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I used this procedure to program my key (I had to do the buttons separately):

 

1. Insert the first previously programmed coded key into the ignition.

2. Turn the ignition from off to on. Keep the ignition on for at least three seconds, but no more than 10 seconds.

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8. Turn the ignition from off to on. Keep the ignition on for at least six seconds.

9. Remove the newly programmed coded key from the ignition.

I tried this but so far no luck and I find it confusing. For this and the button program instructions, I think it means that "on" is the step just before actual ignition. That's how I have been doing it.

But I am wondering, after step 9, to see if the programming worked, you put the new key into the ignition, then attempt to start the car. Right?

In other words you don't attempt to use the key to start the ignition right after step 8, you have to go and do step 9, then put the key back in and try it. . .

Ok so I bought this key.

I had it cut and that worked.

Then I tried to program it.

So far following the instructions from this site and the ones on the key sellers site and trying some variations, so far I have only been able to program the buttons.

The key programming so it starts the car has not worked.

I need to maybe contact the key seller's support and take another look at the manual.

Could be something as simple as a bad button. Does the key start the car? If it does, I would get an EBay (or other website) key and do the self-programming. Once you determine that the EBay one work, pick up a couple more as back ups. This is the seller I used:

Yes the key starts the car! Ok I will get one of those keys and go through this process and see if it can work. Thanks!

I've done some reading here to try and find anything related but cannot.

I have a 2013 Edge SEL with 3 button key fob (I have two fobs). On one the unlock button stopped working. It was intermittent and then just stopped. The lock button works.

I checked the battery and it's fine.

It looks like from taking the battery out that there is no way to access the internal button area to try and see if anything can be done.

To get a new key and have it programmed at the dealer will cost about $200.

I tried finding an OEM key on ebay for example but according to the ebay parts compatibility checker, the 3 button remote is not compatible but the 4 button remote is. Yet I have read I should not get the 4 button remote because I have a 3 button remote.

However there are other sites out there which will sell a 3 button OEM key fob remote for $80.

I guess I have a few questions:

Before I buy a new key, I am wondering if somehow the key got unprogrammed and I should have the dealer try reprogramming it? Or is it fried?

If I get one of these OEM keys, it sounds like I can get it cut by a professional keysmith and there are steps I can take to program it using some sequence with turning the key in the ignition 8 times (etc). But if that's the case, can I do that with the two remotes I have even though one has a broken button?

Thanks for any info/help you can provide!

Omar, thats what I want installed but didnt know if anything else was required. Do you know if the dealer has to activate it? Thanks

$300 seems like a lot to install that part unless it includes the price of the part. When I ordered the part online, it also included a price and option to prepay for installation. Try going through the ordering process and see how much it wants for installation. In my area it was around $40 or $50. My understanding is that a computer/dealer is not required to activate it as the instructions tell you what steps you have to take to activate it. The shock sensor sensitivity is controlled by a dial on the module. The instructions tell you how to set that as well. You can also order a separate flashing LED for $15 which is installed in a visible area in the driver side front window frame (it has a very short cord).

http://accessories.ford.com/anti-theft-flasher-10668.html

franceseza, The factory alarm or the one I bought which is essentially the factory alarm has a shock sensor. So if someone smashes in a window the alarm should go off. But not all cars come with an alarm.

You would have to have Ford check your VIN to see if was built with one but sounds like it was not.

Hey joeyalex do you know if this alarm is passive arming or does it only activate when you lock the car with the remote?

In other words if I exit the car and forgot to lock it or press the remote, will it arm automatically?

Thanks!

For fair comparison Forester should be up against Escape. Edge is in Tribeca class. Having owned all of these, Edge is better on comfort and features, but Subaru takes performance.

One could say that sure but based on what I have read the Edge seems to straddle both classes. Also I guess personally I am comparing the Edge to the Forester I own.

The Tribeca has a third row seat and is designed for 7 people (like the Toyota Highlander) but the Edge seats 5.

Which performance exactly are you talking about? AWD? Handling? It seems to me since these aren't sports cars the 0-60 performance doesn't really matter!

I posted about my first experience with my 2013 SEL AWD having to use the AWD in snow last week in the owner impressions section.

I did notice that when I was on the highway where there was a lot of snow on the ground and pressed the gas pedal harder from being stopped it put all power to the rear wheels first.

It's very smooth in general, didn't notice any jerkiness.

Otherwise in normal conditions it always puts some to both front and back starting out and then shifts to the front.

Ok thanks for the info! And that's awesome that it's so easy to install, I will take a look at that!

I got the car used about a month ago. We had our first snow storm since I got it yesterday and was pleasantly surprised to see how well it did.

The car performed very nicely under varying road conditions - AWD and traction control worked great. I watched what the AWD was doing with the dash monitor. It only placed power to the rear wheels when needed and once traction was achieved it quickly switched back to the front. There are times when it only powers the rear wheels but again this is only for a few seconds and then either both or back to the front. The traction control kept the car from spinning when I turned onto my street which doesn't get plowed - it just swerved slightly and then I straightened it out.

I was going to wait and see how the all weather tires did before deciding if I should get snow tires or not. They are the stock Michelin Latitude HP (18). Part of how a car performs (AWD and traction control aside) in snow of course has to do with the tires and these tires seem to be almost as good as snow tires. Unless I was going to go into the mountains, for just regular city/highway road driving, I don't think I need snow tires.

I have the same Michelin's on my 2013 Edge SEL AWD and I was pleasantly surprised to see how well they did in the snow in the snow storm we just had. (Just got the car a month ago.)

I don't know the answer but I have a question about the part. I bought a used 2013 Edge which did not come with the factory alarm / anti-theft device.

I wanted to have one put in. I called two dealers so far and they don't seem to associate this part on the website with it being the factory alarm.

http://accessories.ford.com/electronic-module-10669.html

(I can't paste in the link.)

Anyway one of them is going to get back to me about it and installing it.

But it sounds like this IS the factory alarm part?!

Here are two photos with the Edge and Forester side by side.

Awesome pics!

I bought a used 2013 SEL two weeks ago. I too had misgivings about the whole MFT thing. Mine did not come with MFT. You can find used ones without it.

The Limited more than likely will come with MFT but not all SEL have it and SE does not.

You have to shop around for a good used price and keep watching the ads, reading the internet sites. Then find one and see if you can negotiate or not.

I have to say from my recent car research and buying experience - you can read all the stuff about a car on the internet, read all the comments people make about it, see them on the road, but none of that amounts to sh*t until you actually drive it! I tried some cars I always admired but were a lot different when I actually drove them. I read an article the other day about car buying now and someone posted in the comments that they never drive a car before buying, they just went and bought it. To me that sounds crazy. The cars I ended up not liking I never drove again but the ones I wasn't sure about I would go and take another drive. I drove 3 Edge's before getting the one I just got. And yes the cars of the same model will all drive different.

I also at first didn't understand what you meant by "in command" of the road. I think for you this means sitting very high up. To me it means driving a sports car which is light quick and nimble! Sitting in the Edge I am much higher than the other cars I have owned since I don't own trucks or large SUVs.

I was at the dealer today and asked the service manager while I was there if using the K&N would void the warranty. He said no but that they don't recommend using it. Two techs were in his office and they agreed as well. They said you don't much from it and that if you use too much oil it will get on the mass airflow sensor or whatever it is and if you don't use enough then dirt will get it. So I'm going to stick with OEM.

My plan is to buy an Edge which will be my car and the "long range family-hauler", while the Forester will be my wife's car and the "short range, AWD car." Don't really see the need for AWD in both cars, not when I live in MD and see 1 good snow storm every 3 years! It's good to know that the SEL can be had without MFT. It's pretty to look at, but I've read too many bad things about it.

That's funny! That's exactly what we are doing! My wife gets the Subaru and I get the Edge but it's also the family and travel car. I would have been fine with FWD but it just worked out this way. Generally speaking if a car i own has AWD I don't bother with snow tires but if it's FWD I do. I'll see how the Edge does with the current tires once we get into that.

Zerosum I did look into the SE trim level. In fact I found that the SEL level can also be found without MFT. I also found out that Sync and MFT are two separate things although from reading about it on the internet and people complaining in general they interchange the terms to mean the same thing it sounds like. Even the SE and SEL trim levels will come with Sync but they don't come with MFT which is on the higher end Limited and Sport. I ended up getting a used 2013 SEL AWD which only has Sync. It's awesome!

Back to the topic on hand more or less, the 2007 and 2008 Forester is essentially the same car. The things that bug me about it are the damn noise from road and wind and because Subaru doesn't use sound dampening materials and the car has cheap materials in general. The fuel pump makes an insane high pitched whine (which may have been fixed on some 2008 Foresters) which drives me crazy. The rear seat has no leg room! On the plus side as I said one of the best AWD systems and it's reliable. The Edge to me is the anti-Forester. It's SO quiet, made of nice materials, has enough leg room and room in general! I don't think I will ever buy a Subaru again.

I live in Utah and just bought a 2013 Edge SEL (used). I see a lot of them on the road around here. Tons of Subarus of course but also a lot of these.

I liked the idea of looking into getting just an SE. Since there wasn't much available in my area, I found a new one, a 2013, at a dealer marked down by $5k because it was a base model and they couldn't sell it, end of year and all that. I went to look at it and the one option they put in it was the sync system. So it had sync but no touchscreen. The salesman told me all the problems were in the higher end models with the touchscreen but that the lower models works great and he has one. It didnt work out with that one so I went and looked at a preowned 2013 SEL which had the same setup as the SE. I ended up getting that one.

On another note, a friend of mine was given a new 2014 Ford Mustang at an airport which had the sync system (no touchscreen). He hooked it up and tested it and said it worked perfectly, he was very happy with it!

 

You mean, no car is perfect??? Heaven forbid! I do love their Eco manufacturing ads tho.

LOL! Yea the Edge (2011+) would be perfect for me if it weren't for the friggin' MyFord Touch problems!

I have been looking to get some kind of crossover vehicle and having rented a Ford Edge and liking it very much I was thinking of buying one.

Based on what I read for example on the 2011 redesign I was going to look at 2011-2012 pre-owned.

Then I read about all the problems with MyFord Touch. I am a techie by trade but in the car I don't bother with any of that stuff.

I only want or need an AM/FM radio with a CD player and minijack.

At first I thought well I can just rip that thing out and put something else in it's place but then I read that the console is tied into other functions like climate.

I really like this car and want to get one but on the other hand I just can't be bothered with this thing and all of its problems and not knowing what you get when you buy a car until you've had time to work with it.

But I thought I would ask just in case it's possible. Has anyone had any experience with or know anyone who has of ripping the thing out and replacing it with something else? Is it even possible?!

Thanks a lot for your help!

Just my opinion, but one has the perception of a granola eating vegetarian Obama voter car; and the other is a Ford Edge. The Subaru's are popular here in the mountains where I live with the AWD, but my wife's AWD Edge continues to impress me in the snow and ice. It does better than my Expedition, at least until the really deep snow and limited ground clearance of the Edge becomes a plow. I would put the Edge up against any Subaru for bad weather driving. The turbo Subaru engine might be better for performance, but I have real hot rods for peformance. The Edge is for driving to work and getting through the bad weather safely.

I registered to this forum just so I could respond to this!! (No I'm just kidding I have a real question about the Edge which I'm posting in a different topic area.) I live in Utah and just about every other car you see is a Subaru. Considering 90% of Utah folks are some kind of conservative, the math is that most of those people are not Obama voters - but they might be granola eating veggies!!!

I haven't done extensive research on the AWD capabilities of the various vehicles but I see a version of this video released every year or two:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaIrVPu0RN4

which appears to say the Subaru implementation of the AWD system is best. Since this is just a test, someone driving in any vehicle in snow may not notice a difference of course if they can get through just fine!

I have a 2007 Forester and if I didn't hate it so much for a variety of reasons I would get another one - so my observation is that it's good for two things - it's AWD and reliability!