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Went to the dealer yesterday, service checked the car's Remote start, svc mgr. says that the rear defroster needs to be "on" when you shut down and leave the car. I told him the owner's manual (climate control section) says nothing about leaving the df button turned on. It will ignore any previous settings. He insists it is working properly and says all the cars w/ this feature work the same way. Anyway, a couple of days before going to the shop, we had a cold night, 28-30 F degrees, and it did defrost the back window in the morning like it should. So, based on my experience, the service manager does not know what he's talking about, and, when using R/S, defroster does not activate above 32 F.

It's going in to the dealer on Mon. I'll keep this forum posted.

That's the first thing I checked, it's enabled. thanks. I'm curious to know if it only activates at or below freezing when using remote start. If I know the answer, it would indicate if the problem is w/ the remote start module.

Hello, Glad you can offer some insite on our Edges. I'm not sure if theres a problem w/ my rear window defroster. Here are the details: 2012 Edge Limited, AWD, built, 10/11, I live in NY. In cold weather, when I use the remote start, the rear defroster should work (it is set on auto on MFT left menu screen). I read somewhere that it works when temps are at or below freezing. Is this so?? It did work in the past, I saw it melt frost (rear view mirrors too) in early morning, I think it was above freezing at the time. When I manually turn it on, it seems to work, but weak. The heating elements look fine. Before I go to the dealer, I'd like to know for sure if at or below freezing activates the Defroster when using R/S. Thank you.

I doubt it. Aside from using window cleaner and paper towel, It does not get touched. I read in the forum that it turns on (w/remote start) when temps are below freezing. Is this so? But I think it removed frost in the a.m. when temp was above 32F. All else worked fine.

Hello, Does anyone know where the fuse for the rear defroster is? I have the limited w/ remote start. When R/Started, it should among other heaters, fire-up the rear window, but it does not. When I push the rear defroster button, it bearly works. Thx folks

Boring, but enjoy

Hi akirby, I spoke to the svc mgr. at the Ford dealer. They would need to hold the car for the day, and will not hand over the SD card b/c they fear the customer will "mess things up". So it looks like I'll have to take it in. I did download the software upgrade to a thumb drive, but to do the complete job, you need the card too, so i"m stuck. Another question, SMR has another download for checking your current software level. I followed the instructions to download, put the drive into the port in the car, started it, drive light was flashing, waited a few minutes, then removed the drive. Version info should be on the drive, yes? I go back to the SMR site, but did not find instructions on how to upload and find out what I have. What did I miss?

Hello, I read someplace about a new software release to update MFT nav systems. There is a TSB out #12-11-1 that relates to 2011-2013 Edges and Explorers. My Ford dealer has not contacted me about this, so I learned about it from SMR. According to the TSB, the upgrade may need a new SD card, version A4. My question is; 1- Has Ford shipped or planning to ship the software upgrade thumbdrive WITH the SD card? 2- If it needs to be done at the dealer, will they charge you for the new A4 SD card? 3- If you had it installed. Asside from reinstalling addresses and reparing phone, does it run better? Thanks much all.

I second that.

Hello, I bought the "no need to towel dry" car wash kit awhile back. It worked very well. Does anyone know why the refill bottles of soap are so scarce. Are they sold anymore? The complete kit is easy to find. Thx.

I know, it's in the small screen, but it is distracting to find behind the steering wheel rim while driving. They had it right the first time, where passengers can see it too.

Hello all, Is it possible to go back to the previous software version of sync after you loaded the latest upgrade? I ask because ford has removed several features that I liked on the current one. Besides, like many other folks, I do not use all the features it had to offer so it was fairly stable on my 2012. Thanks much.

Dear Ford, If you read this forum, please furnish an update that puts the temperature back on the home screen!!! You have managed to overcome bankruptcy, managed to design state-of-the-art and advanced vehicles, and managed to blow the competition away. Why couldn't you leave this in?? Another nice-to-have would be to put the climate fan speed back on the home screen again instead of having to open the climate screen to see what level it's on. Lots of complaints regarding the above. Do something about it please.

Hello all, On the latest version of navigation map software (installed March'12), is there a way to hide POI Icons on the screen and later retrieve (unhide) them. My screen is set to show "fast food" icons and there are few that show in my area, but when I drive in to NYC they almost cover up the screen. I pick the menu to "hide icons", but when I get home and try to unhide them, they are gone and I have to go thru and reselect "resturant" listing of icons again. Other than going on a diet, is there an easier way to unhide them as they were originally stored? Thx much

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- They can get data w/o your knowledge. They can disable your car if "THEY" really want to.

It exists now, GM (Govt. Motors) has OnStar......

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Yea, for me thats the last resort. I know its under warrentee and all, but I'm afraid they might screw or damage something else and not tell you.

I wonder if it got fixed when (or if) the battery was disconnected, resetting the software/electronics?

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thanks all, I'll check the belt. I was hoping it turns out to be something simple that I can fix it before spending time at the dealer. The light will probably be off by the time I drop it off. BTW, as Edgieguy said about the MFT staying on. I had the same problem (occasionally), but it went away when I installed the upgrade in March '12. Seems like the new software is slowing down a bit since the install, but has not crashed yet. When I drive into NYC, it really slows down when all the fast food icons pop up. I need to hide them, but in doing so, I loose the settings and need to select them all over again. Is there a way to unhide them w/o re-selecting?

Hello, Not sure if this is the right section to post this but here it goes. My limited AWD check battery light comes on and stays on when I start the car for the first time in the morning. It happends 2 or 3 days a week. When it does, the light goes out after 2 minutes or so while driving and stays off the rest of the day. The terminals and fuses look ok. The car starts right up every time. It has just over 7000 miles, and I'm thinking of taking it to the dealer, but just curious if this is a sign of a weak battery? All ready?? Has anyone in the forum have this happen and get it fixed? Thanks much

Hello, I am a new member and have a question about sync on my 2012 edge. When I took delivery, the salesman demonstrated all the nice things sync can do. I was impressed with accessing weather info and maps which worked nicely back then. A few days later I tried calling up the weather myself. It worked a couple of times, but recently, it gets stuck on acquiring. I see an hourglass logo next to weather and weather map menus. The following day, the hourglasses are still there. Is there a way to cancel or clear the acquiring mode or hourglass without doing a master reset. I do not want to loose my settings. Also I notice that it takes about two minutes for the nav system to define a destination. Is this normal? My 2008 would create a destination in seconds. Thanks all.

DODGE?? From the pan to the fire.

Hi ZypherDraco, Your description seems to be exactly what I'm getting. The smell is hard to explain, but others tell me it smells like burnt lubricant, so I think your right. I'll check under the car this w/e, but I have a couple of questions; 1. How many seals on the PTU need replacement. Where are they located? 2. How many days did it take the dealer to fix the car? Thanks much.

KLC, I'm sold. I just called Tire rack to switch my order to the plain Lats. The plain lats are a little better on the snow, have a higher treadwear rating (as you implied), and they are less expensive too. I could live w/ slightly less performance, if there is any. The icing on the cake is that they offered a $70 rebate on top of it all. Many Thanks :yup: