kevinb120

Wow they make a chunk of change on keys, the ebay ones are a steal, and I doubt he's selling them at cost. Funny enough, even dealer cost is much higher then those

Those are not canned tunes, they were tailored for my car by the best 05+ Mustang tuner in the business. I'm definitely doing this but I'm holding out just a little bit longer to see if a CAI or some other hop-up comes out. As when then 05 mustang came out, I let it 'stew' a bit and a year later there were a ton more options to choose from.

You must have been doing something wrong, I have seen hundreds of up-tuned Fords from places like brenspeed that make a HUGE difference. I've heard of Evo before, was your other tunes done by someone like them or was it some 'chip'?? The pros don't do stuff like using jumpers or some of the bs resistors sold on ebay. What did you buy before? Let alone the diesel crowd that can hit incredible numbers, 700+ft/lbs of torque quite easily. Even with my Mustang that would run a 13.0 1/4 had trouble getting away from my neighbor's F250 with juat a good tune and exhaust kit, that truck is ridiculous.

Tell that to the Mustang crowd... People for years have been tuning the new mustang to over 30 additional documented horsepower with nobody having ANY problems. I drove that thing around like a bandit with the gas pedal and I wish my Edge got the mileage my car did after the tune(worst mileage for my normal driving 17.8mpg, last normal tank with the edge, 13.2mpg), and I do nowhere near as many full-tilt acceleration runs with the edge like I did constantly with the Mustang. Ford itself offers re-tune kits for the Mustang as well and includes it as standard equipment on the Bullitt and Shelby GT with no other modifications. No to mention the remapping of the gas pedal sensitivity and shifting programs on automatics that sacrifice a bit of comfort for performance that totally change the car. When I took the CAI tune off my mustang when I traded it in, driving it 'stock' again was like the gas pedal was buried in mud.

No the bulbs are clear. Hid lighting colors are from the gases, not cheapo bulbs dipped in food dye(although PIAA gang rapes you on their halogen bulbs). I mounted them to a couple areas on the inner fenders, I'll get a pic sometime. I used double sided body tape, they've held up fine. No you don't need a relay. You only get single beam H11's as your factory halogen high-beams do the, uh, high-beam duty....Mine do not flicker or anything when I turn them on, even when just unlocking with the key fob. The ballasts barely get warm to the touch, if at all. I drove 8 hours straight with them last Friday(and back on Sunday)... If I did it again I would get 4300K, yes it will still look a little blue but with better light output. And in areas where the police are really tough, it doesn't stick out so much in traffic. Just be very careful not to break the ceramic anode that runs along the bulb(white stick). I had to very slightly trim the tabs on the bulbs a bit as the housings had 0 tolerance and I didn't want to chip the chrome off the plastic edges of the housing opening(its not exactly tiffany's, the opening in the housing was a bit rough actually), and have it fall down inside the headlight housing(some still did but I got it out). Be very patient and check the fit a few times so you don't force anything. I filed the sharp edges of the tabs a hair and beveled the contact area so it doesn't 'shave' off the chrome, as the tabs were quite sharp. It still took quite a bit of effort to turn them to full lock. It should not discolor the chrome as it runs at much lower temperatures then a halogen bulb. If I remember correctly, I used 3M body tape(orange plastic release strips) and on the passenger side there is a small flat spot below a section of sound deadening that looks like dynomat on the inner fender panel and stuck the balast vertically, and on the driver side there was a much larger flat area I stuck it horizontally. I used a little pad of adhesion promoter and they aren't going anywhere. The two lead spades go right into the harness socket, and I wrapped the one positive lead on each side with a little elec tape just to be extra safe that it never touches anything(even though its nearly impossible). It is fused through the normal headlight fuse so no power leads are needed. Got this set here: http://stores.ebay.com/wholesale-hid

I didn't need any relay for mine. Works with autolamp and the perimeter lighting when you unlock the car at night. Two balasts, the harness' to each bulb, and the leads go directly into the factory bulb harness plug. The leads direct 12V power to the balasts as it would a light bulb, the balast turns on and directs the proper voltage to the HID bulb and on it comes... Easy as pie. . I wouldn't bother with HID's for the hi-beams, no OEM manufacturer does and the lower reflector is optimized for throwing the halogen lighting up and out without regard for glare, so it's more then adequate. Only the 2008 Mustang uses factory 'bi-xenon' via a moveable reflector plate. Everyone else uses halogen high-beams. Wouldn't bother with the fogs either....

Yea but with the vista roof, a few angles will light the front of the cabin from within much more then the rear. Any darker then 15% and it gets very hard to see out of them. I just want it to look good and cut down on the glare from the side mirrors.

Well I put the 6000k bulbs in. I had this in my 05-up Mustangs and they had a dramatic improvement. The edge's reflector and bulb cover does not equal the same improvement in lighting, but it is still much better then stock. The deep recess and heavily shielded edges of the reflector seem to keep it from bugging other drivers though. The sides are very effective reducing glare to other drivers. Although the blue tint to the 6000k is very cool, with the reflector not being as effective as the Mustang's, I would probably recommend 4300k. Only issue I had with the install is that the new bulb's tabs were a bit sharp and chipped a few pieces of the chrome off the inner edges of the bulb opening and into the headlight. I had to improvise a stick-um stick on a piece of wire and fish out a couple of the 'crumbs'... :wacko: No big deal though. I kept the fogs factory and really don't mind the look of the more yellow fogs with white/blue headlights. Most OEM's are like this and all the chrome around the lighting looks nice. Beam upper cut-off stays fairly low and does not light up people in their interiors-my headlights could actually use a touch of upward adjustment. So not as great a mod on the Edge as it was with my last car, but not much of nuisance and looks pretty darn good. One thing I have always liked about hids, is visibility by other drivers during daylight conditions, I run with lights on all the time from my 2-wheel days by habit, and even into the sun the HID's still make the car very visible to oncoming traffic.

To me it looks like 15%, that's what I'm getting done to my fronts. I like the pinstripe on Good Hand's car, the darker colors need a little something to break it up a bit.

I like the idea of it too, but at $50, not over $100

November was insane for employees: D plan (about $1400 under invoice) minus $3500($1500 in D plan cash special) in rebates $32375MSRP/selling price about $25820 give or take $50 bucks. It was a lease so they also waived the first payment and the $500 security deposit(so sutract another $900) and the lease factor was 0.25% with a 62% residual. AFTER Dec 1st it went up, and now its well over $200 more per month for the same car(lease factor 7.9%/residual 57%). We employees don't pay processing fees(here its $400 so scrub that too), so just $50 for tags and 3% Va sales tax and personal property tax is paid for by CAB-East (FMCC's lease division). It was too silly for employees so I jumped on it. Focus lease price for an Edge SEL with awd, 18"s and the BAMR(with reverse sensing and 6CD). This is why I also switch cars so much, the last 6 I had never had one with over 10k miles. I can probably trade out of it in a year and be ahead, which is typically IMPOSSIBLE for a leased vehicle. But if I sold shoes for a living I'd be dressed better....Thats one of the perks for slaving away putting Fords on the road. I wasnt looking for a long-time love affair so I got all the hardware and the roof and skipped the frills 07 SEL AWD Amethyst/Black cloth(I saw a 19k mi trade-in with black cloth that looked like brand spanking new so it sold me) BAMR 18" chrome clad bling blings Sirius cargo management the rubber floor mats reverse sensing I was on my third new-gen Mustang (had an 05, an 06, and an 07) and just ordered myself a Bullitt and was looking into getting a $7000 turbo and decided it was time to stop wasting money for a bit and try to steal a house while the market is slow and drive a 'normal' vehicle for a while....

well bbf nailed just about everything I could think of Did you go back and check the mileage based on the odo and how much gas it took or used the dash meter?

We had one come like that a few days ago(already sold) and it looked good to me. Even if she does go with a light color, at least the tops of the door panels, console, and dash are now black on 08's, looks much more 'custom' then the 07 colors.

That would be a courtesy shake :shades:

I agree with the 'why get a cuv without AWD?'. As to the accident listed above, the drivetrain had nothing to do with it as explained ad nauseum. You can actually get it to a bit more trouble with AWD as in snow you basically give it the throttle and it just goes, next thing you know you're doing 55 on a snow covered road and turning and stopping becomes a whole different matter. In a RWD sports car it takes such an effort to get up to any type of driving speed you become hyper-aware of how slippery the road really is. You have to respect the added capeability of AWD in very slippery conditions, if you're not carefull it will bite you quick. I regularly drive FWD Edges on test drives and fill them up when I sell them, and just making a right into fast moving traffic in the rain, you can tell RIGHT away its not the same vehicle as the AWD. Argue all you want about it, but if I'm driving a bigger, lumbering vehicle, I'm getting all the capeability it does have available. If I want 2WD, its going to be a small, powerfull sports car.

Toyota would never pay to put the extra metal in a CUV to provide enough strength to support a roof like the Edge's. It's just a concept, one step up from a clay model. The front looks rediculous.

Perfect chance to get flames painted on it

I'm seeing this as a trend on a lot of newer cars, I'm not crazy about it either. First Ford that did it was the 2000 Focus. It's hit or miss as only a few Ford's do that.

The brake pedal does have a lot of travel for sure. She'll stop, but it takes a bit more pedal action then what most are used too. I've gotten used to it, but still is the only thing I'm not crazy about. When you are in higher-effort stops-like 50mph roads where you are 1 sec behind not stopping for the light and have to get on it, the power feels much more normal. It makes 45mph heavy traffic take a bit more mental effort. Following a car a hair too close in traffic(the 'zone' where you're not on their ass, but you don't want everyone cutting in front of you), it feels a bit mushy. I may upgrade it myself for a set of front upgraded suv brakes(like ceramic HP units) to give it a bit more initial bite, its not that expensive to just change pads, about $50 and an hour's work. The 6-speed will get a bit 'smarter' with more driving time getting used to your style(and breaking in in general). There are still a few points at certain speeds or throttle inputs it will rev a little high without being provoked(i.e. high-revs, no real thrust), but all automatics are like that at some point. Its as if it went one gear down further then your foot was trying to get it to do. But the upshifts in normal driving and the 6-5th downshift are liquid smooth. Even the most sophisticated transmissions have holes in the programing. But going from a stop with the pedal mashed or flooring it at 55mph yields a lot of thrust. Its not mind boggling, but plenty peppy for the vehicle type. Every once in a while I'll give it half throttle and it will go one gear too low albeit very smoothly, but be revving much higher then I thought, as if it thought I was going to floor it. Its nothing like older 4 speeds though where you often get stuck between either too low a gear for a super dramatic downshift and uncomfortably high revs or the next gear down and there's absolutely 0 thrust even with the pedal mashed. It has a redline well over 6k rpm's, so 4k which sounds very high for a typical V8, is really not even in the optimum power range just yet. If you were trading from a modern V6 Japanese sedan, you would feel right at home, if you're coming from a low-rpm, high torque V8 truck it will be quite a different beast. You'll get used to it

Yea, the 20's are a bit noisy. I even drove a base SE Edge for a few days with bad weather and noticed how much smoother the ride was, as most of the ones we stock run on 18"s. I drove a limited Edge with the 20's and you could definitely hear more road noise. On the flip side, you do feel sidewall curl and notice the gain/loss of handling crispness as well between the sizes. I think the 18"s are probably the best compromise. Too bad on the Edge they don't offer the sport handling package with the 18"s. Usually when you are buying/just bought something, always try to work the salesperson to work the manager for you first Typically dealer's don't like swapping wheels or things like trunk spoilers on Mustangs because if a dealer wants to do an exchange, comes down and has a porter pick the vehicle up with a check for the car, and THEN the other dealer finds out it has something not on the invoice for their own customer(usually the car is sold and paid for before they even get it to the dealer) it causes problems. Not everybody is that in the know with every inventory piece and only one or two people even know it was changed. In your case it was a win/win situation for the most part and everybody is a little slow right now in sales, so I'm surprised they gave you flack about it-its not like they couldn't rotate them again to another unit as it's an upgrade per se-but most dealers don't look at it that way and think of it as tampering with inventory. The managers are not that involved personally with each sale like a salesperson so swapping parts sounds even less favorable to them. They still should of made it clear why it was an issue politely though and not give you any sense of being barked at.

It could be anything. Sometimes a slight tweak of the seat base angle can alleviate it. The steering wheel not being the right spot too can cause it as reaching the wrong way can tweak your lower back. Typically its just a small adjustment off.

Congratulations! Even though I drive dozens of different cars a week(including Edges), my personal cars are usually hot rods, so it took me a good week to get used to not being in something lowered. Driving my own vehicles on my time off is always different then driving various vehicles when I'm not at the dealer, its hard to explain the difference. I've really taken a liking to it, its just a damn good do-anything vehicle. Quiet ride and great turning radius and a lot of light coming through the roof, it's quite pleasant to drive. My Mustang is still on the lot and I took it to lunch yesterday, and was right back to speeding in no time. But I don't miss it nearly as much as I thought I would-for the cool factor 10% of the time, the other 90% with worrying about the car when it sits alone, dealing with it in traffic, getting followed by cops, other people constantly wanting to race, being trapped at home if it snows, etc, was getting old. When I have room for a second car I'll get another toy. The Edge makes a great 'can do' daily driver thats nowhere near as annoying as a huge SUV.

My good ol buddies... All the sports cars I have owned, most not driven lightly, I have met quite a few of them over the years

I'm not big on bling wheels in general, but the Edge looks great with them as the huge chrome grille lets you get away with quite a bit and not look overdone. Plus in Florida you get a lot of warm sunny days so they can twinkle. Me likey

Don't forget that it also helps to COOL the vehicle in the summer, in NC they do have humid triple digit days with a glass-roof car....