Further North
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have you let the vehicle sit, shut down for at least 5 minutes and then restarted it?
Yes, I let it sit for a half hour while I ate dinner.
It seems it needed longer than that, which is fine...as long as the expectation is set that way by Ford.
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OK...so just for giggles, based on some other websites I checked...I went back out and started it up again...
Maps are back.
Apparently it needed to contemplate its camshaft, or ponder existential life on the Edge...
...Or perhaps it just needed to get the kinks outta its konnectagazoink...
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Can you be more specific than it is gone? Is the nav icon missing, is the nav map area missing, is the nav map area blank and say loading or?
Good question, I edited my post.
The icon is still there, the voice commands will try to work, but I can't get the screen to come up, and on the Home screen, it just tries to load the map.
Looks like it can't find the map to me.
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OK...so I decided to not risk a smaller USB drive and stopped and grabbed a 256 GB one on the way home.
Ran the update...
Weird stuff...first time I restarted the Edge, it thought it was an electric vehicle and my climate control, Nav and radio screens wouldn't display. Volume controls on the steering wheel didn't work either...
Did a re-set.
Everything works, but my Nav is gone...
Edit...NAV is still there...the voice commands still work...but it can't find the map...
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Meaning there is no rhyme or reason when they decide to offer them or not offer them in the US.
Got it, thanks.
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Checking parts list, there is an impact bar with or without the Tow Hook, so probably the outside bumper will match the inside bar, both would be with or without.
Interesting...thanks!
...so I'm back to wondering why...
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Because tow hooks are required by law in Europe, not because the mfr just decided to put them there. It’s luck of the draw whether they decide to carry them over to the US or not.
I don't understand what you mean by "luck of the draw".
It's a conscious decision on someone's part.
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Further North
I used a 16gb drive to update mine yesterday and it worked fine.
Thanks
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Just talking about Tow Hook, the export Edge 2106+ in our case have the small cap on the front bumper & a hook in the super tire area for use when needed.
The 2011+ Explorers have it, but since 2016 it is only present for AWD models.
That's a little frustrating...folks in other countries get an obvious enhancement where at least half the US would find that a useful thing to have.
...makes me wonder why? I wonder if the threaded receptacle is there, under the bumper fascia? I saw one place where that was the case on 2015+ Escapes.
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Blue Ox makes a tow bar mount that is designed for towing the Edge behind a motor home but also includes tow hooks on a model that has removable tow bar arms. Unfortunately it costs about $500 and requires fairly extensive installation work.
https://www.etrailer.com/Base-Plates/Ford/Edge/2016/BX2667.html?vehicleid=201652434
Thanks - that's an interesting idea, and a cool product.
I crawled around on the garage floor last night (we got about another foot of snow, nothing else to do) and it looks like there's nothing down there to easily hook a strap to.
I'm left wondering why they didn't do something similar to the Escape.
It's ironic, but my example above, with the mouth breather driving down the middle of the road, happened to the wife of a friend. She was forced off the road because there was some Gomer in a pick-up in the center of the road coming around a corner. She drives a '14 Edge, and her husband was able to get it out with his F-250. He's a tall guy and he was in snow to his waist.
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I just updated mine using a 4GB USB stick - it took 25 minutes and I just kept the engine idling with my garage door open.
I cant detect any changes.
I found it interesting that the instructions say we have to use a USB drive that's 32GB or greater...I was wondering why.
Glad to see it'll work with a smaller one!
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Stay home.....
Not an option...
...You folks are helpful...
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I've pulled a Crestliner CMV 1850 for 4 seasons now with a '14 Ford Escape with the 2.0L. No problems at all. Each year has included a round trip to Canada and several trip well over an hour from my home.
There is no reason at all to shy away from the 2.0L for towing as long as you pay attention to the limitations.
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AWD & drive out.
I've had AWD and 4WD since the 70s...doesn't help when the wheels aren't touching the ground...
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It lists what is included in the tow package which is what I thought you were referring to.
OK.
I wanted to offer specific info as to where it is, what it says and a link to a place that should continue to provide the same info in the future.
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Jmr061 already posted that info in post #11.
Completely different documents with much more information.
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By the way, in case anyone else goes down this path, this document: https://www.fleet.ford.com/resources/ford/general/pdf/towingguides/Ford_Linc_17RV&TTgde_r6_Nov8.pdf
Tells us, on page 16, the answer to my question; The 2017 Edge Tow package (53G) includes:
- Trailer Wiring Harness (4-Pin)
- Hitch Receiver
- Upgraded Cooling Fans
- Radiator Upgrade
- Trailer Sway Control
...not sure why dealers can't tell me that...
It looks the same for 2015, 2016 (both on page 14) and 2018 (also page 16).
...not gonna add all that for reasonable money...
Useful link: https://www.fleet.ford.com/towing-guides/
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Sitting here in NW WI, looking at another 6+ inches of fresh snow...I started wondering, "If we put the Edge in a ditch, perhaps avoiding one of the mouth breathers around here who drive in the middle of the road, what does a tow truck, or a friendly neighbor with a pick-up attach to to get this thing out of a ditch?"
On our Escape, there's a panel on the grill that pops off, and you can screw in a hook you can buy from Ford.
I looked at the front of the Edge, no such critter.
Nothing in the manual, either...All I get is this:
Ford Motor Company produces a towing manual for all authorized tow truck operators. Have your tow truck operator refer to this manual for proper hook-up and towing procedures for your vehicle.
...I may be old and cynical, but I'm not convinced that tow truck operators are going to take the time to get, and read that manual before they attach something to my Edge and break off part of the bumper fascia, or bend a suspension part...or whatever.
...is that what's available?
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A much better solution.
You'd think it'd be something you could add, and I'd have preferred to stay with the 2.0L...but the 3.5L is what's available and I'm tired of dealing with the problem.
Adding a hitch, wiring, coolers, and hoping they could switch the anti-sway on was beginning to approach $1,000, with no guarantee of success and no warranty...
This was easier back in the old days...
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Solved the problem: Swapped if for another Edge with a few more miles, the towing package, a V6 (not my preference), Ford Certification and a new set of tires...
Cost us $248.00
Sometimes thinking out of the box is the best way to go.
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I believe the frontal area is for the trailer, not the car.
I was thinking it was both, together, seen from the front.
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Not the frontal area of what you’re towing, the frontal area of the vehicle that’s available to feed the cooling system. Reference the grille reinforcement that Omar posted.
So I went back and looked at the front of our '17 Edge...and measured some stuff...and thought about this...
30 sq. ft. is 10 ft. x 3 ft.
...or using simple sq. root...5.477' x 5.477'.
No way the cooling area of a '17 Ford Edge even approaches that...on its best day...
The grill is...at best...if it were a rectangle...and it's not...42" x 12" = 504 sq. inches = 3 1/2 sq. ft.
There's no way that 3.5 sq. ft. grill is reaching out to almost 8.6x its size to grab air...clip out the angles at the corners, and I doubt ot's 3.0 sq. ft...might be close...but not important...
What am I missing?
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Not the frontal area of what you’re towing, the frontal area of the vehicle that’s available to feed the cooling system. Reference the grille reinforcement that Omar posted.
Got it, thanks.
Tow Hooks, 2016 Edge
in Cargo, Hauling, Roof Racks & Towing
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When I looked at the PDF I linked to above, it actually shows where they are supposed to hook up.
Because I am old, and cynical, and I feel like if it was hard to get to that hook up point (because that Edge is high centered in a ditch full of snow, for instance) a tow operator could easily take the easy route and wrap a chain 'round an axle...which could easily damage something.
What I did was print out that document, flag the page with the Edge on it, and stuff it in the glove box.
I will use it to review with a tow operator if a situation ever comes up.