ONEDGE16

17 minutes ago, 1004ron said:

Thanks for the heads up - a little pissed that I need to pay for my 2017 Sport.

 

Would be good to know how "up to date" this release is, ....... hate to pay and find the maps are as outdated as they were when I purchased my Sport.

extracted from the site home page looks like they will still be about 1.5 years old 

*With This Update You Will Find:

There may be thousands of navigation data points changing every day, but we’ll help you get there with care.

*Data points above represent the changes in the HERE Map Database between Q1 of 2017 and Q1 of 2018. Exact data may vary by product.

Downloading my map updates right now (10.9 GB). Free for online download (complimentary option), $40+shipping for USB. 

6 hours ago, omar302 said:

 

Once the ST badge is removed, will it leave a blank space were it was that is visible?

it is  black on black, but still will retain the overall shape of the ST lettering.  Not very noticeable as the front ST badge is relatively small.

11 hours ago, cardnilogical4417 said:

I am looking to find a honeycomb style grille to replace the ugly chrome up front. I don't want to do the  grill swap because the ST is in the grille and its not an ST. Anyway I've been all over the interweb and I'm coming up empty. I was wondering if anyone on here has had any luck finding something similar? 

Looking for black honeycomb style or just even black. 

The ST on the grille is attached with double sided adhesive and can be removed. A bit of heat from a hair dryer, some dental floss and goops remover to clean up the left overs from the double sided adhesive and it's all gone. Other option is to cover the ST with a small piece of gloss black Vinyl wrap.

By default you only get the heated steering wheel on the screen. Cooled/heated seats have physical buttons on the main centre console. If you want then on the main screen, you can add them using Forscan.

no significant changes:

14 hours ago, Bxp said:

It is coming out very fuzzy whether I print or try to read.    Any chance you could email it to me at accord75@yahoo.com ?    I hope my dealer is wiling to make these changes.  

BXP. I don't have the original picture as it was posted by Sage, but here's what it reads :

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Comment From: Ford                                  Comment Date: Apr-08-2019 12:42:07

Jonathan,

After additional research, we identified that there are programmable parameters listed in the Active Noise Control (ANC) and Engine Sound Enhancement (ESE). Attempt to disable the ANC/ESE feature by using the programmable parameters within IDS by going to Module Programming > Programmable parameters > DACMC/ACM. If the system is not capable of being disabled through the programmable parameters in IDS, then the ANC system should be able to be deactivated by disconnecting one of the noise cancellation/control microphones; as shown in wiring diagram cell 132-7.

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1 hour ago, DRSE said:

Hey guys,

 

I actually have the same issue with a 2018 Edge Sport. The issue happened rarely when it was new (about a year ago) but now it just wouldn't stop happening. Both back doors (ONLY) vibrate like it's nobody's business and that awful humming noise escalates and then disappears. If I rev the engine, the noise goes away, only to be back after a couple of seconds. Took the car into the shop 3 weeks ago and on the third day, they said they couldn't find the issue and everything was working properly. I went up there and put a 40-pack of water bottles in the trunk, started up the car and let the engine idle down to ~600 RPM and asked the tech to sit in the car and feel the doors and he was perplexed (the doors vibrate both in the inside and outside of the car). Anyway, about a week later they gave me the car back saying the issue was the noise cancelling system and that they replaced the audio control module and that the issue was fixed. Driving the car home after picking it up, I heard that ominous vibration as strong as ever, stopped driving the car, and took it back to the shop. Now they've had the car for about another week and now they will replace the microphone and some insulation in the rear doors. It seems like they're shooting in the dark here, but I will keep this updated. It seems like Ford would have better knowledge about this by now, but it seems they're as lost as ever. I will call in and ask them to deactivate the active noise cancelling system, like ONEDGE16 above me suggested.

 

Just to rehash, the problem only happens when the engine idles around 600 RPM and there is a load in the rear cargo area. There is a vibration that builds up in both back doors, which causes that loud, deep humming noise, and goes away in a few seconds (very consistent and repeatable issue). They replaced the audio control module and nothing.

If the dealers tells you it's not possible, you can reference the thread below. The screen print within the first post of the thread has instructions from Ford on how to access and disable the ANC system using IDS, and the workaround if they are unable to do it via IDS

They should just deactivate the "Active Noise Cancelling system". They can do that using their IDS software.

You can also do it yourself using Forscan

ACM  727-01-01 xxxx  xXxx xxxx  X=0 --> Disable or X=2 --> enabled

Usually this Forscan mode is used to disable the Engine Noise Enhancement (fake engine noise piped in) but it disables the Noise cancelling System as well.

here's another youtube video that shows the simple procedure:

as for tools, you can use a screw driver as shown in the video, or get a trim removal kit:

https://www.amazon.com/Tresalto-Auto-Trim-Removal-Tool/dp/B01L8GHB7O

https://www.amazon.com/Removal-Pliers-Fastener-Remover-Storage/dp/B07HRNKY8P/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_263_img_0?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=R9242NHKR4VJ7JRFJ31W

27 minutes ago, jmr061 said:

OP said he has a 16 Edge Sport...those all came with SYNC3 from the factory.  The software just needs to be at 2.0 or higher and the hub installed.  $479....wtf are they smoking.

Third post in this thread he mentioned, unless he meant Sync 3 V2.0 upgraded to Sync3 V3.0

On 8/19/2019 at 8:53 PM, HockeyShot39 said:

No I just bought the car. It was in sync 2.0 and I upgraded it, but has no apple car play 

In any case, the SSM quoted by the tech says that V 2.0 is required for it and  not V3.0 - but it does mention an update to APIM could be needed.

Sync 3 V 2.0 was release July 2016 and was the first version of Sync 3 to support Apple Carplay and Android Auto

SSM 46561 - May 3 2017 4769 - 2016 Ford And Lincoln MKX - SYNC 3 And Navigation - Apple CarPlay And/Or Android Auto - Customer Pay Upgrade Available

Some customers with 2016 Ford/Lincoln vehicles with SYNC 3 and Navigation may request an upgrade for Apple CarPlay or Android Auto. In General settings and about check if v2.0 is present. If V2.0 is present no software update is needed. Apple CarPlay requires a new Media/USB hub to be installed. Refer to GSB for Apple CarPlay Android Auto upgrade. Follow WSM, Section 415-00 to update APIM if needed. After Installation Complete pop-up, follow PTS instructions and perform a complete ignition cycle by turning the key off for 5 minutes which is critical for a successful installation. The software and hardware upgrade is customer paid as it is not a warrantable repair per the Warranty And Policy Manual, Section 3, Warranty Coverages – SYNC.

G0000135.pdf

1 hour ago, HockeyShot39 said:

Just picked the car up form ford and he said it’s more than the USB - he said it’s a whole computer? 

Most probably got that answer back cause the search/inquiry in the oasis system is based on the Car VIN and as built info, which would have indicated Sync 3 not being installed on the vehicle.

Since you've done the upgrade yourself, you just need to get the USB HUB and do the swap

attached is the repair shop manual for the media hub

Media Hub.pdf

Mini spare is different then regular rims. Regular rims will only take 18" and over

31 minutes ago, vmaxbaby said:

Thank you for the pictures.  I heard the front fit fine but the rear was the biggest issue.  Once I again I feel ford release this car before it should have I mean how much engineering time would it have taken someone with surfcam or solid works software to design one to fit perfect.  SMH.   In fact the first company that does come up with the correct design they will have the market share because everyone will go to them kinda like weather tech their floor mats are in my opinion they best you can get.  A little on the high side but when compared to the others it is worth it.  I would pay extra for stuff that just fit 100%.    Same goes with a CAI if someone made one that worked and didn't suck in hot air I would be all in if the price was under $ 500.00 won't even care if it only added 8 more hp I would do it.   Spent this much on the Edge so a few dollars more isn't going to make be go without eating..LOL  although I could stand to loose a few pounds

The issue with the Ford molded Rear Splash Guard not fitting is not new to the 2019 ST. It was there since inception for the 2015+ MY. It does not fit the 2015-2018 Edge sport. They were only designed to fit SE, SEL & titanium trims. 

Did the switch today. Took about 15 minutes total. What a difference! Thx for the video tutorial.

1 hour ago, IWRBB said:

 

Freedom units please.

26.135 MPG

8 hours ago, enigma-2 said:

Dealers have the procedure for replacing now. But Ford refuses to warranty a dual horn setup. Go figure.

Interresting! They won't warranty a dual horn setup if done outside dealership or as replacement of a defective single tone? Wouldn't they warranty the part itself? What could the swap tk a dual horn cause if the swap procedure is done properly?

Just had a road trip, mainly highway with a bit of back coutry roads. Average speed about 110 KPH. Fuel consumption

There are a couple of SSM for d has issued for this issue and others:

April 11, 2019 MANUFACTURER COMMUNICATION NUMBER: SSM 47925

Components: ELECTRICAL SYSTEM, EQUIPMENT

NHTSA ID Number: 10159506

Manufacturer Communication Number: SSM 47925

Summary

SSM 47925 - 2019 Various Vehicles - SYNC 3 - Infotainment Screen Concerns, Wi-Fi ConnectionMessage, Rear View Camera Operation

Some 2019 vehicles equipped with SYNC 3 may have the following intermittent symptoms: a Wi-Fi connection pop up every key cycle, frozen unresponsive screen, a solid blue screen when moving forward at speeds above 10 mph, the rear view camera remains on the screen at speeds below 10 mph, or poor App performance. To resolve this concern, check for a SYNC software update under the OASIS Tab SYNC selection. If an update is available, update the APIM software per Workshop Manual (WSM), Section 415-00. Follow the onscreen instructions provided by the programming process. To verify success after programming, turn the key off with the dooropen for 5 minutes. Perform this SYNC programming before taking any other repair steps. For claiming, use causal part 14G371 and applicable labor operations inSection 10 of the SLTS manual. APPLICABLE VEHICLES

March 5, 2019 MANUFACTURER COMMUNICATION NUMBER: SSM 47846

Components: ELECTRICAL SYSTEM

NHTSA ID Number: 10156564

Manufacturer Communication Number: SSM 47846

Summary

Some 2019 Mustang, Continental, Fusion, MKZ, F150, Transit Connect, Ranger, Edge or Nautilus with SYNC 3 may have the following intermittent symptoms: a solid blue screen when moving forward at speeds above 10 mph, the rear view camera remains on the screen at speeds below 10 mph, or inoperative infotainment applications. To resolve this concern, check for a SYNC software update under the OASIS Tab SYNC selection. If an update is available, update the APIM software per WSM section 415-00. After the complete pop-up appears, remove the USB flash drive and install it into the IDS tool to update the Ford database. Perform a complete ignition cycle by turning the key off for 5 minutes, which is critical for a successful installation. For claiming, use causal part 14G371 and applicable labor operations in section 10 of the SLTS manual.

I guess these are US prices. I paid $54,450 CAD out the door (tax, fees, registration....included) (that's about $41,360) . Got 401A, Cold Weather + 21"rims (performance brakes not available in Canada).

50 minutes ago, Sage said:

On your BCM replacement, did that correct your seat back not cooling/heat?  I have the same issue and my Ford dealer has know idea why and has a call into a Ford engineer.  

It only fixed the remote start issue. Not the back lumbar section of the seats heating/cooling and cooling fan too loud. They still have to fix that one. There is SSM 47814 out there but doesn't seem to address it either.

Some 2016-2019 Explorer, 2016-2018 MKX, 2019 Edge/Nautilus, 2017-2019 Fusion/MKZ, and 2018-2019 F-150/Mustang/Expedition/Navigator vehicles equipped with climate controlled seats may exhibit a buzzing noise from the front seats, front seats too warm, and/or inoperative climate controlled front seats. DTCs B14BA:13, B1154:4B, and/or B14B9:13 may also be present. This may be due to loose terminal pin fit on the driver seat module (DSM) connector C341D (16 pin). If a loose terminal pin fit condition is found during normal diagnostics per Workshop Manual (WSM), Section 501-10, a new service pigtail connector (part number 3U2Z-14S411-BRAB) is available. Refer to Wiring Diagram, Cell 119 to make sure C341D is a 16 pin connector and not a 20 pin connector. Refer to Wiring Diagram, Cell 5 for the recommended splicing procedures.

Took the car in to the dealership yesterday to get the Adaptive Headlamps  recall done, at the same time asked them to look at the climate seats for a couple of issues:

1- with remote start, only driver seats come on (heat/cool) on

2- only the bottom part of the seat function, the back lumbar area not cooling/heating

3- when cool is on, the seat fan is loud enough to hear it with the radio on

Gets a call in the afternoon to let me know that they need to replace BCM. Here's what the tech put on the work order

I had the recall done and they are working. Still dealership did not add the Adaptive headlamp menu to left IPC as indicated in owner's manual Page 105. 

Tried doing it wit Forscan using the codes from the F150 Forum, but had partial succees.

The adaptive headlamp menu is added, but greyed out - cannot select or deselect it

also adding cross traffic, it adds it under the main lighting menu and not under 

The  2020 order guide is out

2020 Edge Order Guide.pdf

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