Osiris1975

Thanks! I plan on doing a few aftermarket things starting with an aftermarket trim kit. I'll be back often I suspect

Its a done deal Heres the ad for the one I just bought, pick it up on monday http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?ct=u&car_id=272337301&dealer_id=74018&start_year=1981&drive=All+wheel+drive&advanced=y&keywords_display=vistor+or+panoramic+or+sunroof&make2=LINC&max_price=25000&make=FORD&model=EDGE&style_flag=1&keywordsfyc=__dmlzdG9yIG9yIHBhbm9yYW1pYyBvciBzdW5yb29m__&keywordsrep=118105115116111114032111114032112097110111114097109105099032111114032115117110114111111102&search_type=both&distance=300&end_year=2011&default_sort=priceASC&address=01701&model2=MKX&seller_type=b

Well, the car was great, love it, the copper metallic is gorgeous. The guy tells me there he "thought" I said 23000 not 22000 so anyway we settled on 22500 and I left a deposit. Sealing the deal tomorrow, I hope they don't try to tack on a bunch of stupid fees.

Yup I got them all printed out hehe. I talked to the guy on the phone today, he said he "might" agree to $22000. We'll see.

Well I'm heading in to the dealership tonight to try and close this deal. They still stuck at 23,500 but I've got some tricks up my sleeve.

damn, I almost don't want to buy the 2008 I'll probably buy today. lol.

Thanks for the advice!

Well my wife is gonna come with me if we go to check it out, so I'll have someone to whisper to. The best part is we speak a second language so I don't even have to whisper, I'll just switch languages haha. I've got $18,000 in cash and I didn't want to go past that but it seems unlikely to me they'd go that low on it. I don't have a trade in, I sold my old car myself so I'd get more money.

Yup, I agree its a lot. I'm not agreeing to his latest price of $23,500. I'm in New England so prices are a bit higher here. Forgot to mention its an AWD model. Edmunds says dealer retail of $24,956, private party of $23,089 trade in of $20,688.

My neighbor has an edge as a loaner, and it had the blindspot mirror. He let me drive it around a bit. Honestly, its a great idea but at night its kind of hard to see. They should have made it a little bit bigger.

So I just entered negotiations on a ford edge for sale in my area. I'm doing this all via e-mail so I can't be a captive audience and so I have everything in "writing". List price was 24995, and I made an initial offer of 15000. Obviously a low ball offer, but i figure i have nothing to lose. The dealer countered with 23,500 and asked if I am going to finance. I don't want to take out a loan so I am buying with cash so I said nope. What do you guys think is a fair price for the car given the following information: 2008 Edge Limited, Copper Metallic Exterior, Camel Interior, 26,523 miles on it. Options include panoramic roof, leather seats, 6 disc changer, MS Sync, heated seats.

I don't know if its possible with the Edge, but my dad busted the mirror on his Cadillac Seville. We got another one cheap off ebay, but it was the wrong color. I figured out I could just pop the mirror out of the old housing and replace the broken mirror (the housing itself was fine). So I'm wondering if you can do the same with the Edge. Just pop in the mirror with the blindspot insert in the current Edge housing.

Looks much much better nice work.

Okay, I ran the analysis of auction prices for the car as a FWD. Consider the following vehicles that sold at an auction in New England (prices are higher on average here): 2008 Edge SEL FWD, 7,900 miles sold at auction for $20,900 2008 Edge SEL FWD, 36,717 miles sold at auction for $15,932 2008 Edge SEL FWD, 85,326 miles, sold at auction for 11,600 The car you are looking at falls right about in the middle of those last two in terms of miles. That means the dealer probably paid 13k to 15k for it. That means you should offer them something like 13K for it and not go past 16k in my opinion. I know a lot of people are not comfortable with negotiating, and more importantly, the DEALER knows it, and will take you for all your worth if they can. You should completely ignore the sticker price. I've seen some ads that will indicate that the car has sync. You can use it as a keyword in cars.com or autotrader.com searches. I like the sync but I think I can accomplish the same things with an aftermarket system. For me the panoramic sunroof and AWD are the only must haves. I prefer leather interior in camel and exterior in the orange or red. I guarantee you that they will counter that their car is below KBB and is already a good deal. It is a good deal for THEM. In fact I was looking at a car a few weeks ago and the salesman said that exact thing to me. I told him I never saw anyone sell a car for KBB, which is true. He had no response to that. He kept feeding me a line about how "Herb Chambers (the owner of about 45 dealerships in the area) personally prices every vehicle". I laughed extremely hard on the inside. Anyway, I just sold my Volvo and I did not get a single email or phone call until I priced it below KBB. Don't be afraid of the salesmen, you have EVERY advantage on your side. I'll list them for you if it helps - Automobile sales are down big time due to the economy. Advantage you. -There are a ton of Edges around, as you found out for yourself. Advantage you. - There are a ton of competing cars in the same segment as the edge. Advantage you. - Ford and their dealers are trying very hard to win back market share from the Asian auto makers. Advantage you. This is honestly a great time to be a car shopper. Just don't fall into the salesmen's tricks. And they have LOTS of tricks. I highly recommend reading this: http://www.edmunds.com/advice/buying/artic...62/page001.html Just make sure you note how long the car has been with the dealer, too. I'm butting in, but I agree with Igcitng, price is way overpriced. Just about any dealer listed car will be way overpriced. Not to belabor the point, but the sticker price is meaningless. I test drove a new edge about a month ago, sure it was a limited with all the options, but they listed it at $45,000. Really. Sorry to butt in again, but no, the price on edmunds, kbb, or nada are not correct. Since these websites get revenue from advertisers (car dealers and manufacturers) they are going to be pricing vehicles in favor of the dealers and manufacturers. The real value of any car is what the consumer is willing to pay for it. The SE models are sitting on lots because most buyers want an SEL or Limited. That is even more to your advantage. So that particular Edge, the dealer probably paid between 12k and 13k for it. I'd say you shouldn't pay more then 14k for it.

Welcome to the forums. I'm in a similar boat as you. I recently sold my money pit Volvo S60 (I've sunk alot of money but probably not 7 grand into it), and I have about $18,000 to spend on a car. I do not want a loan either, and I applaud you for avoiding that scenario if possible. I have been researching the market and the ford edge for a couple of months now, and plan to buy one in January. Let me address your points as I see them: - For some reason I can not understand, I have found that consumer satisfaction ratings and those "best buy for your money" surveys tend to rank the 2007 edge higher than the 2008 one. I don't know why, but if the only reason you want an 08 is for the Sync, you might consider an 07 and save yourself some money. - You will not find Sync in 2007 models, the best way to know in 2008 is to just ask the seller. As far as I know, the Sync is standard in Limited models and an option in the others. -KBB and nada both overprice cars in my opinion. I do not know anyone who ever sold a car for KBB value. My opinion is that they probably are "influenced" by dealer lobbies to overprice cars to inflate prices for dealerships. - Having said that, I estimate that the dealer selling the car you outlined paid about $16,500 for the car you are looking at auction or in trade/in value. I also assumed you are looking at an AWD model. I base this on recent dealer auction data I have collected and graphed, which allows me to estimate what the dealer paid for any Edge that I decide to look at. Keep in mind price varies with region of the country as well, and even within regions of a country. For example, if you go shop for a car in Craptown, USA, the prices are going to be lower because the local residents income will be less than those living in Shinyville. Anyway, always lowball a dealer, especially for a vehicle like the Ford Edge because inventories are huge on this car. Doing of used Edges in a 150 mile radius of me turns up about 700 vehicles for sale. I'd say open up with an offer of $14000-$15,000 on the car. The dealer has much more experience at negotiating then you do, so don't worry about "offending" them with a low ball offer. Don't be one of those people who just buys a car for what its listed for, and be ready to walk away from any deal. Other things to consider: - If you do not need AWD where you live I highly recommend going with the FWD model. You will save you money and headaches. If you look at truedelta reliability data, the FWD models rank as pretty reliable while the AWD models have a known issue with the power transfer unit. This is a fixable issue though and if you get an AWD model I'd make sure there is some warranty left on it. - Make sure to pull a carfax report on the car. Not only will you determine if the car has any problems in its history, you can determine how long the dealer has had the car on his lot. Most dealers will send a car off to auction after 2-3 months on the lot, so if you find one that has been sitting around, you can get a better deal for it. - Having looked at the technical service bulletins on the edge, it generally seems better to buy one that is manufactured later in the cycle. This makes sense as you can consider the early models to be a "beta test" and later models will have some kinks worked out. So look at that plate that has the VIN number and manufacture date. -I've also put together a checklist for buying a Ford Edge based on general problems you should look for in a car and also problems listed in the Edge technical services bulletins. I can post it here if you like later when I get home. Then, while your at the dealer, pull out the checklist and go through the car with a fine tooth comb in front of the salesman, this will make him nervous and make him think you are well-informed. I've done this before and watched salesmen sweat its lots of fun Then use whatever you find as leverage for bringing down the price further.

As I continue my search for "The Edge" for me, I am finding it hard to find the package I am looking for at my price range. So, I'm thinking of dropping the leather seat requirement and doing it aftermarket. Has anyone put in aftermarket leather in an edge and if so was the quality of fit and finish good?

The Ford dealer near my house has one parked in front in the "showcase" spot. Can't say I'm a fan of the styling to be honest.

Yup, its less than 2 weeks away and I still haven't sold my POS volvo s60. I don't think anyone is looking to buy cars when they are busy christmas shopping.

I already had a dealer offer to switch out for leather seats. For nav, I decided I'd much rather spend 2000 dollars on this then the stock nav: http://signature.crutchfield.com/s_113DNX9...ation&ssi=0 I'm okay with higher miles, here are a couple that match my criteria, I've found a few that match my criteria with 30,000 miles on them. I generally assume if something is listed for $20k-$22 I'll be able to get it for $18k. I'm also thinking once we get into 2010 some prices will drop.

As far as I can see my phone is not listed... T-Mobile G1.

I am currently shopping for a new crossover and the Venza was the first one I looked at. I think it looks great, and I test drove it twice. The first time was fine, but the second time I started to see some problems: - Noisy Interior -Closed in feeling inside -That sculpted rear quarter also leads to huge blindspot issues So, considering the price and the fact that its a first year car, I've crossed it off my list. The edge is still on my list. I was pleasantly surprised by it when I drove it. I do think it is selling pretty well, you will see dealers (atleast in my area) never offer any serious incentives, and most dealers i talked to say it is selling well.

Okay so lets say I've chosen the Ford Edge over the other two. I am on a tight budget, so I need to keep it at $18k or so. Now lets talk about options, these are what I like and what I think: Leather seats: nearly a must-have for me. I know some dealers will replace cloth for leather for you. Panoramic roof: nearly a must have as well. I'd never do this aftermarket. DVD system: nice to have, but not critical, and can get it cheaper after market. Nav system: also nice to have, but can get it cheaper aftermarket I assume. Sync: I think its critical to have a hands free phone setup. Does Sync come in the 2007 models? Are there phone controls on the steering wheel? Reverse Sensing System: What is this? blindspot sensor? What options do you consider important, and which do you consider to be a waste of money or overpriced(with less expensive/better after market options available)?

I agree that the MDX and RX are boring when it comes to styling. Those two choices are more about reliability. Having owned a 2001 Volvo S60 (Ford owns volvo, but I don't know how many Ford parts are in it), I can tell you I have suffered from that vehicle. I have had to take it at least twice a year to for repair since the warranty expired. Now, is the auto liftgate in the 2007 models as well? Good point on cost of repair. I did exactly as you mentioned, and the insurance cost didn't differ much. Here is how my annual rate would change if I replaced my volvo s60 with each of those vehicles: MDX: $19 less/year RX330: $38 less/year 07 Edge: $7 more/year 08 Edge: $42 less/year Seems like the jury is out on this. Will Ford do a recall to fix the AWD issues? I don't want to get stuck paying for that its going to cost $$$$. Has this fix been subject of recall? How will I know if it is fixed in the actual vehicle I am looking to purchase? Also, I absolutely need AWD, I live in New England and one of the regions of MA that receive more snow then most of the other areas. Well it sounds like everyone is happy with their Edge so far. Good to hear.

Hi, I'd like to get opinions on the 3 vehicles I am considering for purchase, one of which is an Edge. For my price range, I can afford a 2004-2006 MDX or RX330 with somewhere between 30k and 70k miles on it. For the Edge I can afford an 2007-2008 with 20k+ miles on it. Heres what I like and don't like about each one: MDX: -I like reliability, 7 seats, the interior comfort, and cargo space. I found the ride to be pretty decent. - I don't love the exterior appearance, and it seems access to the third row is tighter than in other 7 seaters i have tried. RX330 - I like the reliability, interior design and comfort, the voice controlled GPS, and the MPG. - I dont like the exterior looks or color selection. 5 seats is okay but obviously I can't get that in this vehicle. Edge - I like the design, both interior and exterior, the color selections, vista sunroof. I like the price vis-a-vis the other two vehicles as I can get this one newer and with fewer miles than the other two. -I don't like the reliability in comparison with the other two models. I have serious concerns about the reliability of the AWD models based on the truedelta.com reports. Would love to get more details on this issue if people have them. Is there anything else I should consider about these 3 cars? What are folks opinions?