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The person that started this topic had said his jeep ownership experience had been 'rock solid'. Is anyone willing to go out on a limb and say his future Ford EDGE purchase will be a rock solid experience? These vehicles in the past have been anything but rock solid. Certainly can't fore see the future, but Ford EDGE design has been anything but rock solid. In my opinion!

That's not always true. The transmission shops in my area won't do it. The ones I checked with are willing to replace it, but not service it. So, saying that 'any' is just not the case. The reason is that most follow manufacture's specifications unless you can find one that works outside the box. I found a small auto repair shop that was familiar with the Ford PTU. I asked them by chance if they could change the PTU fluid level while my MKX was up on thier lift for rear wheel bearing replacement. They showed me that it was leaking and that the fluid was in bad shape with metal shavings. They gave me the option of seal replacement and fluid change, or complete replacement because of what they found. I opted for replacement and purchased a PTU from a Ford dealership off of ebay for $679.00 including shipping.

Because Ford in their infinite wisdom won't sell that middle east version PTU in the USA. Try to find one.

I would say no. A 2015 PTU unit will not fit your vehicle. If it did we would know by now. Your only option is to change the fluid at regular intervals. The problem is finding someone to do it. Most Ford dealers won't do it because Ford says it is not needed. They only add to the aggravation by refusing to acknowledge what we all know. THE UNIT IS DEFECTIVE BY DESIGN. It just adds insult to injury...and most folks that think Ford can do no wrong, will blame you for not buying the extended warranty...go figure.LOL Try to find an independent repair shop to change the fluid or do it yourself. Or sell it before it turns into a money pit...or trade it in on an SUV that has a better designed AWD system. No brainer is to go Japanese, but of course do your home work. That's just my opinion.

Yes, of course, but you must ask yourself why it is turning black. Extreme high temperature will cause fluid to turn black in a closed unit. I don't know of any other factor. The edge's exhaust pipe wraps around the ptu unit, the low volume of lubricant, and the rediculous 'no maintenance required' also stated in the manual, is all by design. It is a obviously a recipe for disaster. There have been eight updates on the old unit and finally a complete redesign in 2015 with a drain plug. I have all the old part numbers listed for the updates up to present. if you would like them I will post same. I researched them to make sure I bought the latest design when I replaced my unit.

I don't care that the manual states that it's normal. That is not normal for any gear unit under normal operating conditions. If it is normal for Ford's design, than they are admitting they have a flawed design. My vehicle only had 27,000 miles and the gear oil was black, full of metal and it was TOAST! NOT ACCEPTABLE! I've changed gear oil in rear units many times in passenger cars and pick up trucks. I've changed the same weight gear oil in Harley transmissions. I've never seen gear oil look as bad as what I saw come out of my Lincoln MKX PTU. Have you see water contamination in oil or gear oil? I have and I'm only telling you what it looked like from my perspective.

I don't care what it states. Any oil or lubricant in a closed unit, not exposed to combustibles, should not be black. It should not look like your engine oil before you change it. Have you attempted any maintenance on any of your vehicles? I'm not asking to mock you, but just trying to understand your background before I comment any further...And yes if a unit has water contamination it would need to be changed, but that gear oil contaminated with water would be emulsified and be white-ish in color.

A very low mile 2009 MKX 27,000 when unit failed, and rear wheel bearing also failed (driver side). I had PTU and both rear wheel bearings replaced. I have 30,700 miles as we speak. Of course every PTU will eventually fail, but there are way to many of these units that self destruct before their time.They are a junk design. They leak and they fail... or they just fail after gear oil fries and turns to goo. And if the trans seal fails and leaks(which is the norm) on this unit it can destroy the transmission. That is why there have been so many updates and changes. It's a failed design, hence so many updates or band aids.

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Why don't we simply break down the stats according to how many people have encountered problems with the PTU on EDGE/MKX models on this site? And, how many times Ford has updated the PTU since the first design? Ford is the only one that knows how many of their units have failed, and they certainly aren't going to be helpful supplying this information for obvious reasons. I believe there have been seven updates since 2007? So, there have been 7 updates from 2007-2014, and the 2015 model had a complete redesign? That many updates(changes) on a part does not instill confidence on the reliability of said part. Everyone knows that the PTU is the #1 complaint for this model on this site. Agree or disagree? I had my PTU replaced back in November 2016 by a small shop? They had replaced 12 maybe 13 PTUs since April 2016?( If my memory serves me right that is what I remember.) Let's just say that is an unusually high repair amount for one model design for such a small shop in a rural low populated area. I saw someone trying to start a class action lawsuit against Ford on another site because of the problem with the PTU. I believe the problem is widespread, you can believe what you want.

Ford Edge PTU failures are more the norm rather then the exception. Anyone that says any different is not dealing with reality and is drinking the kool aid.

Yeah, my 2009 MKX manual says 12oz too, but this information is from a company that also engineered a known defective part. My new PTU has 18 oz of Ams oil super duty gear oil put in by my mechanic before installation. His research claims 18 oz is best not 12 oz. So far I have 3000 miles and no puking.

You are making excuses for Ford. Ford Edge/MKX are notorious for premature rear wheel bearing failure, and for failure of the ptu unit. My local repair shop claims that these models are well known for failure before what is considered normal. They also told me that they replaced 14 ptu units on edge/mkx models since April of this year. Google it and see the results.

Ford product underwarranty. Repaired by authorized ford dealer. Repair is faulty. In a usual sane world any manufacturer worth its salt would make sure the repair is corrected. Let's not forget that the customer would not be in this position to begin with if the original part was not defective.

And YOU are entitled to YOUR opinion and so am I. A defective product design is defective regardless of the inability of the manufacturer to "nut up" and take responsibility! I would not have a problem with paying for repair of the PTU or BEARING HUB failure if it was a TRUE FIX. It is not! I essentially am just buying time until the next failure! Get my point? I don't think that is asking to much from Ford. So, that said, despise on Mr. Kirby...