this morning for it's second oil change at 5,300 miles (8,500km) and 13 months ownership. They know and respect that I only want the oil and filter changed and not to fool with anything else in the engine bay, etc. I like that it's not an all day process as it seems to be at the dealership and that I can see what's going on at all times. Yeah, I'm anal like that.

     

    Anyway, at the end of the process the 'downstairs' guy comes up and tells me there are a few things he noticed....

     

    There appears to be an oil leak of some sort coming from the top rear of the engine and 'sweating' (as he puts it) down the back of the block. He couldn't see where it was coming from.

     

    The passenger side half shaft has oil on it at the transaxle end and it's slinging fluid on the engine.

     

    He heard a knock in the bottom end at idle but when he tried to locate the source with his ear to a ratchet extension he said it was coming from within the engine. The 'topside' tech could not hear the knock.

     

    The level was about half a quart low. Last oil change was in November at about 2,800 miles (4,500km) so about 2,500 miles ago.

     

    I'm not sure what to think at this point. I certainly do not drive my vehicles hard - quite the opposite. I haven't had anyone comment on oil leakage from any of my vehicles for at least the last 7 years. I always use high quality full synthetic oil. There is no oil spotting on my garage floor.

     

    When I got home (after about four hours of driving) I got as far as I could under the vehicle and yes, the engine end of the passenger half-shaft appears to have oil of some sort on it. A very light coat and I couldn't see any signs of fluid being slung anywhere. I couldn't get myself far enough under to inspect this other leak.

     

    As far as any low end knock, I'm blindsided. I haven't heard it, aside from the engine being a bit noisy when cold. Nothing I would consider a problem. Lots of warranty left regardless.

     

    Anyone else have any of these issues as such a low mileage?

     

    Hi Limited. :D Things do happen, even to new vehicles. That is why we have a "New Car Bumper to Bumper Warranty". Make a service appointment and let them properly diagnose and repair any and all issues.

     

    I am not trying to stop you from soliciting the opinions and experiences of others. However, in the end it really doesnt matter whether anyone else had the same issues as you or not. You are having them and that is all that matters. And the way to have those issues properly corrected is to let Ford and the Dealers Service Department do their job. And the sooner the better.

     

    Whatever you decide to do good luck. :beerchug:

  2. Does this void any dealership warranty. I seen some mods also HID conversion and magnaflow exhaust system.

     

    Hi Joseph. :D The full answer is in the New Car Warranty Guide which Ford supplies with every new car purchase.

     

    The shorter answer is that it can lead to denied Warranty claims on any problems or Warranty issue which Ford or the Dealer feels it may have contributed to. Auto manufactures only Warranty their vehicles exactly as it rolled of the assembly line. Any aftermarket modification can/will lead to Warranty problems. So if you have made engine modifications and later experience any engine related issue and Ford/the Dealership realize the vehicle was modified, you should be ready to eat the bill. Does not always happen, but be aware it may.

     

    Again, this is addressed in our New Car Warranty Guide, for those who need more information. Also, keep in mind that a "denied Warranty claim" is different than "void any dealership warranty". It is rare that an auto Warranty is "voided", since that means absolutely nothing will ever be covered under Warranty on a particular vehicle ever again. That usually only happens on vehicles with Salvage titles, vehicles declared a total loss due to flood/accident etc., vehicles caught being used for racing an so on. But "denied" Warranty claims due to aftermarket modifications can and do occur more often than many would think. And just anticipating a common misconception - No, the Magnuson-Moss Act does not offer much protection in these cases. It is written to offer protection to consumers for other purchase and Warranty related issues, not aftermarket modifications which can be even remotely related to a Warranty issue or problem..

     

    Hope this information helps.

     

    Good luck. :beerchug:

  3. I have a 2010 edge sport, I bought the car a few weeks ago, and I heard about the puddle lights, so I went to my car to see how they work, and they do not come on at all. I removed the light bulbs and tested them and they work ok. Can someone tell me what the problem is?

    I checked all breakers and all are ok.

     

    Hi colinero. :D Just wondering, did you check them during the day or at night? In most vehicles, they are tied into the ambient light sensor and will not illuminate during the day.

     

    If that is not the issue, then if the vehicle is still under Warranty (3 years/36,000 miles), bring it in for proper diagnosis and service. Other than checking bulbs and fuses, tracing an electrical issue over the Internet is fruitless.

     

    Keep us updated and good luck. :beerchug:

  4. Gonna pull it this weekend and see if there is a good way to shim the housing. Thinking I might be able to slip a washer on a mounting stud or something. Anyone here ever pull a headlight housing out on a 2011+?

     

    Hi fish. :D Just as an FYI, so you know what you are in for - To remove the headlight housings, you must first remove the front bumper cover/fascia.

     

    EDIT - Just realized I was answering a question in the Edge forums (thought I was answering in the Fusion forums), so while this information is accurate for the Fusion, I am not 100% sure it is accurate for the Edge. If someone supplied information otherwise, i will edit out the incorrect information.

     

    Thanks and good luck. :beerchug:

  5. I have a 2011 Edge Limited. When I start it up if I don't move it (just stay in park in the driveway) for a couple of minutes it will start beeping and say "Service AdvanceTrac" and "Collision Warning not available" at the same time. After a second of beeping the warnings disappear. If I continue to sit there they will come on again. After about five minutes of going back and forth the warning light will eventually stay on. If I restart the car they disappear. If I get in the car, turn it on and start driving I never see a warning for either issue.

     

    Has anyone heard of this or have any ideas what's causing it or how to fix it? Thanks.

     

    Hi pdilow. :D Want to make it clear upfron that I am not trying to be a wise guy with this answer. So that being said - You have a 2011 vehicle with a 3 year/36,000 mile New car Bumper to Bumper Warrranty. So assuming your mileage is below 36,000 miles, the way you would properly fix it would be to make a service appointment at your Ford Dealership, take it in, demonstrate the issue to the Service Writer and let them properly diagnose and repair it. Since it seems to be easy for you to replicate your issue, do not just describe what is happening. Showing them exactly what occurs helps avoid the dreaded "Could not replicate customers concern", diagnosis.

     

    Keep us updated and good luck. :beerchug:

  6. Hi all. :D As a general rule of thumb, snow performance with FWD and AWD vehicles is primarily dictated by the snow handling/performance characteristics of the tires (and driver skill), not the vehicle. SInce all FWD and most AWD vehicles are decidedly nose heavy, they will all handle relatively the same in snow, if the proper tires are used. In other words, it is not the vehicles fault, it is either the tires, the driver or both.

     

    In addition, the same tires should be used on all four corners, so if using snow tires, always install four. Never install only two, whether on the drive wheels or not.

     

    And yes, of course the AWD version of a particular vehicle will handle better than a FWD version, in the snow with the exact same tires (i.e. tire model, tread depth, age etc.). But when comparing various FWD to FWD vehicles, AWD to AWD, tires are the primary deciding factor by a longshot.

     

    Concerning winter handling of the factory Sport wheel/tire combination (I believe Pirelli Scorpions?) - If you need true snow driving capability, plan on purchasing a wheel/tire combination more appropriate for snow usage. Generally speaking, wIde, low profile tires do not drive well in snow.

     

    Hope this information helps and good luck. :beerchug:

  7. About 3 months after buying this vehicle the backup camera started acting up. When you went to reverse the picture in the camera would be pink and blue and pixilated. This wouldnt happen everytime just now and then. But now the camera does this all the time and the colors on the radio are different then normal and also it shuts off completly and goes black. When it decides to come back on it shows on the screen performing schedualed maintance but it doesnt fix the problem. I have rebooted with the new update doesnt make any diffence , went to dealer he rebooted and said to drive it for awhile it should fix itself. That has been a month ago and still doing the same thing. Does anyone have any ideas on this.

    Thanks

    Jodi

     

    Hi Jodi. :D Yes, make a return appointment with the Service Department and inform them that it did not "fix itself". If they do not correct the issue this time, either file a report with Ford Customer Relations (number is in both the Owners Manual and Warranty Guide) or try another Dealership.

     

    Keep us updated and good luck. :beerchug:

  8. I Just bought a ford edge 2007 SEL AWD.

    I need to change the tires.

    the original tire size mentioned is 235x65xR17

     

    I cant find these tires here,

     

    Want to know if any other size will fix on 17" rims ???

     

    regards,

     

    Hi full_. :D Yes, there are various 17" choices which would be usable on your Edge For example: you could one size wider, to a 245/60-17 (a slightly smaller diameter than stock), or a 245/65-17 (a slightly larger diameter than stock) etc.. Also, in addition to the size concerns, be sure you purchase tires with an equivalent or slightly higher load rating than the stock/original tires.

     

    However, you should really speak to a competent tire shop in your area and see what is truly available. Or if you are ordering over the Internet etc., speak directly to a representative for the best advice and recommendations, since they will know what they do and do not offer.

     

    Let us know how you make out and good luck. :beerchug:

  9. Hello Ford Edge Owners....

     

    First, I am more or less new to the forum and am finding this column to be the most active....if I need to post this elsewhere please let me know. But I have an '07 Edge that up until now has been more or less flawless. However, within the past two days I have noticed a rattle sound coming from somewhere under the car, approximately on the passenger side, sounds like near the front right wheel though I am not sure. Could be closer to the vicinity of the engine but definitively coming from somewhere under the car. I hear the sound upon acceleration, with the car moving, and its not consistent. If you were to put some bb's in a tin can and rapidly shake it, that is what it sounds like. Or, another way to describe it...if there were a very hard steel heat shield that was rapidly vibrating and impacting an adjacent structure.

     

    I've read on other sites on the 'net where other Ford models have had issues like this, and some folks claim it could be faulty ignition timing....or perhaps a catalytic converter that's been destroyed. However, I only hear the noise when the car is moving and upon acceleration.

     

    Any suggestions or diagnosis help would be appreciated. It has 76,XXX miles on it.

     

    Hi alittleedgy and welcome. :D Blind Internet diagnosis? I would agree with wlepse...loose heat shield. However any decent mechanic could tell you in 5 minutes whether it is a loose heat shield, an engine issue or a catalytic converter problem.

     

    Keep us updated and good luck. :beerchug:

  10. My Edge sits extremely high. It makes the distance from the tire to the wheel well huge. I've looked at other stock ones on this site and they sit much lower. Anyone know why? It looks like crap. And, is there anything that can be done to reduce it without voiding the warranty?

     

    Thanks.

     

    Hi Mike. :D There are many existing threads concerning this subject. You can install aftermarket lowering springs.

     

    However, if you do install aftermarket lowering springs and later have any issues with your suspension (or possibly even certain drivetrain components), there is a good chance that your Warranty claim will be denied. And keep in mind that a "denied Warranty claim" is much different than "voiding the Warranty".

     

    Hope this information helps and good luck. :beerchug:

  11. I have a 2008 Edge Limited with 92,000 miles. I just got an cost estimate from my local Ford dealer that it would cost $380.00 for spark plug replacement! Is this the going rate?I live in Racine, WI. What have you paid for this???? (I know that the plenum needs to be removed).

     

     

    Hi Tobias. :D To put your mind at ease, I would recommend calling several of your other area Ford/Lincoln Dealers for price quotes. That will give you the best idea as to what the going rate is in your area.

     

    Let us know how you make out and good luck. :beerchug:

  12. I didn't buy from them yet but have spoken with them and they were very helpful and upfront. At the time they weren't able to help me due to other issues with Ford but that should be resolved now.

     

    Hi wlepse. :D In addition to Flood Ford, I would also recommend you call The Harold Ziegler Automotive Group for pricing. See this existing thread for more information, especially my post (reply #3) - LINK - Ford ESP Plan

     

     

    Good luck. :beerchug:

  13. The vehicle is a 2008 SEL with about 70k on it. When going over uneven surfaces - like bumps, potholes, turning into driveways, etc. there is a very noticeable knock/popping that comes from the pillar on the passengers side b/t the front and rear seat. It may actually be coming from the area back by the rear passengers seat. It's coming from middle of the car and up - not down low like a suspension noise.

     

    It's annoying and almost sounds like something is lose. Any thoughts? It's out of warranty, so taking it to the dealer is sort of a last resort.

     

    Thanks!

    SHUMAX

     

    Hi SHUMAX. :D I would start by asking a car-savvy friend to take a ride with you. While you re-create the noise by driving over bumps, potholes, into driveways etc., let him sit in the front and back seat and try to isolate exactly where the sound is coming from. If you can isolate the sound to a particular area, then check all trim, fasteners, wiring harnesses and whatever else is in the problem area for integrity and sound isolation. And just a heads-up: I would not try to remove any trim in the cold weather (unless you have a heated garage) as it will be stiff and prone to breakage.

     

    Let us know how you make out and good luck. :beerchug:

  14. Frozennuts, I just picked up an 08 yesterday. How much work is it? Any special tips on how to do it?

     

    Hi Coyote. :D That picture is simply a Photoshop, supplied by frozennuts, of a Raptor grille on an Edge. No one we know of has actually performed that modification.

     

    So how much work would it be for someone to do it for real? It would be a custom job. Someone would need to purchase the grille, cut it to fit properly, fabricate mounting hardware etc. etc.. It could certainly be done by someone with the fabricating skills, but generally speaking, if they think it is worth the time and money, most people would probably be better off paying a shop to do it.

     

    Good luck. :beerchug:

  15. Looking for some reputable knowledge guys and gals. Just picked up a used 2011 Edge Limited, Platinum Tri Coat White, with 15k miles. Exterior is in good condition, 9/10, no issues. Interior is 8/10, that will get it's own detail.

     

    When I get a new (used) vehicle I typically get a detail from my detail guy - helps the car feel new. My question is this: He's recommending a paint sealant. I hesitated since this is a new vehicle, but he says thats the best time because the factory only puts on a clear coat over your paint. I do live in Phoenix where the sun is brutal. Can anybody speak to this? I'm thinking he's right on, just wanted to be sure before I drop the cash.

     

    Thanks in advance! Just drove the Edge back from San Diego (to Phoenix) where I picked it up last night...it's my first Ford and I'm lovin this ride and all it's features!

     

    Jason

     

    Hi Jason. :D You will get many opinions, here is one: If he is charging you no more for the "paint sealant" than he would for a good wax "detailing" then go ahead. But if he is charging you extra for this "treatment", then your wallet is getting the "treatment, not your car. No paint sealant is going to be a no-maintenance/permanent treatment. In reality, in many case it will last no longer or not much longer than a good quality waxing.

     

    As far as "...the factory only puts on a clear coat over your paint" statement, well what else is he expecting them to to put on it (rhetorical question)? The "clear coat" he is referring to is paint. For all intents and purposes, clearcoat paint is the same formulation paint as the color coat of our cars, just with no color pigment. It is harder and will last longer than any paint sealant, wax, polymer etc.. Yes, regular applications of a paint sealant, wax or polymer treatment etc. is necessary for the full paint protection, but all of them must be regularly reapplied since they all simply wear off. So paying more for a "paint sealant" only helps empty your wallet.

     

    So again, if he is not charging extra for his "paint sealant" than his normal wax or polymer detailing, go ahead, But if he is charging more, you are wasting money. Heck, on the other hand you can purchase a good quality paint sealant at your local auto store and do it yourself for a fraction of the cost, if you wish.

     

    Additionally, you can browse websites such as Meguiars.com and Mothers.com for professional advice on this and many other car-care subjects.

     

    Whatever you decide to do, good luck :beerchug:

  16. Hello. I have a 2011 Edge and for the last month or so I have noticed the 7/8 on the key pad will light up sometimes and be out other times. I'm assuming bad part or connection. I need to get it in so the dealer can fix this under warranty but was just curious if anyone else has run into this before. Thanks!

     

     

    Hi swalker. :D Yes, it happens. Like any part/component, there will always be a small failure rate.

     

    Let us know how you make out and good luck. :beerchug:

  17. I've had my 2012 Edge Sport for just over three weeks and absolutely love it. My only complaint is the large sunroof rattles toward the rear of the front panel when closed. It seems to become more noticeable when it is cold (recent temps have been in the 20s). How can I remedy this?

     

    Thanks for your help and all the great content here. This is my first of what I hope will be a lot of posts.

     

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    2012 Ford Edge Sport

    Tuxedo Black

     

     

    Hi frazi. :D This is my best advice - Noises and rattles can be tricky to pin down. You have a brand new vehicle with a 3 year/36,000 mile New Car Bumper to Bumper Warranty. You make a service appointment, bring the Edge in, clearly explain, describe and demonstrate the rattles to the Service Writer and/or Tech, then let them diagnose the cause and fix it.

     

    Let us know how you make out and good luck. :beerchug:

  18. so our 6month old edge limited is at the dealership with an odd problem. As winter came around I started to notice that one line in the middle of the grid of the rear defrost seemed not to be working, even after the frost had fully been removed a line still stayed on the one wire. So it's at the dealership right now and they've yet to find the problem through testing and are keeping it over night to reproduce the problem. Just wanted to see if anyone else has ever had this problem, I fear this will be several trips to the dealer to resolve.

     

    any insight?

     

    Hi james. :D As choff and Scorpiio stated, in the overwhelming majority of such cases (a single defrost grid line inop), it is a break in the grid line. It is a simple diagnosis and a simple repair. Since all the grid lines work but one, the other "usual suspects" can be eliminated (i.e. a defective switch, bad relay, blown fuse etc.).

     

    While I hate to speculate why they did not find the break today (or get to it?), sometimes it is just easier to locate the break when the window has condensation and the defroster is activated. Often times, you can see a tiny spot on the glass which will be clear of condensation, right where the break is. So maybe they want the Tech to check it in the morning when there is condensation present. Or perhaps they wanted to/needed to verify the problem area first (again, with condensation present in the morning). Either way, it should be an easy fix tomorrow.

     

    Let us know how you make out and good luck. :beerchug:

  19. Thanks for the reply,

     

    Is there another Ford Edge forum with more posters? I see alot of these topics are getting 1 or 2 replies.

     

    Hi gator :D . No, there is not another Edge forum with more posters.

     

    As far as the number of topic/thread replies here on the Ford Edge Forum: There are only so many ways to give the same information. Questions #1 and #3 only needed yes/no answers which fishx65 supplied and #4 is a tough one because technically you don't "order" a used car. All you can do is tell the Dealer what you would like and hope he may be able to find something close to it. And the more you specify you want, the more limited your choices will become and the less likely they will find something that fits your "request".. And as far as average mpg's, if you do a search, there are several existing threads with many replies concerning "real world" mpg, although the information is essentially worthless, since the mpg's achieved by differing driving styles in vastly different driving environments can not be compared. :shift:

     

    Good luck with your search and let us know how you make out. :beerchug:

  20. I do not see a question or request for opinions from miguel2012 on his new Edge wheels, so I won't comment on them. I am reading into Opusnbill7's reply of "why?" that he does not seem to be a big fan of he look. Everyone has some tastes that differ from others, which is the way it should be. It would be an awfully dull world if we all liked the same things. My mantra when it comes to customizing your car, if you like the look of a certain mod on your car, you should do it. You're opinion is the only one that matters. I used to criticize cars that did not appeal to me, but as I became more wise through the years, This attitude began to change when the Pontiac Aztek came out. Everybody hated the look and the jokes were flying. I didn't care for the design either, but at least GM pushed the envelope attempting to bring back some creativity that had been missing for years prior. Yes it wasn't successful, but it did help to jump start other car makers to push their design limits as well. Before this epiphany of mine, I would joke and shake my head when seeing a kid's 10 year old Honda Civic he picked up for $1,800 now scraping up the pavement with his 22 inch spinners rubbing against his ears. The kid also chose to graft a decommissioned F-15 starboard wing flap onto his trunk lid. There's still times when I see a tricked out car and giggle a bit, but then I go on to think about how much fun that kid and his friends must have had installing the accessories and how proud he is of HIS own unique ride. I began noticing the driver's faces as they drove by, they all had the same grin I had when i would tweak my car's look. I don't know about you, but I'd rather see a smiling kid driving a blinged outrageously modded car, than a tight-@ss grumpy dude frowning down the road in a plain Jane, uninteresting, uninspiring, me-to stock sedan. Go ahead, be creative and do what makes you feel good!

     

     

    Hi kc300c. :D As others have mentioned but you must have missed: The title of this thread by miguel2012 (the OP) states "2012 ford edge what you think". Also, miguel2012 asked "what you think" about this video clip in a similar thread (double-posted) which you also must not have seen. Some replied in both threads (and quite politely for the Internet, I would add :hysterical: ). So he did solicit opinions.

     

    Hope this makes the sequence of events clearer.

     

    Good luck. :beerchug:

  21. Thanks for all the replies! I certainly don't dismiss the added convenience of the integrated Nav, but between phones, tablets, and handheld GPS units, I'm of mixed mind about it.

     

    My primary intent was to understand how likely I was to find a Sport without Nav at a dealer, or if I was going to have to order one from the factory. I've searched inventory at about 20 dealers now through the Ford site, and I'm not sure I've seen one AWD Sport without Nav!

     

    And as some are reporting that model year '12 production is all allocated, that complicates things a bit and delays timing.

     

    Also, resale is somewhat of a concern - for me primarily whether not having Nav is going to make it harder to sell the vehicle in 3-5 years (or whenever). That's the reason why I was trying to get a handle on whether the majority of people get it or not.

     

     

    Hi Lugnut. :D I completely understand what you are saying. However, out of all the variables, I would probably worry about resale the least (my personal opinion, of course).

     

    Short version? For every person who would not buy a used Edge Sport without factory NAV 3-5 years from now or whenever, there is another person just like you. One who has some other type of portable GPS system and will be looking for a used Edge Sport without the added cost of factory NAV and/or vice-a-versa. Therefore, whichever way you choose to go, you lose one prospective buyer and gain another. So there is no way to predict either way what someone will or will not want who looks at your Edge Sport in 3-5 years or whenever. And if you trade it in, it is a moot point anyway. Either way, like any option the overall purchase will still result in a net loss. That is why your best bet is always to get what you want.

     

    Also, please note I am not telling you not to get the factory NAV. In fact, if I was purchasing, I would probably order the NAV myself. I usually purchase fully loaded with every option that does not require a moonroof (my own personal preference). I am not trying to influence you either way, other than to convince you to do what you feel is best for you.

     

    Whatever you decide to do, good luck. :beerchug:

  22. Hi, I am considering getting a '12 Sport and have been playing around with configurations. I am wondering if most buyers get the Navigation option? It seems all Edge Sports at my local dealers do have it.

     

    Personally, I'm not crazy about Nav as an installed option, just because it's become so ubiquitous in mobile devices and is relatively expensive (initial cost as well as updates).

     

    Also, is the Driver Entry package pretty standard on these? Do most of you have it?

     

    I appreciate any help!

     

    Hi Lugnut. :D Everyone above has given excellent advice and reasons to purchase/not purchase the factory NAV unit.

     

    I would only add this: Don't worry about what other people order or don't order. Get what you want. That goes for the Navigation system, the Drivers Entry Package, wheel styles/sizes, etc. etc.. And don't worry about resale value later. You rarely if ever get back what you paid for any option, so it still winds up a net loss. In the end, you are the one who will need to drive it and make the payments, so buy what you want. And if you can't find what you want in your local Dealers inventory, ask them to locate it at another Dealership or factory order it for you (although I believe 2012 orders are closed out so you may need to order a 2013, but check with your Dealer for the latest information).

     

    In fact, for my own very good reasons, I always factory order my cars, even when one that is exactly what I am looking for may be sitting on my Dealers lot or available for trade from another Dealership (but that is a whole other story). :lurk:

     

    Again, not knocking any previous advice since they are all very well thought out replies, just expressing another perspective (which you are also free to ignore). :hysterical: :grouphug:

     

    Whatever you decide to do, good luck. :beerchug:

  23. Hello all:

    Thank you SO much for your helpful advice/thoughts! It's not a Ford Warranty at all and it's a 3rd party extended warranty that the used car dealer is offering. I have found additional warranties good to have--for some reason I have bad luck when purchasing used vehicles (even only 2 years old!) and have managed to get my car repaired using the warranties I purchased! I just called a dealership in RI (Flood Ford) that in another forum was recommended for great pricing. They say their used car warranties are 100% backed by Ford and a 4 year or 48,000 miles bumper-to-bumper extended warranty would be $2255! Yeah-not paying that either! And there was a deductible I believe. I told him this was too high but he would not budge on the price.

     

    Hi nena. :D Well, learn something new every day. :stats: Seems there is an "out-of-New Car Warranty" Genuine Ford ESP Plan available. Here is the Flood Ford link to the contract sample - Link - ESP Sample Contract If you scroll down to "Section C - Type of used Plans" and "Section D - Coverage Terms and Cost" it lists the stipulations. I actually think I have read this information in the past and just completely forgot. They say "...when it goes, it goes quick...", and I guess I am proof of that. :hysterical::banghead:

     

    What I would recommend is also contacting Harold Ziegler Automotive Group - LINK - Harold Ziegler Automotive Group (866-943-7778). There are several previous threads where I discuss my own ESP price shopping and I found the lowest prices at Harold Ziegler AG and Flood Ford. I eventually decided to go with Harold Ziegler AG for the intangibles. I dealt with Michael Case, and it was a very professional experience, so listen/wait through all of the voice mail system prompts and see if he is still the Ford ESP contact there. At least this way you will have a few competitive quotes. And don't be afraid to mention your previous price quotes to see if you can get a better deal. Also, if you click on the HZAG link I provided and look on the left side, you can find a "Vehicle Eligibility" link that explains the eligibility requirements for the various Ford ESP plans (new/used etc.).

     

    And yes, the the "almost $2,000" third party and $2255 Genuine Ford ESP price quotes do sound relatively expensive, considering the pricing of the ESP Plans on a new/still under New Car Warranty vehicle. Unfortunately however, I guess that is what happens with the used/out of Warranty vehicle plans since they naturally incur higher Warranty claims risk. Just my personal opinion, but if you decide to go ahead with one of the plans despite the cost, I would pay the little bit extra and go with the Genuine Ford ESP Plan. The peace of mind is worth it (my opinion, of course).

     

    Again, learn (or relearn? :hysterical: ) something new every day. :grouphug:

     

    Let us know how you make out and good luck. :beerchug:

  24. Hello:

    I am in the process of purchasing a 2008 Ford Edge 3.5l V6 w/ FW drive with 58,000 miles. I am seeking advice/thoughts on purchasing an extended warranty for 4 years or 48,000 miles. Live in MA and use car a lot in snow as well!! I am looking for advise on a decent purchase price for an extended warranty that covers everything. The used dealer quoted me almost $2000 for one that covers everything which I do think it quite high. What is a reasonable price to pay for one and should I take a basic one or a similar one that cover all (power train, etc.)? Thanks so much!!

     

    Hi nena. :D Just a few added issues/questions here to go along with those already mentioned. First, unless Ford has recently changed the rules for used car purchases or the Dealer is pulling a fast one, you can not purchase a Genuine Ford ESP Plan if you are over the 3 year/36,000 mile New Car Warranty (4 years/50,000 miles for Lincoln). The Genuine Ford ESP Plan (the Ford Extended Warranty) must be purchased before the New Car Warranty expires. And at 58,000 miles, you are outside that window of opportunity.

     

    Also, if you were purchasing a Genuine Ford ESP, the Plan time/mileage limits begin with the original in-service date of the vehicle (the day the first buyer purchased it). As an example, at 58,000 miles you would already be outside the mileage limit of a 4 year/48,000 mile Ford ESP Plan. In other words, a 4 year/48,000 mile ESP Plan only extends the New Car 3 year/36,000 mile Warranty coverage by 1 year/12,000 miles and again you are already outside that limit. So if you want 4 years/48,000 miles of extended coverage with a Ford ESP, you would be looking at a 7 year/84,000 mile plan. Can't speak for how other third-party plans word their policies, but that is how a Ford ESP is written.

     

    That most likely leaves you with a third party/aftermarket extended Warranty. Most of us here would advise you to avoid those like the plague, as they are usually nothing but trouble. Bottom line though is we can not give much helpful pricing advice until we know who the extended Warranty contract is with. Ford ESP (to my knowledge technically can't be) or another third party Warranty company (and if that is the case, who is the contracting company)? Also, keep in mind that just because you are purchasing the Extended Warranty through a Ford Dealer does not mean it is a Genuine Ford ESP Plan (the only Ford backed Extended Warranty Plan). Many Dealers sell third party/aftermarket Warranties without the customer ever realizing what they are buying until they have a Warranty claim and get the runaround.

     

    Post back with more information when you can and good luck. :beerchug:

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