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Cool, thanks - that's the kind of info I'm looking for.

There's no way for you have known this, but I've been in manufacturing for 35 years and am well aware of how cost structuring works and that swapping in a part with a similar cost here and there might not add up to much in terms of labor. ...but we're not talking about wiring and swapping cheap parts like the grill reinforcement...talking about more expensive mechanical parts like oil and transmission coolers, the hoses to feed them and the time that'd take to install. Time isn't much, on a modern line, but parts is parts...

Thanks, I will ask about that. I saw that, and am well below the frontal area limits. Thanks...that's what I'm working on. I've never been any good at accepting that as an answer though..."because they said so" without understanding why just doesn't work in my life. Never has, never will. The cynical part of me wonders if it's not lawyers trying to reduce risk (that's their job) by finding ways to exclude potential repairs. Funny thing is...they've no way to prove how much weight gets towed...so the only risk reduction is if something bad happens, there's a slim chance they can try to shield themselves from liability... ********************* Anyway, more pondering: The tow package is $485...that includes the hitch and wiring...there's not enough left over for other mechanical parts like additional coolers. Things like that different grill reinforcement are interesting.

Not missing the point at all. Same transmission with the tow package, no oil or transmission coolers either...at least that I can find anywhere...that's what I'm looking for one way or the other. Rather than assume, I want to know. Escapes are the same way. I've gone over my Escape with a tow package and one without...no difference.

The rating is not tied to the 2.0L, it is tied to the OEM tow package. The tow rating for my '14 Escape is 3,500 lbs. with the original 2.0L and the OEM tow package, I have thousands of miles towing the boat with that vehicle, no issues. The '17 Edge with the tow package is also 3,500 lbs., what I am trying to figure out, and can't seem to get an answer to is: What, exactly, is the tow package, and can it it be retrofitted to the Edge. If someone had a parts list if there is anything beyond the hitch, wiring and cutting the bumper, that'd be great.

The boat maxes out at about 2,800 lbs.

Bump....

I currently tow my '05 Crestliner 1850 CMV with a 2014 Escape with the 2.0L and a towing package. No problems, ever. I don't want to get into a debate about whether or not the Escape is "big enough"...it is, not open for discussion... What I am wondering is if I add a hitch to our 2017 Edge Titanium, will I have similar towing capacity? It looks like the Edge with the 2.0L is limited to 1,500 lbs without the tow package. I am not even remotely inclined to push towing capacity, not worth it, ever. Secondary question: Can the tow package be retrofitted to an edge that does not have it?

Thanks. We'll have them look at both options when we are there. I am concerned about the metal form I can feel under the foam. It's closer to the surface than I expected and it may well come into play.

Thanks folks! I think our first move is going to be to have a vented foam insert built that fits between the bolsters to level the seat cushion. We'd have it covered in black leather to match the seats as close as we can.

That's about where my wife has landed. Short trips are OK. This will become a problem once the ice melts and I take our Escape to pull the boat to go fishing.

We've considered that...but it would block the heating/cooling. We'd like to retain that if possible.

Our '17 Edge Titanium has the heated/cooled seats, and the aggressive way the side bolsters come up along the sides is uncomfortable for my wife. I notice them, but would not quite call them uncomfortable. If I press down on the bolsters, I can feel a hard, curved support piece inside them. Is that piece there to add structure to the seat, or is it part of the cooling system? If it is just structure, does anyone know if it is plastic, or metal? If it is metal, I had considered bending it down and outward to make the seat more comfortable for my wife. We have several ideas, ranging from trying to adjust ourselves, to having an upholstery shop re-configure the seats, to out-right replacing them. We are open to other ideas as well.