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  1. I am rather disappointed that this forum has so little activity. It would appear to be a good place to exchange info except no one is posting. Curiuos, no?? I also use the Sync/MFT forum and that one gets considerable activity. Unfortunately, the activity stems from the massive dis-satisfaction most owners have with the technology and the failed upgrade package Ford released last April. I will offer my review of my 2012 Edge Eco-Boost I purchased March 1, 2012 since I now have over 5K miles logged. I will begin with the Sync/MFT system. I took delivery just a few weeks before the release of the infamous "System Upgrade" so my Edge has the pre-upgrade software. I have not upgraded for two reasons; 1) Ford never sent me the promised upgrade package I was supposed to receive by mail, 2) After extensively reading the Sync/MFT forum posts, I will not install the upgrade and ruin the somewhat clunky and tempermental, but useable, version that came with the car. I have learned to tolerate the freezes, gliches, lock-ups, etc., of my system as prefferable to the complete mess the upgrade provides. The only real draw back to not upgrading is I also can not update my navigation system maps. The GPS update requires the installation of the Sync upgrade software for some reason. Another serious misstep by the Ford software developers. Now, on to some good stuff. So far, I have grown quite fond of my new Edge. I love driving it and the performance ot the little 2.0 liter engine has completely suprised me. I have never owned a 4 cylinder powered car before this one. I previously drove a loaded 2001 Jeep Grand Cherokee LImited, 4WD, 4.7 liter V-8, that I drove for 11 years and 118,000 miles. I loved that car, so the decision to go with the Edge Eco-Boost was traumatic, at best. The Edge is not a V-8 Grand Cherokee, but it doesn't seem to know that. It has ample power to accelerate, pass, maintain highway speeds, and, I recently discovered, climb very steep narrow gravel mountain roads while fully loaded. Who knew?? The Edge did not effortlessly idle up the steep roads like the Jeep did but I was surprised that with a little more throttle and some finess, it did quite well. You would have to see the roads it managed to appreciate what I mean. The major reason I went with the Eco-Boost is the obviuos one, gas mileage. I average 23 mpg overall with about 50% city and 50% highway driving. I babied the accelerator at first but now I just drive the car like any other. On the highway I get 25/26 mpg pretty consistently. The EPA claims of 30 mpg are, of course, totally bogus. It is a government produced number so no surprise there. On my last trip to the north Georgia mountains from Orlando, I saved 24 gallons of gas in the Edge over 1550 miles as compared to the same trip made 7 months ago in the Jeep. That equated to $81.36 in savings on gas alone. I am not at all unhappy with those numbers. So, while I am sure no one at Ford gives a rats behind what I think, I will offer them a little grass roots advise. First, you need to promote this 2.0 liter engine with a little more gusto. I couldn't find squat about mileage or performance beyond advertising propaganda before I made my purchase. I had to seek out owners who had recently purchased the Edge on my own. Not an easy task. It was their comments and critiques that caused me to buy this car and not anything Ford had to offer. Ford sales reps actually very subtlely tried to steer me away from the Eco-Boost and toward the V-6. I still wonder why? Second, you need to get your act together with the Sync/ MFT issues. You need to do it now and do it correctly. This issue is going to single handely kill everything you have done well with your product line. No one is going to be willing to pay $40K+ for a high tech vehicle with electronics that perform like early 1980's game consoles. In aviation terms you have "screwed the pooch" with the Sync/MFT system. What ever it takes, what ever it costs, fix it, fix it correctly and do it now! You have managed to build a very fine automobile with an equally poor electonics package. There is absolutely no excuse or logical reason for you not to make it right.
  2. I have noticed the same issue. I have run my fuel down to near empty on two different ocassions and I estimated I had 1 to 1 1/2 gallons left in the 18 gallon tank. One time the nozzle clicked off at 13 gal and I added another 4 gal while it clicked off after about each additional gallon. Second time it clicked off at 13.7 and I went throught the same process to fill the tank. The manual says to stop filling after the first time the pump stops. That would be fine if you only wanted 3/4 of a tank on board. I have tried filling at a slower rate but it still stops at a little over 14 gal and I have to nurse the rest in to get a full tank. I thought I was doing something wrong but apparently others are having similar problems. I felt the "capless" fuel filler was kind of a funky idea to start with and I hope it doesn't develope more quirks in the future. Sometimes if something ain't broke, one should just leave it alone. In almost 50 years of driving I have never had an issue with a gas cap. I'm just sayin'.
  3. O.K. - just returned from my GA. trip. Let me start by saying I am more than thoroughly impressed with the way my new 2012 Edge Limited Eco-Boost drives, handles, accelerates, and the comfort and quietness of the cabin. Holy-moly I love driving this car!! We put 1080 miles on this journey and now have a little over 2500 miles total on the odometer. The trip we took is one we have made many times to the same area. I was so comfortable that I had very little fatigue compared to other recent trips. I attributed this to chance on the way up, but I felt just as good on the return trip. It ain't chance, this thing is just a joy to drive. The little 2.0L engine is a marvel. It accelerated on to heavily congested, fast moving Atlanta area expressways effortlessly. We travelled very hilly 2 lane secondary roads with 4 adults on board and the cruise set to 45 mph. It went up the steep hills and down with absolutely no effort. It down shifted going up occassionally but did so smoothly. I had to be looking at the tach to notice a change in RPM. I exited a rest area in south GA. that is in a construction area. There are no merge lanes due to the construction and I had to stop and wait for an opening to enter the thru lane in heavy traffic. I found an opening between two 18 wheelers so I "floored" it and the Edge burned rubber and shot out like my former big V-8. I just looked at my wife and said "Holy crap". Now on to the gas mileage. This being my first FWD 4 banger, I am in unfamiliar territory. I have always (47 years) driven rear or AWD V-8's and a few V-6's. On the trip up, I set the trip 1 odometer to zero when I got on the highway and set the cruise on 77mph. I drove right at 400 miles in this mode and I got 25.8 mpg average. While this is far better than my previous ride, it was a little less than I expected. I suppose at 70 mph I could have done 26-27mpg, but I could also have gotten run over. On the return trip I drove 280 miles on 8.5 gallons from NW of Atlanta to Valdosta averaging 75 mph. Pretty darn good! South of Valdosta I hooked up with a cluster of cars that were moving at, shall we say, a much higher velocity than I normally drive. I decided to hang with them for a while and did so for about 150 miles. At that pace, I was getting 19mpg on the econo-meter. That little excursion knocked the total trip average down significantly and I got 23.6 for the entire round trip. As a point of information, the Edge handles the higher speeds like a sports car. Can't say enough about that. Bottom line, 26-27 mpg is probably the best I can expect under optimal highway conditions at the speed limit. Push it a little harder and the mpg takes a hit. 28-30 mpg is an EPA myth as is most other government issued propoganda. I will accept the lower real world mileage because in every other aspect, Ford has built a very fine automobile. If it continues to deliver the performance and the current or slightly better mpg in the future, I am a satisfied customer.
  4. We have a 2012 Edge Limited EcoBoost we took home 3/1/12. It has 1400 miles so far and I am getting 22.1 average with 60% highway and 40% city driving. On my last fill up today I checked the trip odometer and it showed 22.8 since the last fill up. That is the best I have seen to date. I have noticed the overall average mileage on the Eco gauge does not change very much at all and hovers within a tenth +/- of 22 mpg. I can get 27-28 mpg at 60 mph, but at highway speeds of 70-75 mph mileage declines rapidly. I get about 23 mpg at those speeds and I have noticed that even a mild head wind (10-12 mph) knocks the mpg way down at any speed. This kind of mileage, in my humble opinion, sucks. I am waiting to see if the engine and transmission computers analyze my "driving habits" and make the proper adjustments to increase the mpg to acceptable levels. I have a feeling that may be a bunch of techno-babble but time will tell. I consider my driving habits as moderate and I have been deliberately trying to be gentle with the accelerator to boost the mpg. I am deffinately driving it "easier" than I ever drove my V-8 Jeep. It wanted to run and I usually allowed it do so. As a point of reference, I traded a 2001 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited, 4.7L V-8, full time AWD, with 117,000 miles on it for the EcoBoost. The Jeep got 16-18 mpg city and 20-22 highway. It got 18-19 city and 23 highway several years ago before we had to burn corn polluted gas (ethanol). Last October we drove from Orlando to Chicago and back in the Jeep and averaged 21.5 for the entire trip, nearly all (95%) highway driving. I offer this information as comparison with the mileage I am getting from the 2.0L turbo EcoBoost. We are going on our first extended trip soon from Orlando to North Georgia and back. I am waiting, and hoping, that I get significantly better mpg from my new "Eco" car than I did from my "gas hog" V-8 Jeep. At this juncture, I am very concerned that I made a bad decision spending a thousand bucks on an engine that gets 1-2 mpg more than the V-8 that I loved very much. I could have had a new Grand Cherokee for a few thousand bucks more than the Edge. That said, I like everything else about the Edge very much and mileage disappointment aside, I enjoy everything about the new car. The little engine is spunky and quiet and pulls the car along very nicely. This is my first "4 banger" and I must say I am impressed. The Edge rides nicely, handles well, is quiet inside and the gadgets and electronics are useful and fun to use. It is smoother and more quiet than the Jeep and handles slightly better. Now if the little engine that could actually does, I will be O.K. with my attempt to go green.
  5. We took delivery of our 2012 Edge EcoBoost Limited 3/1/12 and we have about 1400 miles on it so far. Combined highway/ city (60/40) driving we are getting about 22.8 mpg. Not too impressed with the mpg so far. We love everything else about the Edge. It is quiet, comfortable, seems to have plenty of acceleration and power, handles nicely and is fun to drive. The MFT (pre-update version) had one lock up several days after we brought it home, but no glitches since. Everything seems to work just fine now. We have not received the MFT update from Ford as yet and, after reading in the owners forum the issues others are having after installing the update, I think I will skip it. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Either the owners on that forum are a bunch of goof balls or the update is a complete POS. Unless or until my MFT starts to cause problems, I am going to leave it alone. We are heading out on our first 1200 mile round trip in a few days and I am curious to see what kind of mpg we get on the road. I can get 27/28 at 60 mph fairly easily but, at 70-75 it drops off very rapidly to 23/24mpg or so. This has been my experience on short 30-35 mile runs at 70/75 mph. If the Edge does not do MUCH better than that on a long 450 mile run at steady highway speeds, I am not going to be a happy camper. I traded in a 2001 Jeep Grand Cherokee Limited, 4.7 liter V-8, full time AWD, with 117,000 miles on it that got 21.5 average at 75 mph on a trip to Chicago from Orlando and back last October. If I only get 1-2 mpg more from a high tech turbo that I paid a thousand bucks extra for, I am going to go over to the dark side and Ford ain't gonna like me much. That may be premature at this point so I will wait until I see for my self what this 2.0L turbo is really capable of delivering. The trip from Orlando to north Georgia and back should reveal what this thing is really made of. More to follow in a few weeks.
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