I just traded in my 08 scion xb in for my edge limited AWD. I realize the XB is front wheel drive and about 1000 lbs lighter than the edge. But I just put a set of Michellin X ice's on that. Well I had to do a round trip from NY to NC, AL, VA, back to NY about 2300 miles in a week, and I have to say for being winter tires they are by far the quietest and nicest riding I had put on that car with excellent dry traction. Never got a chance to drive in snow with them. They did come with the $70 rebate but it is a mail in rebate and I sent it in the week of thanksgiving and nothing even shows up on their rebate site yet. I travel for work 8 months out of the year so drive about 25,000 miles a year. I have had EAGLE ULTRA GRIP GW3, DUNLOP SP WINTER SPORT 3D, BRIDGESTONE BLIZZAK WS60 XL, Goodyear Ultra Grip Ice and most recently MICHELIN X-ICE XI2. My favorite in the snow were the ultra grip GW3. dry pavement were the Michelin's and they even come with the Green X rating. My least favorite were the Ultra Grip Ice, After about 15,000 miles they were worn down to the snow legal bar and they were horrible on dry pavement. When it comes time to put tires on my edge they will probably be the Michelin X-ice XI2's.