Further North

I keep it simple: I use premium because I can get it in Wisconsin without ethanol in it. Ethanol blows, for more reasons than we're gonna wanna discuss here, and if I can find a way to nit use any of the crap, I won't.

Thanks folks. No adaptive steering. We are still inside the 12/12K on the CPO warranty.

2016 Titanium, ~40K on it...the leather covering on the steering wheel is peeling off around the area where the spoke meets the outer rim on the left side of the steering wheel. Anyone else seeing this kind of thing? I don't hold the steering wheel there... Car is covered by extended "Ford Certified" Waranty. Slight sidebar: there's a "dent" in the material covering the door panel at the top near the window. I can provide pictures if they help.

I looked through the condensation topic...but I feel like this is a different issue. What started out looking like condensation on a trip with a lot of rain and temperature variation revealed itself to be cracks in the clear outer cover of the center tail light. No evidence of any impact (that'd be an insurance problem). Has anyone else seen this? Scheduled to get looked at next Wednesday, would love to know if it's something that has come up before. I can post pictures if I need to.

Hate is way, way too strong a term, but...even though I love the huge sunroof on our '16 Titanium...it's three or four inches too far forward. If I don't wear a hat, and the sun is high in the sky, it blasts me right in the eyes...and either have to put a hat on...or close the roof...

I was over 4,000 RPM twice already today...and it's just lunch time...

Thanks - that's perfect!... So somewhere around 20% better in Florida? I'd agree that's "far better mileage"! The experience I had was 2017 3.5 Edge Titanium v6 compared to a 2018 Edge Titanium 2.0 EcoBoost on a drive from NW WI to Indianapolis. The 2.0 beat the 3.5 by about 3 MPG on the round trip.

I don't think anyone who has done their homework thinks EcoBoost motors have "Best in class" fuel economy. Can you help us out by defining what "far better mileage" means, objectively? Something like, "The EcoBoost Edge gets 24 MPG, and Kia gets 32 MPG." Everyone has a different perception of what "far better" means and it'd help if we could quantify it.

ST tow capacity is finally useful...is that what I understand from the video?

Thanks. I assume I can get it from the dealer when it's in for service.

Is there a relatively easy way to find engine hours on a 2016 Edge Titanium? The trip readouts are great...but that's only since they were last re-set.

The better part of a season into it...I wouldn't do it, not on a bet. Not that I feel it'd be terribly risky for the vehicle, for a short tow...but liability would scare the pants off me.

I think the answer is in having realistic expectations...and at the end of the day, German engines aren't really any better than American ones...

Interesting that you didn't care for the Escape towing...I've peen pulling an eighteen and a half foot Crestiner with ours for four seasons, no problems. It weighs about 2,400 - 2,500 lbs most of the time with occasional bumps up to abour 2,800 lbs on trips to Canada.

Good review, thanks.

In the world of color, anything under a Delta Error of 2.0 (normally shown as 2.0 ΔE) is commercially acceptable...what we're seeing here (allowing for different digital cameras) is well inside that. Pastels and greys show variation more than other colors... There ain't no such thing as perfect color match and anyone who thinks there is, isn't living in the real world. Grays are particularly hard to match; as a neutral color, even the slightest difference in shade jumps out at us, and even subtle differences well under 2.0 ΔE can be seen by people with normal color vision. ...that's the long way of saying I'd be surprised if Ford did anything about this. As a printer, I would not.

I love the EcoBoost, would rather have one, but fate and timing and $$$ are what they are. I love our '14 Escape with the 2.0L EcoBoost, it's a great vehicle. As I said above, I believe that the EcoBoost, and others like it, are the engines of the future; Smaller displacement with turbo, twin turbo or superchargers are where it's at, for a myriad of reasons. I am particularly looking forward the the small displacement turbo-diesel in the new Ranger Raptor. These motors have been all over Europe for quite a while already, it's time for us to get dragged kicking and screaming into the 21st century in the US... Same here - we had a 2.0 '17 Edge for about 6 weeks...really liked it. I'll get used to the 3.5L V6, but I enjoyed the 2.0L EcoBoost more...if it was possible to add a tow package without breaking the bank we'd have kept the 2.0L.

Agreed, 100%. I've towed a Crestliner CMV 1850 the last 4 seasons with a 2014 Ford Escape with the 2.0L EcoBoost. Zero problems, loved it. The 2.0L EcoBoost actually has more torque than the 3.5L V6; 275 ft. lbs. for the 2.0L EcoBoost vs. 250 ft. Lbs. for the 3.5L normally aspirated V6...while I'm not worried about it, it's 10%... The EcoBoost is the motor of the future, and I really like them. I was disappointed to not be able to find one, but I'll live. Mustangs are great cars, love them, but for me, they are just too big. It's ironic, but when I stopped by my Ford dealer this afternoon to pick up my USB update for my NAV...there was a brand new Mustang, sitting next to a bright blue S2000...love the mustang...but the S2000 is the kind of car that singes to me. The S2000 had a "SOLD" sign in the window...which is good. Rolling into retirement, I'm pretty sure the Accounting Office woulda had a problem with an S2000 in the driveway...woulda been particularly difficult given that the trailer for the folks putting on a new roof is still out there... I owned a 1969 Austin Healey Sprite from the mid 80s until just a few years ago, and I loved driving it...but hated maintaining it. A Miata, the new Fiat, or an S2000 gets me back to the format I like but upgrades the reliability. I've driven fast cars...I've run a Porsche 930 Turbo on a track (and off a track, but that's another story), and a Formula Ford, I've owned an Infiniti G35 (Yeah they are electronically limited to 155, don't ask how I know), and a BMW 3 series, and driven some of the newer, insanely fast Mustangs...but that's just not what I want at this stage of my life. Small, fun, tossable and reliable is what I'd be looking for, were I to go after something now.

1) The 2.0L EcoBoost 4 banger is just flat out smoother than the 3.5L V6. Never thought I'd say that...but it is what it is. Am very interested in the new 2.0. Am crazy interested in the turbo diesels on the way. 2) MPG is pathetic, in 2018. I can average 19.3, but I have to think about it...otherwise I'm looking at ~18.5. It's OK, given that we don't drive much, but I'd be PO'd if I drove 40K miles a year. We're talking $600 on an annual basis, that's decent fly rod/reel, and a very good baitcaster/musky rod every year. 3) I need some more time to get a feel for it...but the 4 banger came on the power much more predictably than the 6 cyl. 4) Advantage 6 cyl.: coming up an on ramp, and you get on 'er...the acceleration seems progressive rather than linear...I like this. A turbo would be the cat's ass. 5) Am anxious to try pulling the boat. Research suggests the 6 cyl. will be better...the math guy in me say 277 ft./lbs. is better than 250 ft./lbs. It'll be fine either way, just wanna get 'er done, find out where I am, deal with it and move on. 6) Not sold on the 20" rims. Ride is impacted negatively compared the 19" we had on the 2.0L that we had for 6 weeks...I think. Might just be the roughness of the 6 cyl. getting in my head. Buying decent tires in a few years is gonna suck... 7) Modern AWD is kick ass. With the foot of snow over the weekend, this thing just goes, much like the Freestyle did, unless you do something stupid. Backed out of the garage, drove to town, not even the slightest issue, anywhere. matches the 2.0L exactly. Modern AWD kicks incredible ass, makes old 4WD look archaic, with obvious exceptions where locked this and that would be needed. I don't need that any more, so this is better. Having driven all the major makes AWD systems in the past 8 weeks or so, if you get stuck with any of them, you're a maroon. Differences between the makes are measured in microseconds and are perceived in terms of some potentially interesting noises...they all work, and all work insanely well compared with what I grew up with. Are some "better" than others? Sure...Jeep and Subaru are the best...but see previous reference to difference measured in micro-seconds and funny noises. Note to self to not do something stupid inserted here... 8) Getting used to the wider body of the Edge vs. the Escape. Subjectively the Escape is more "nimble" and fun to drive...the Edge is more "stable". At 55, going on 56...it's a push...If I want fun, I'll buy one of the Fiat/Mazdas, a Miata or find an older Honda S2000...when the kid is gone I can park it and drive it when the weather is good...

Happens all the time when I go fishing and get some kind if tiny abrasion on my finger/thumb. Needs a solid, easy back-up plan.

Don't take this wrong...but ick. No way I'm embedding chip in my body unless I need it to live...

Our 2016 with BLIS does not have the convex inserts in the outside corners...and I miss them. I learned how to set my mirrors when I was racing and the habit of setting them so that the slimmest part of the inside edge of the door mirrors just barely overlaps the outside edges of the center inside mirror persists to this day...but I really liked those little inserts because they gave juuuuust that little bit extra...

Same here. The power folding ones are sorta useful way down a two track logging road if things get tight...and in parking lots to stop folks from bumping into them.

Funny thing about power folding mirrors...Nothing new...I had them on a base model Isuzu Trooper in 1994

I think you're right... Though I can't think of a single good reason for leaving a tow hook out of a design. Prolly some bean counter managing via counting of beans.