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I'm wondering, if I have winter tires installed on rims with TPMS sensors, will I have to take the car to a car/tire dealer every spring and fall to have the system reprogrammed? Will hooterz procedure suffice if I change the rims/tires out myself or is a special tool required?

If you're not getting pre-ignition or misfires, it's not likely the fuel. More probable is that lower fuel economy is a refection of a change in driving pattern - either heavier acceleration wth harder braking, heavier stop-and-go traffic, or a change in geography (hills vs plain). Even driving the same route daily to work and back can vary in fuel efficiency if you leave at different times (5 mins can make a big difference in traffic congestion). Just sayin'.

I'd rather change them over each fall/spring myself to prevent damage and overtorquing. My dealer has a reasonalbe price on a tire/TPM/rim package but I'll have to check to see how much they will charge twice/yr to set the TPMs - a 2 minute job if I do the install. For about the same price as the dealer package I can get slightly upgraded tires and better looking rims with TPMs and a TPM calibrator from Tire Rack (thanks for the link). I'm only an hour from the border so I can save on shipping if not taxes. I appreciate your advice. Think I'll take it and go with the 17s.

Did you order your winter tires and rims fromTire Rack. If so, were the TPMSs installed? Do you also have to order the $45 programming tool?

Read your link tmbubell. With that and other things I've read, I had just about decided with going with 17" over 18s then I got this from Ford Canada in response to an email i sent them the other day (emphasis mine)... Hi Keith, My name is Xxxxxx and I am with the Ford of Canada Customer Relationship Centre. I had the opportunity to read your email regarding your 2013 Ford Edge Limited. I appreciate the time you have taken to write us and consider our assistance regarding this matter. First, allow me to congratulate you on your purchase of a new vehicle. I understand that you are planning to replace your vehicle’s rims and tires and would like to know if the 17" rims and tires will meet the safety requirements. Rest assured that I have looked into this for you. Ford of Canada will not replace factory supplied all-season tires with snow tires, as snow tires are not an orderable option for the vehicle. Vehicle handling characteristics, tire load index and speed rating on non-factory installed snow tires may not be the same as factory supplied all-season tires. Snow tires are meant to be operated during winter conditions and may require a higher cold inflation pressure than all-season tires. In order to meet the safety requirements, snow tires must be the same size, load index, speed rating as those originally provided by Ford. Use of any tire or wheel not recommended by Ford can affect the safety and performance of your vehicle, which could result in an increased risk of loss of vehicle control, vehicle rollover, personal injury and death. Additionally, the use of non-recommended tires and wheels could cause steering, suspension, axle or transfer case/power transfer unit failure. Please consult your Ford dealer for details. Thank you for contacting Ford of Canada, Sounds like a dance around the subject to me. Do snow tires have as high a speed rating as OEM All Seasons? Are they saying I can't put snow tires on the car???!!! What about provinces like Quebec where snow tires are mandatory? What does Ford put on a car that's sold in Quebec in Dec or Jan to make it legal when you drive it off of the lot? Are they saying (last bold portion) that if I put anything other than OEM spec'd tires on the car and then have problems with the 'steering, suspension, axle or transfer case/power transfer unit' that I may have problems with warranty? I've written back to them asking for clarification and to tell me what winter tires will meet their specs.

Thanks for your reply, Krazykanuck. I knew other Edge trims took 17" wheels but didn't know if AWD would make the vehicle sit higher and therefore make18 more suitable. Our local dealer has a special with winter tires (BF Goodrich), rims (steel), and sensors for $1255.00 + tax. I'd rather alloy wheels but don't want to pay much more than that. Maybe if I can find cheap wheels on Kijiji and can get the tires w/sensors mounted on my rims for about $900.....

I recently bought a new 2013 Edge Limited AWD. This car, according to what I can find, comes stock with P245/60R18 tires. My vehicle has the optional 20" chrome rims with P245/50R20 rubber. I'm looking to buy rims and mount winter tires on them to save the chome from the salt and ice we get here as well as give me better snow and ice performance. I assumed I would need 18" rims with the above18" tires but the parts guy at my dealer is telling me to put P235/65R17 tires on (with 17"rims of course). Almost all the tire manufacturers advise only 18" or 20" tires/wheels are spec'd for this model of Edge. The 17"s are cheaper but I don't want to sacrifice safety or performance for the sake of a few bucks. I know the 17" will read about 2 km/h (1 mph) lower at 100 km/h (60 mph). Not a big deal. Any experts out there that can give informed advice on any other effects the 17s will provide? Will there be any noticeable difference in handling or ride other than what winter tread would give anyway?

Was the OEM radio swapped out for another one?

Traded our 2007 Fusion on this on two days ago. It has to be the nicest vehicle I've ever driven! Love MFT. But I'm a gadget guy. All my wife sees are $$$ if something goes for a cr@p. However we bought an extended warranty so that's given her some peace of mind. I'm not used to talking to an object so Sync commands might take a while Hope to keep up on issues and tips on using this new playtoy. Keith