Carhaul Rich

Very cool, it looks like you are on the right path. I forgot about factory signal output equalizations being messed with. The CleanSweep looks like a must have addition. When I picked up the Edge, the sales guy boosted the bass and cut the mids in the radio interface, and said 'doesn't it sound like a premium system?' - all he did was remind me how bad it really sounds. Thanks for the reply, and I look forward to your updates!

Okay, perhaps I should rephrase: Does anyone know where I can find the specs and inputs/outputs of a non-SONY MFT 2014 audio system? When I took delivery and a dealer associate was familiarizing me with MFT, he went to the BASS/TREB/MId settings in the audio screen. He bumped the bass and treble nearly full blast, and cut the mids at least 6db. He said many customers think that setting makes it sound like the premium SONY set up. All it showed me was how weak (thin) that the standard MFT audio system is. I later set everything back to flat. I guess I'll swap out speakers first and see where that gets me. I almost forgot, I found the JL Stealth sub for under 600.00. That still seems like a lot to me, but at least it is heading in the right direction. I may not need it anyway, but it'd be nice to have. I'm pretty sure the Pioneers I am interested in will be pretty thumpy on their own, and with Infinity Kappas in the front it should be a good match. I'm not looking for boom.

I'm new to the Edge world, six months ago I didn't even know I wanted one! I just bought a new SEL, and as many of you know, the factory audio is just barely adequate. I also bought a used '08 Mountaineer last spring, Premier trim level, and the Mountaineer audio blows the new Edge sound away. That just ain't right, so I gotta fix it. I have My Ford Touch, (as did the Mountaineer, first generation before they called it MFT). I have no idea what the factory amp outputs, the gauge of the speaker wire, outputs, if any under the dash, and so on and so forth. Any help here would be appreciated. I'd like to upgrade the audio without breaking the bank. I'm thinking for starters Infinity Kappas for the fronts and Pioneer 2-ways for the back. I don't know if the stock amp has the power to drive them. I also like the idea of the sub in the small storage compartment in the back, but I don't want to spring for 700 bucks for JLs (or whatever it's named) which would also require a dedicated amp. If I did go with a sub, I'd probably set it at 4. I'm into rock, blues, and talk, so I'm not looking for big boom which can be heard for two blocks away. Just decent. clear, full-spectrum fidelity. So if you know the factory audio specs and outputs, the speaker gauge wire, if you think I should add an amp, (I probably should) let me know what you would do to upgrade things. The speakers I've selected will only set me back around 150. A suitable amp will run about 100-150. I have no idea where it should be mounted. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks!

an iPhone/Android app would be a great help. (I can already control my ATT uVerse TV from my phone) I'd love to project my phone mapping screen to the MFT screen, too, while I'm wishing, LOL! Garmin, Tom-Tom, and Google Maps would be out of business if they only updated their maps every two years. Highways change daily at times. bummer. Ford is obviously trying to monetize a profit center here. I'm quite sure they are not alone. I'm reminded of Mercedes installing 2000.00 cell phones in center arm-rests in the late eighties.

I took delivery of my Edge last week, and after reading this, I am pleased that I did not buy the Nav pack. I have always been suspicious of factory Nav packs from any manufacturer, and this thread simply confirms my suspicions. There are plenty of third party GPS Navigation systems available with free lifetime updates around for under 500 bucks, and some are closer to 200 bucks. For me, I'll stick with my iPhone and Google Maps, which is updated daily. Who is Navteq, anyway? My apologies to bump an old thread.

That is certainly true for specialty vehicles, such as the 2012-2013 Boss 302s and the 2013-2014 Shelby GT500s. Dealer allocation was based solely on previous dealer Mustang sales.

My '01 F-150 4.2 V6 called for 5w-20, it was one of the few engines that year that was 50 state legal. I'm not sure, but I think it had more to do with tighter tolerances which the lighter oils played well with. I moved to full synthetic 5w-20 after about 30,000 miles, and it still doesn't use oil to this day with 120k on the odometer. I would never dream of changing oil weights, except in an emergency. I'm on a once a year schedule now, and love it.

So each A plan Ford employee also has their own personal X-Plan allotment to dole out? No wonder I have been confused, thanks for clearing that up for me! I've had small-town dealers themselves tell me that they could do as good or better than X-Plan anyway. They probably didn't want to deal with the added paperwork. Still, it does make a good starting point for arm-wrestling, LOL!

Exactly the info that I'll be interested in. My dealer is trading for my Edge with a dealer in Milwaukee. It is supposed to be here today, unfortunately, I won't be here today. I'd love to have the 3.7, I'm pretty sure that is the same engine as the base Mustang. It is only available in the Sport model, and the Sport model is not available with the towing package, so I'll have to make do with the 285 HP 3.5, LOL! By comparison, my '01 F-150 has a 4.2 V6, and it only generates around 210 HP. The small V8 from that model year only developed 220 HP. Things have come a long way in the past decade, which is one reason I'm pulling the trigger now. I'd be surprised to see performance like this ten years from now. (I remember the mid-seventies)

From Ford's X-Plan "How it works" page: <quote> PROGRAM DESCRIPTIONS AND ELIGIBILITY X-Plan Partner Recognition: An eligible Partner Recognition employee or retiree may generate up to two (2) PINs per calendar year to be used towards the purchase/lease of a new vehicle for them or members of their households as noted below (see PIN Generation for details): Employees (full time, part-time and contract), retirees and spouses of eligible Partner companies (suppliers, fleets, etc.) and members of specific organizations or groups. Residents of the same household as listed above(driver’s license required for proof of residency). Participation is by invitation only as determined by Ford Motor Company. Not all suppliers, fleets, etc. are eligible. </quote> I do not have any first-hand knowledge of Ford dealers honoring X-Plan pins without verification. So I mis-spoke. I stated that solely on the number of posts from people asking for them across the web. Also, my local dealer is a no-haggle dealer. Anyone can walk in and get very close to X-Plan pricing right off of the street. The difference in my case was pretty much the doc fee.

BTW, I have a legitimate X-Plan. I am shocked that Ford seems to honor Pins without proof of association with partners. You are not supposed to be able to just hand them out. My local dealer will give anyone very close to X-Plan anyway, the difference was about 200 bucks.

And I've ordered my first Edge, although I primarily haul Taurus's and Explorers. Along with nearly every other make with wheels. My daily driver is a 2001 F-150 regular cab, short-bed, with a 5 over manual trans, Ford doesn't even offer them anymore. A 2008 was the last manual that I saw, tho Ford might have built a few manual trans 150s in 2009. I also have a rebuilt '08 Mountaineer AWD, which we are very happy with. I gave it to my girl friend. Hopefully, she will be able to plow right through her 500 foot drive when it drifts over with snow when the north-west winds blow lake effect snows. After last winter, we're going to install some snow fencing too. While looking for a car for Kay, I found a nearly perfect '08 Edge on my local dealer lot. She said she didn't want to pay the 18k they were asking for it. I figured that I'd buy it, but I knew it wouldn't last long. It only had one very tiny paint defect, about a quarter inch, with very low (40k) miles. I was right, that Edge was gone two days later. At first I didn't understand why anyone would buy an Edge over an Explorer, they seem so similar, excepting the third row seating, and an Explorer doesn't really cost that much more. Then I hauled a few off-lease '12 Edges from one of Ford's marshaling yards to the auction with the tow packs, and I was impressed. Sporty dual exhaust tips and a full-blown two inch receiver, plus the same engine/drivetrain as the Explorer! I decided to bite the bullet and order out my third new car ever. (the F-150 was also new, at fire-sale pricing). I am awaiting a Deep Impact Blue SEL with the 205a pack, Appearance pack, and tow package. It is really strange that most dealers do not typically spec the tow pack, for 395 bucks, sticker, it is a huge bargain, IMHO. This same car is featured in the official Ford brochure, too. At any rate, I'm hoping that you guys can help me out with further engine and custom mods in the following years. I really want a Mustang, but a pony just doesn't work for me. And yes, I've hauled plenty of them too!