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appreciated,

easy as math current engine MPG - Edge Ecoboost MPG (based on city/country mix) * $/Gallon * Miles over x years = total savings. Compare that to $995

But once the install is done, 2012 MFT will have every feature 2013's have out of the box correct? They're not changing any hardware/specs on the new ones?

Is this to say that if you buy a 2012 you won't get this feature but 2013's will come with?

Hello, I currently have an 08 SEL that is coming off lease. I’m pretty sure between the costco discount and Xplan that I want to lease another Ford. The Explorer seems a little bigger than I need (not to mention a little more expensive) and the 2013 Escape perks my interest – but I’m leery of buying the first year of a generation + I know the lease rates will be high when it first comes out. Edge has a great 3% 48 month lease in Canada right now, and as mentioned there’s the Costco rebate in effect. We love the vehicle, and the new Edge would actually be a limited so there’d be some nice perks we don’t have now. My wife is really pushing me towards this as she feels the Escape would feel a lot tighter (we have a kid and a large dog). The only holding me back is that I already have driven an Edge of this generation. Would anyone else be adverse to buying the same model vehicle twice in a row? I’m also hung up on the fact a redesigned Edge will be out in 18 months (not that I can wait for it, I have to get something in the next couple of months). Am I being irrational in my thoughts? I love the vehicle but there’s something about wanting “new” when getting a new vehicle. Just curious if the crowd falls on my wife’s side (“you love the car, why wouldn’t you get it again?) or my probably wrong side of “but we already had one”.

Hello, I googled the heck out of this and I can't find any answers. Can someone explain the difference between the standard lights and HID option? It's $600 for the HID's on a new order and I can't for the life of me figure out if it's worth the cash. Is this purely an aesthetic option?

I'm looking to get an Edge this month. Ford.ca and my local dealer both don't show the 2013's available to order. I see the production schedule showing what you guys are saying here but for some reason only 2012's for the time being

Just saw that the MXK (in Canada) has a 0% lease over 48 verse Edge @ 2.99%. That's about $80-$85 a month in payments or $4-$5K in MSRP right there. Going to search the forum for MXK vs Edge thoughts. Appreciate the feedback on the Sorento, have a feeling I'd be the same was as your neighbour re: Escape - I think we can order in Jan (?) for delivery in April, fingers crossed

is this in the wrong forum?

good stuff!

man this makes me nervous about buying one

I'm almost done my lease on this but thought this was a good place to vent. The only SUV I've ever seen without bungee hooks. So stupid. Thankfully the 2012's have them

didn't know this, thanks!

Everytime I see this generation of Lincoln's I can't help but think of Robocop's version of the future. It looks dated.

Doesn't the Edge do this? I know the Explorer does

I never really considered the Journey in the same class as the Edge - it was more a larger Compass/Patriot, Escape

Hello, It's been awhile since I've been on these forums but with my 08 SEL lease almost up, I thought I'd pick the brains of the group. My original thought was to get a 2012 Explorer, but the more I thought about it the more I realized it's a little too big for the city + with only 1 kid and a dog, the extra space is not imperative. Thought about waiting for the 2013 Escape, but who knows when it will actually be released, and despite the dimensions sounding on par with the Edge, and the cargo space actually being bigger (how is that possible given how small the current generation Escape cargo space is?) I'm back to the Edge being nicer. Although I love my 08 Edge, and have been happy with Ford service overall, I'm reluctant to buy another for two pretty stupid reasons. 1: The 2012 despite having a refresh last year is still the same generation. While the interior is a bit different, it's the same vehicle. For as much as I do love it, the thought of driving the same vehicle for another 4 years is less than appealing. My wife thinks I'm stupid since if I love the vehicle why not get it again, + going from an SEL to Limited will make a difference. 2: With this generation getting long in tooth, I think there's a new model coming out in 2014 (2013 calendar), or 2015 at the latest. I'm reluctant to buy something that will be "old" in 18months. I've also been looking at a Sorento Luxery, which is pretty much equipped as well as the Edge Limited AWD, but about $6K less. It didn't ride as nice as the Edge, but was still a nice vehicle. I can't find anything else in the $40-$45k (Canadian) CUV price range, fully loaded, that has the same cargo space or quality. The Morano was the closet but it felt smaller. Hoping for some feed back on a couple of things: - Anyone else compare the Edge to the Sorento? Thoughts? - Any other model that you would suggest for a CUV in the same price range with at least the same cargo space 2nd row up? - Anyone heard anything on the next generation Edge? - Any thoughts on the 2013 Escape? Will it really be as big as the Edge? And lastly, the one I'm sure everyone's dying to talk about again - MFT. I know the current version is buggy, I can live with that, if, a big IF, the consensus is the spring update will fix 99% of the issues. MFT is one of the main reasons I'd like to get the Edge.

Those are indeed 2012 Escape (or close to finished product) pictures, not Edge. It looks like current Edge design from what I've read will continue through 2012, with a total refresh for 2013.

Thanks, appreciate the info

Does anyone know if 2012 will be a completely new design or continue with the 2011 refresh look? I believe the Escape will be all new. http://machinespider.com/2010/10/2012-ford-escape-hybrid-suv-photos-specifications-reviews-price/ If I had to guess looking at those photos though, that looks like more like a next generation Edge than Escape

Is it really this bad?

Funny, I just fixed this for the third time in two weeks. Keeps coming off. This time I used an elastic band to hold it in place. I'm out of warranty, I should go see how much a replacement part is. 08 SEL as well

so the consensus is that the non-towing package, w/ the after market Curt hitch, and 1500lb net weight on the trailer, I should be ok going 3000KM, up and down the rocky mountains? I’m getting conflicting answers from another website, from a bunch of Canadians telling me the trans-Canada highway will kill my transmission. They’re suggesting putting everything in totes and shipping greyhound, and putting the car on a trailer and flying out there. All of that seems a lot more expensive then the trailer option.

perfect! good news all around today on my towing situation

so my bigger worry should be my brakes then the strain on the tranny and engine going uphill? I apologize if I’m asking elementary questions, but I really have no clue about this stuff. I’ll be sure to do as you recommended on the oil and tranny fluid once I arrive. I appreciate the green light on the 1500lbs. It sounds like the distance won’t really be the problem, just the last quarter up and down the mountains.