flyinlow007

Have you updated your ipod to the latest rev for it? Also, is the ipod set up for mass storage (an option in itunes)? I don't know about Ford, but I know GM does not support any ipod older than a 5th gen ipod classic.

Somewhere in all the fine print of the sales agreement and/or the warranty are statements that indicate that certain features that may be supported today may not be supported in the future. If you look at almost any piece of technology you will find this same type of language in the end user agreements, licensing agreements, etc. Its a fact of life when dealing with technology that at some point the technology you use will become obsolete, whether its by the manufacturer replacing it with something completely different or ending production because they have no market share or penetration. I have entire shelves filled with obsolete electronic equipment. Anyone remember "mini disc"? Have several of those players. Betamax tapes are another good example.

Its mostly front wheel drive and as it detects slippage it will transfer power to the rear wheels.

It really isn't about losing money, its about managing risk. If I pay $1200 now so that I don't have to pay more than that on a future repair, if it happens, then its up to each person on how they want to manage that risk. If you're the type of person who does not want to be surprised by a high repair bill then the extended warranty is an acceptable risk management tool. If you are the type of person that wants to "self insure" then you put some money away each month for major repairs. Using the example above of the 09 MKS and assuming they bought new on Jan. 1 of 2009 and bought the warranty then, they would have needed to put away $57 per month, which is not a huge sum. ( I calculated through the end of this year to make it easy) but then their account is now empty and they are still driving the car, so if they run into another major repair that is going to be cash out of the pocket or they would have had to budget more dollars per month, lets say $100 per month to put away for repairs. They would now have had $6000 in the kitty, but had to spend $3400 for repairs, leaving them with $2600 in the kitty. They could have been drawing interest on that money, but lets face it, they would only get a couple of bucks of interest on the money they were depositing each month. If you look at it a different way, they were able to spend $1200 and get $3400 of value out of it. Its a risk as they could have ended up spending $1200 and got nothing out of it. if we look at the same timeline, if they had not used the warranty it cost them $20 per month to manage that risk, but that is only calculated through the end of this year. If they had more repairs next year, the cost of that risk management per month would go down as we have increased our timeline but not had to make more of an initial investment. So again, it comes down to is it worth it to risk paying $20 per month for five years to hedge against paying more than that should I have a repair? I work for a major financial services firm (the ones that "never took a bailout") and our entire insurance business is based on risk management. Its not always about simple dollars and cents, sometimes its about managing risk, and what is managing risk really but hedging, which is just a fancy word for betting. Losing money is an arbitrary term. If you spent $1200 for an extended warranty and ended up with $3400 in repairs covered by the warranty, you didn't gain any money, no one handed you a check for the difference, you just didn't have to pay the $3400 bill 5 years after you bought the warranty. Similarly, if I spent $1200 on a warranty five years ago and never used the warranty 5 years later, I haven't lost any money because that money was spent 5 years ago, its done and gone. When it comes to new cars, there is not talking an investment that can appreciate so its an expense, and if its an expense then you have to figure out best how to manage your expenses. That differs from household to household and depends on family size, income and expenses. All I'm trying to say is that there are different perspectives, there is no right or wrong answer and even the way people look at losing or gaining money is different from person to person. Its the same when you talk about buying cars, there are people that will absolutely not buy a new car because of the huge hit of depreciation you take in the first year. You could say that is losing money. To other people that is inconsequential as they want to buy the car new and may keep it for a long time. For myself I don't understand why people would lease a car for 2-3 years then turn around and lease another one. They like to have a new car every couple of years and don't want to worry once its out of warranty. For those people you could make the argument that buying an extended warranty and buying the car instead of leasing and keeping it longer would put them ahead. I'm sure that's an argument for another place and time.

Weird, Same vehicle, both bought from Ford dealers with Apple in the name (mine is Apple Autos in MN)

iTunes removed protection starting in January of 2009, if you look at your files format, if it ends in .m4a its an unprotected AAC file. If it ends in .m4p, its a protected file and it won't play those. I viewed my purchased songs and sorted by order added and songs bought through the end of 2008 are protected, then starting in 2009 they are unprotected. An unprotected file will play in the Edge through a USB stick, just tried mine. Most of my almost 13,000 songs came from my cd's which I ripped into iTunes as mp3 files, so no issues playing those. That project took me a year to do, but it was worth it.

The mylink system in my Camaro will play AAC files on a USB drive, surprised the Ford system doesn't. Will have to try this when I get home tonight as I have a bunch of USB sticks with AAC files on them. Does it matter which audio system you have? I have the Sony, Mytouch and Sync.

From the research I did before I bought mine, it seems the power transfer unit (PTU) is probably your biggest concern if you have an all wheel drive. If not, no major concerns although they are machines and can break. Check out floodfordesp.com , very good prices on the Ford extended warranty.

This would be the reason why it stays powered up, if you are in the vehicle but lock the doors with the inside button, you would still want the systems on until you turn them off or leave the vehicle.

When you exit the car, do you take the phone with you? (I'm assuming you do). You have broken the BT connection when you do that. Agreed that they probably would have to change the software programming to go back to pick up BT audio when you start the vehicle. Just curious, have you tried leaving the phone in the car, turning the car off. Then starting it back up and seeing if it picks up the BT audio that way? I'm just curious whether its the fact it loses the BT signal and has to re-sync when you get back in the car, versus if its always in the car will it remember that state.

Only 1 SD slot, if you have nav its used for that. You can always take your nav sd out of the slot and put music in there, but then you lose the nav

Remember that the price of the warranty goes up at each interval (1/12, 2/24, etc.) plus Ford will almost certainly do pricing adjustments at least once per year.

Bought a new 2013 Edge Sport, first new Ford I ever owned. Hopefully turns out good

I agree that the odds are in the houses favor, no doubt about that. They have actuaries that spend countless hours going over details to create the rates they charge for the extended warranties. To your point, they wouldn't be selling them if they couldn't make money on them. For my personal case, the $1170 I'm going to spend is a cheap enough bet that I will get that back if just one or two things go wrong. If we were talking over $2000 I would probably roll the dice instead.

Sorry, old wives tale. I have an engineering degree in electronics and this simply isn't true. They can die at any time, all comes down to the tolerances of the components and the environment they have been put through. And if the display dies, you replace the whole unit, there is no repair done on it. Agreed that its a gamble, but I keep mine a little longer than you do and as they age and you put more miles on, the chance of needing repairs goes up. I typically own mine 7-8 years and typically take the option for the 7 year/80k warranty.