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The Outrage

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  1. Update: Per McGard, the correct lug nuts for use on a 2011 or 2012 Ford Edge Sport, in chrome black, are model number 64030. I purchased some McGard lug nuts, model 64029. For those who have installed aftermarket lug nuts; will these work properly? Are the lugs' overall length sufficient to adequately secure the wheel? The specifications follow: Type: Cone Seat Bulge Thread Size: 1/2" - 20 Overall Length: 1.45"
  2. An forthcoming software revision for the 2012 Edge power lift gate routine has been confirmed by Ford personnel on the Ford Edge Facebook page. Personally, I wouldn't have a dealership mess with the latch's location further before having the permanent solution installed. This begs the question: Why don't the dealerships know about these upcoming updates?
  3. Ford's OEM cargo cover is a piece of garbage. I ordered my Edge with the Cargo Accessory Package. The cargo cover has a horrible fit, is installed using ridiculous means, and looks awful once in use. I removed mine almost immediately after purchasing the Edge.
  4. Did it say "Stuck" or "Stoich"? "Stoich" is short for stoichiometric which refers to the air to fuel ratio. Running "rich" refers to a air to fuel ratio which contains too much fuel for the given volume of air. "Lean" would refer to the opposite, too little fuel for the given volume of air. The O2 (oxygen) sensors measure the oxygen content of the exhaust gases. This is used to determine if the engine is running rich or lean. The mass air flow sensor readings determine the amount of fuel which is injected into the engine. Since the intake was modified, and the MAF sensor was repositioned, the MAF readings no longer match the stock intake's typical values. This is causing the ECU to command that additional fuel be added which is making the engine run rich. This can cause stumbling and a lack of power. It can also cause the catalytic converters to become clogged if allowed to continue for an extended period of time.
  5. Here is what I suspect is happening, based on previous tuning experiences: The mass air flow sensor, or other additional intake sensors, are more than likely reading a higher volume of air. To compensate for the increased air volume, additional fuel is being injected by the ECU. This is probably flooding the engine which could manifest itself in the way you describe. One way to determine if this is happening is to record the oxygen sensor readings in order to measure the engine's operating air to fuel ratio.
  6. The more agressive tire (Pirelli Scorpion Zero) on the Edge Sport likely contributes to the higher steering effort due to its higher grip rubber compound. Additionally, the tire's section width on the Edge Sport is 265 mm versus 245 mm on all other models. That means more rubber contact on the road, thus, greater friction working again the power steering mechanism. While the greater unsprung weight of the 22 inch wheels may decrease the vehicle's acceleration, the lower sidewall profile should also reduce sidewall flex while cornering. Ford equips a shorter final gear ratio on the Edge models with 20" and 22" wheels to compensate for the increased mass. Any wheel control issues relating to the higher unsprung weight should be handled by the revised suspension components of the Edge Sport. While complaining about the unsprung weight of larger diameter wheels seems to be in vogue, understanding the attributes and consequences are more complicated than "smaller = better". If Ford's target was improved transient response (turn-in) and maintaing the tire's contact patch under higher loads, decreasing the tires sidewall profile may have been the best course of action, from an engineering perspective. If Ford's target was increased tire compliance (better ride quality), increasing the sidewall profile would may been the better course of action. In any case, Ford offers a wide array of tire and wheel combinations on the Ford Edge: 17", 18", 20", and 22". There should be something in there to suit almost anyone's preference. If one values the smoothest ride, the Sport model, with increased spring rates and lower profile tires, may not be the best choice. I'm just glad Ford offers me the choice rather than only offering what the lowest common denominator demands. That may be one of the reasons why the Sport model only accounts for 5% of the total production.
  7. Typically, the ignition timing is retarded when detonation (knock) occurs. The higher air temperatures created by a forced induction system (such as a turbocharger) compressing the intake air will lead to an increased possibility of detonation. That is why forced induction (and higher compression) engines typically require a higher octane fuel. I'd only expect decreased occurrences of detonation, not additional horsepower with a higher octane than recommended. It is probably more accurate to say that you may not experience as much of a loss from the rated output using a higher octane under very specific conditions. With that said, if the engine's ignition mapping was tuned to work with 87 octane, I'd think the normal knock levels are within reason (modern engine tend to run lean to consume most of the injected fuel and thus decrease emissions).
  8. I ordered my 2012 with the Cargo Accessory Package. It included the OEM rear bumper protector. The protector doesn't shield the bumper's edge at all, but the horizontal side is covered to some degree. In any case, I don't purposefully drag things across my bumper. I ordered it only as a precautionary measure.
  9. I've had the same problems with my 2012 model. I'm hoping it's a matter of breaking in the seal.
  10. How about any changes to the camber?
  11. What about matching the dampeners (struts) to the increased spring rate?
  12. My 2012 Edge Sport uses the same glossy black plastic console panel. It is identical to the one found on the 2011 model. Lower trim levels, which aren't equipped with the Sony audio system, use a matte bronze plastic panel instead.
  13. What are the recommended (safe) jacking points on 2012 Edge AWD when using a floor jack? Any assistance would be appreciated.
  14. Here are the changes specified in the 2012 order guide: New Colors Ginger Ale Metallic (JY) Mineral Gray Metallic (TK) Cinnamon Metallic (HT) Dark Blue Pearl Metallic (DX) Black (UA) Deleted Colors Mediterranean Blue Metallic Earth Metallic Bordeaux Red Reserve Metallic Kona Blue Metallic Tuxedo Black Metallic You can definitely order a Red Candy Edge for 2012; I have one such order in the system right now. Here's the full list for 2012: Paint Name Dark Blue Pearl Metallic Cinnamon Metallic Ginger Ale Metallic Red Candy Metallic Tinted Clearcoat Mineral Gray Metallic Black White Platinum Tri-Coat Metallic Ingot Silver Metallic White Suede5
  15. I had an opportunity to drive an Edge Limited and MKX back to back at a dealership. I found the Edge and the MKX were extremely similar in overall dynamics. The first thing that struck me was that the MKX is quieter than the Edge. I believe the Lincoln uses thicker glass and heavier sound insulation. The interior of the MKX contains dash and console stitching rather than the molded plastic in the Edge. The wood trim in the MKX in real wood rather than the faux wood found in the Edge Limited. The front seats are cooled and heated in the MKX rather than only heated as in the Edge. I found the MKX seats use softer padding and more supple leather. I didn't like the MKX seats as much as the ones found in the Edge, personally. I thought they were too soft and would be more fatiguing over time. The MKX comes equipped with the 3.7 liter V6 rather than the 3.5 liter variant which resides in the non-Sport Edge models. I found little difference between the two in overall maximum acceleration. The 3.7 liter V6 felt slightly stronger in the mid-range, but this didn't amount to a huge difference overall. The steering and body control seemed close to identical in my drives. IMO, unless you really like the aesthetic changes to the interior, or the different exterior styling, there isn't much which would push someone toward a higher-priced MKX over a similar Edge Limited. The Edge Sport nets you the same drivetrain, 22 inch wheels (18 inch wheels are still standard on the MKX), and more distinctive exterior styling than the MKX. A loaded Edge Limited comes with the bulk of the features of a loaded MKX for far less coin. A loaded Edge Limited or Sport model tops out near an entry level MKX.
  16. Currently, the SRX may be discounted due to an upcoming engine swap for the 2012 model year. It is reported that the 3.0 liter V6 will be replaced by a 3.6 liter variant.
  17. I've test driven a Jeep Grand Cheokee Overland. While the Grand Cherokee overlaps the Edge in price, its overall character is completely different. The Jeep Grand Cherokee has a much higher steering ratio. I was doing far more hand-over-hand maneuvering in the Jeep. Also, the Grand Cherokee's ride is more nervous and body roll is significantly higher. The model I drove (Overland) had the adjustable air suspension. While the 5.7 liter V8 looks impressive on paper, it motivates the Grand Cherokee with roughly the same forward momentum as the Edge with its 3.5 liter V6 engine. This is likely due to the much higher curb weight of the Grand Cherokee. Dynamically, the Grand Cherokee and Edge are nothing alike. The Jeep feels like a "truck" whereas the Ford responds like a "crossover". Between the additional ground clearance provided by the air suspension and the multiple AWD modes I have little doubt the Grand Cherokee is the more capable off-roader. Personally, I place a significantly higher priority on on-road performance versus off-road ability. The Ford Edge is similar in "feel" to the Mazda CX-7 and Nissan Murano.
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