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On 11/26/2019 at 2:08 PM, TXFRDOwner said:

For the price you bought this cluster, I'd sit on it for a while until someone makes a breakthrough in figuring this thing out.

That's what I was thinking but I'm not sure if anyone else at all is working on it or will be. 

I also noticed it doesn't show any Lincoln or Nautilus branding during the time I used it so if I was able to get it working with my steering wheel buttons and all other features, I'd probably keep the current theme. All the Lincoln sounds and graphics are really cool compared to the Ford ones.

2 hours ago, TXFRDOwner said:

 

 

 

Don't you wish programming the Steering Controls was as easy as this 

 

 

If only. Last time I tried doing it required so much work and it still never fully worked with the newer cluster. Though that was for a completely different make and model vehicle. 

Just an update: ordered the custom harness from TXFRDOwner which came in super fast. Finally got to try out the Nautilus cluster tonight.

It turns on, but as I expected, not all of the steering wheel buttons worked. Dan at the Fusion forums said something about him using a 2017+ MKZ steering wheel control module (SCCM) but I don't know if that fixed his button issue 100% or not.

It also of course had quite a few error messages that can be ironed out with ForScan (i.e. adaptive cruise malfunction, collision alert malfunction, etc.) but it did of course work well with the few things I could try - digital speedometer readout, TPMS readout, radio station, trip readout/reset, but that was about it.

Gonna think on what I want to do next. I'm not totally sure the euro Edge lens will be good for this IPC, as to me it seems like it would cut off some of the LCD display. The MKX cluster has a more rounded design on the bottom and sides and this is just flat. If that's the case, it wouldn't really be worth the install, and I may just get rid of the Nautilus cluster. Long story short though it may not be a totally impossible job.

Before I consider spending any $$ online for wiring diagrams, does anyone else following this thread have access to the wiring/pinouts on the 2015-2018 Edge? I just need to see what the pinout is for the IPC connector and I hate to have to pay to get that one answer. Otherwise I could just buy the harness from TXFRDOwner without really knowing if the pins need rearranging but that will be taking a shot in the dark.

4 hours ago, omar302 said:

 

Hope it goes well. Keep us updated. I am really bored with stock cluster, been seeing it since 2012 and I hate the useless way the information displays are devided. With the round tacometer you can't get any other vehicle information.

Will do. TXFRDOwner actually seems to already have a compatible harness made from someone else doing a Continental cluster retrofit in a Fusion. Depending on how much he wants for it I'll gladly give it a shot.

He stated that the guy doing that conversion got it to turn on but it has issues with some of the existing steering wheel controls not working on the new cluster due to firmware incompatibility. So that would likely be my case and another project to tackle. If DanMc85 can't get around that himself (he's the one at the Fusion forums doing this and he is a godsend at programming) then I know I won't be able to do it either. We shall see. 

5 hours ago, onyxbfly said:

 

Glad to hear that you received your cluster! Things are getting interesting! You're definitely making progress! Drop @TXFRDOwner a line. He makes custom harnesses.  

Perfect, I'm already in touch with him since (if this works out) I'll be getting the lens from him. Maybe he can get something figured out. 

I had ordered a 2018-19 style intelligent access key fob back when I had my 2012 Limited in the slight hope that it would work on that car. It didn't, but I held onto it and now have a 2016 SEL. 

I followed the instructions in this thread since I had both original fobs and got it done on the very first try. Works perfect and to me looks better than the 15-17 style. 

Just for reference, the first pic is the 15-17 style and the latter is the newer one. Not sure if this is considered a "mod" but just sharing in case someone may be curious. FWIW mine was a used fob already programmed to another car beforehand.

Nautilus cluster has arrived...but the connector on the back is definitely different than that of the MKX/Edge clusters. If anyone has any ideas I would be interested to hear them. I want to avoid cutting any wires on my Edge, but if I could just take the pins out of the current connector and rearrange them in the new one, I'd be down for that. Would just need access to pinouts for both cars to see if it's all the same wires in a different arrangement or what. 

10 hours ago, onyxbfly said:

 

Thanks for the heads up! Can you send me a link to the seller?  Are you going to program it, or have some one do it for you? I might have to do this conversion if I can get a IPC cheap enough.   Drop @TXFRDOwner a line he can get you a lense/ mask that will fit.

Definitely- Here's the seller I got mine from. I don't have much experience with IPC programming past enabling a few features using Forscan. I'm sure I'll need assistance, from what I understand IDS is required? I'm still a bit muddy on what all is involved. So I'll probably have to have some help. I'll shoot TXFRDOwner a message for the lens, thanks for the heads up there. 

8 hours ago, omar302 said:

 

Seeing that the new Explorer and Escape both come with a fully digital cluster, I'd expect them to have the same hardware. So a Ford graphics firmware would be easy. I remember reading somewhere that these new gauges work differently. But not sure. Following several forums across different Ford models gets me mixed-up. Your project is very interesting because I wouldn't have to worry about units as I was not able to source a good Km/h guage for my Edge.

That's good to know. I was thinking it wouldn't be so hard since the Explorer has it (I wasn't aware of Escape but I don't keep up with them), I'm sure the Edge would have to be getting it. As long as I can get it to not say Lincoln or some incorrect Ford model I'd be happy.

1 hour ago, onyxbfly said:

 

You're the first person to do a SYNC 3 conversion in a edge.  Now you will be the first person to do a Nautilus cluster swap!

 

I Look forward to your project!  I was interested in the Nautilus cluster as well. When I was shopping for clusters the Nautilus cluster was only available from the dealership.  I can imagine that the Nautilus have started popping up in salvage yards.  

The Sync 3 project was awesome! It was pretty easy which I expected based on doing the same swap in my 2014 Fusion. I'm just glad my 16 Edge already has it so I didn't have to worry about it!

You might keep your eyes peeled on ebay and car-part.com while the Nautilus is so new, because the yards aren't gonna know how high to price them. I just bought mine on eBay for $80 shipped, and it looks like 1 other sold from the same yard for $111. 

I'm not too worried about the connection, I really just need help finding the parts that make the MKX cluster fit and also have no idea what I'll do about the Lincoln-branded graphics. As long as I can replace the logo with Ford in some OEM looking way, that would be awesome.

I've got a cluster from a 2019 Nautilus on the way for my 16 SEL, the one with the 12.3" display. Ford Etis lists the car as "16-18 MKX, 19- NAUTILUS" so my bet is that the overall shape and wiring has not changed. This could be a fun project.

So, all you need to do is load the as built data onto the new APIM and your good to go?

 

In which case, you can get your car specific as built file here: https://www.motorcraftservice.com/AsBuilt

If only it were that easy! Unfortunately, even inputting your own AB data from that website will not get Sync 3 to fully work. Some of the values just don't carry over from Sync 2 AB data to Sync 3 - however, I think using your own AB data is a good start. I spent a lot of time comparing values from my 2012's AB data and values from a 2017 Edge equipped exactly the same as mine (albeit with heated steering wheel and cooled seats) and managed to eventually tweak it enough to be 100% compatible. It takes trial and error though.

In todamgood4U's case, his Edge already has all the same options mine did, so he did not need to program anything when he got it. It was completely plug and play. But in most cases, you will need to tweak the AB data to get everything working 100%.

Looks great! Told you youd love it! ?

Hey Gortty I just now saw this - do you still need my .ab file? I think I should have it still but I did change computers so I'll have to look.

On another note, I no longer have my Edge and if anyone is interested, my kit is for sale on eBay - I think provided what is all included compared to the others it's a pretty fair deal. Not looking to make a killing off of it like others. Hopefully this not against forum rules to share but if so mods feel free to remove.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/192302330993?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1558.l2649

That is very good to know - I thought I had read somewhere that the Focus/Escape Sync 3 was "different" but wasn't sure how, and was about to purchase a Sync 3 system from a C-Max for my '14 Fusion.

I honestly cannot really pinpoint how I managed to get 2 levels of heating - it did have 3 when I first played around with it. I just kept having to change values in the as built data, if I remember right all or most of it was accomplished changing values within the first two lines of as built data for the APIM.

Navigation does function 100% correctly on the IPC with Sync 3. If you haven't yet returned or sold your Escape module + screen combo, I'd play around with it until you got it fully set up for the Edge and save the profile, so that all you have to do is flash the saved profile to your new setup when it gets there.

That is correct, you just swap the Sync 2 brackets over to the Sync 3 screen and trash the old ones. I think they were held in with Torx screws.

I always say the full address including city and state, minus the ZIP code and that works fine on my Sync 3 system.

If not that then I leave out the state, I can't exactly remember which. But I know I do at least say the full street address and city.

Thanks guys, good to know...I may have to try them someday and compare. These will do for now, but it'll be interesting to see how much of a real difference there will be.

I can get a night time pic soon, but they're plenty bright. I wouldn't say they're bright enough to really warrant tapping the included dimmer wire so that they dim when the headlights are on, but I may try that out later just for fun. They're noticeable, and much more so than the factory strips, but certainly not enough that oncoming traffic will think you're too bright.

I know a few of you guys with 11-14s have either had or have the DriveBright DRL kit for the Edge. Can anyone comment on the actual brightness of the LEDs?

Asking because the iJDM version of these are $50 cheaper and I just installed them on my own Edge (DRL only for now, will wire turn signal later). But to me, they don't seem very bright. In direct sunlight they aren't very noticeable whereas plenty of OEM LED lights are plenty bright even in bright daylight.

Just need to know if it would be worth the extra $50 - these are okay but I was hoping for something a bit brighter. If they are similar then I'll just stick with what I got. The pics do make them look less bright than in person.

Great, thanks guys! Glad to know it's normal.

Just wanted to see if this is normal operation or if I need to check into it.

When opening my Vista Roof, I push the open button quickly and let go and it opens fine. However, when closing, I pull the button and quickly let go, and the glass closes almost the whole way except maybe 1ft? And from there, it will only close if I pull the button and hold it until it is closed. If I let go it stops right then.

I just figured "express close" means you pull it once, let go, and it should completely shut on its own. At least my previous cars were like this, which is why I wonder why this one acts this way. But it stops at the exact same spot every single time.

For what it's worth, I have performed the initialization process successfully about 2 or 3 times now with the same results.

I have yet to install it but my camera on my 2012 died (for a bit...but now it works?) so I bought a camera from a 2016 Edge for $60, and it looks exactly the same as the 2011-2014 camera, so I am sure it will work. Much better than the $250 to $350 I was seeing for the older ones.

This sounds like an ACM issue - you may already know but the ACM is the actual radio/tuner module which is separate from the APIM. And a lot cheaper to replace. This one is an example.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/12-2012-Ford-Edge-Single-Disc-CD-Player-AM-FM-MP3-Radio-Receiver-OEM-LKQ-/311884796785?fits=Year%3A2012%7CMake%3AFord%7CModel%3AEdge&hash=item489dc85371:g:oxAAAOSwX61ZLbz2&vxp=mtr

Yeah if you don't have Sony it's not gonna be there. You'd have to buy a new radio unit (the silver box known as the ACM) that is equipped with Sony/HD radio tuning and flash it to your Edge.