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JohnCT

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  1. My sister went to have new tires installed on her 2009 AWD, and the tire shop couldn't get one of the lug nuts off on the right front. I took a quick look at it and the stud itself is spinning in the hub (I opened a hole on the decorative outer trim cap to see the stud center). Is there enough room behind the hub to tack weld the stud down to the back of the hub in order to pull the wheel off? She's going back today because they said they could change the stud, but in case they run into a problem, I'd like to know what my options are. If we can get it apart, I'll change the hub/bearing. Also, are these front hubs problematic where it might be better to replace both front hub/wheel bearings? Thanks. John
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    Spark Plugs

    My sister's 09 set a code last week for a #3 misfire (front of the engine) so I tossed in an NGK plug I picked up locally to get her going. The original misfiring plug was gapped over .09. I ordered a set of Motorcraft plugs, Motorcraft coil boots, Motorcraft PCV valve, and Felpro intake plenum gaskets and changed them Saturday. These plugs are supposedly pregapped but they were inconsistent. Half of them needed to be tweaked. All the rest of the remaining original plugs were in the same shape with over .085 and up gap measured. At 90K miles, these plugs were probably at least 20K beyond their expiration. And just like the old Escapes, a misfire will damage the coil drivers in the PCM and require replacement or rebuild of the PCM, so it's prudent to replace the plugs *before* they misfire. The total job took about 90 minutes and required no special tools. Just a basic socket set, a channel lock pliers to squeeze a hose clamp that held a hose onto the plenum, and a "cats claw" tool to help pop out the wire looms. It may seem daunting at first but removing the upper intake plenum is very easy. Just remember to stuff rags into the intake runners after the plenum is removed lest you drop something down the intake and into the engine (that's bad folks.) There is information both on the web and on this site from other members for the procedure so I won't describe it except to say it's an easy job. Don't be afraid to change the plugs yourself, and make sure you do BEFORE you get a misfire and damage your PCM. John
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    Rebuild Cost of Engine

    I gotta tell you, if the engine has 30K miles on it I wouldn't touch anything on it - just plug and play. Okay, I'd probably change the plugs as long as it's on the engine stand but that's it. At 30K miles, the engine is for all intents and purposes virtually new. John
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    PTU discontinued by Ford

    Thanks for the info. My sister has the Edge now and I'll change her coolant before the winter. What brand of coolant have you been using? John
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    PTU discontinued by Ford

    All cars have problems, even Jeeps. But I've owned an 88 Sable, 95 Sable, two 95 Windstars, 2004 Escape and a 2005 Escape (bought used to replace the Windstars in my business). Both Sables needed transmissions. Fortunately, I specifically ordered the 3.0 Vulcan V6s because they were available so no engine problems. Both Windstars blew transmissions and both needed their Essex V6 engines rebuilt because of head gaskets. Both Escapes needed the CD4E transmissions rebuilt. The only Ford that was bullet proof was my 2000 Explorer Sport that I specifically ordered with a manual because the automatics were known to be junk. Between the German Cologne 4.0 and the Japanese (Mitsu) manual transmission, the power train gave me no trouble. BTW, all the above failures were known issues from the day they were put in production and never addressed. The 2002 Jeep Grand Cherokee we bought new now has about 300K miles on it, and it's on it's original engine, original automatic trans, and original transfer case. In all this time I've replaced the cooling fan, fan controller, passenger side power window regulator, the coil pack and last week the alternator. All these things I did in my driveway except for a vacuum line leak that a garage smoked out (rubber lines at charcoal canister near gas tank). My son still has this Jeep and it's still running well. I bought a Jeep Compass to replace one of the Escapes and a new Grand Cherokee for my wife. There were not many bigger Ford fans around than I was, but it reaches a point of absurdity, and I'm there now. And as Bigblock says above, it's a shame. Ford really did their homework on the NVH of the Edge. It's as tight, smooth, and silent a ride as I've ever experienced. The resale is in the toilet because it's typical Ford major systems failures have become known. If Ford snuffed these problems out early in production instead of making the owners cover the costs, resale on Ford products would be much higher. John
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    PTU discontinued by Ford

    Hijack away. This is important information to anyone who still has an Edge. Hopefully, something as innocuous as a silly water pump didn't destroy your engine. Hmmm... burying a water pump inside the timing cover... what could go wrong? I left Ford in the early 2000s because of constant auto trans problems and the Essex V6 engine failures (I've had them all). We bought the Edge because my wife liked it, we got a good deal on it, and I had heard that GM had a lot to do with the Edge's transmission design, so I took a chance. The PTU going out at 50K has taught me that sometimes you just can't go home. The Edge is gone and I'm back with Jeep. The last Ford I'll own is one I bought the year I got married: a 1966 Mustang 2+2 bought in 1985. I'll keep this car and give it to my son when I'm all done driving, but Ford has bitten me for the last time. John
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    PTU discontinued by Ford

    Do you mean *literally* into the oil pan? Coolant in the oil will strip the babbitt off the bearings and destroy the engine in a very short time. John
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    PTU replacement hints and info

    Sure, they're fair game.. John
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    PTU discontinued by Ford

    Although the PTU has a fairly severe angle on the ring and pinion, it's otherwise just a gear box with no clutches. It's hard to believe that it's just friction alone (particularly since it's all roller bearing) that could cause synthetic fluid breakdown of this magnitude, which is why I believe the PTU's proximity to the cat is a huge contributing factor. It's tiny fluid capacity is another contributing factor, but still points back to unmitigated heat gain. I have no evidence, but logical speculation would suggest that Ford designed and prototyped several examples of the PTU which were run with full torque to see how the box could cope with stress and heat. I would assume the box would have to have passed these bench tests before production was ordered. My speculation is that the environment the PTU experiences as installed in these platforms was an unforeseen problem that caught Ford by surprise. I unloaded my Edge after installing a new PTU, but if I was going to keep it, the plan was to fabricate and install a heat shield and airflow diverter and monitor the temperatures before and after with a thermocouple to test the effectiveness of it. John
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    2009 Sync wonky

    Or even less! If you search "Ford" "GPS" and "Pink", you get this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/mini-GPS-Active-Antenna-Fakra-SMB-Pink-H-jack-3M-Cable-for-ford-lincoln-Mercury-/281126337095?epid=668911223&hash=item41746f7a47:g:JZwAAOxyIAZRx7P8 It seems that the Chinese aftermarket has these covered, and by the number of various knock offs available and the amount of them they sell for all brands of cars, it would appear these active antennas are troublesome. John
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    2009 Sync wonky

    Got it! Next time I see the car I'll pull the radio and check the ant connection and NOT waste my time with the shark fin at the back (which I was ready to pull out). My sister said today that the map is actually updating and is closer to home, but still has the "no gps" indicator. Hopefully, it's a marginal connection or an antenna issue at worst. When I get it sorted out I'll post the solution. John
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    PTU discontinued by Ford

    We know how many Ford made, but do we really know how many fail? When the Jeep dealer asked about our trade, I told him it was an Edge and had a problem. *He* asked if it was the PTU. Seems they had a bunch of Explorers and Flex' they took on trade that they had to replace them in. I laughed, told him yes, and I had the new PTU in a box in the back and he still didn't want it despite it being a loaded Limited pearl white with vista roof and nav. The word is out. When I brought one of my Escapes in for a trans rebuild a couple of years ago, I asked the owner (independent shop) how the Edge trans were, and he told me the PTUs were far more trouble. It was then that I suspected the noise and vibration I was hearing was not the rear wheel bearing. Maybe. I don't pretend to know for sure, but there's definitely a chicken or the egg thing going on. Somebody here who is reported to be "in the know" said the problem could be a one time overheat of the PTU fluid, so regular maintenance would not prevent this (I had suggested a long term coking of the fluid). It could very well be a seal failure leading to loss of fluid leading to overheating of the remaining fluid due to less of it and more friction with less lubrication. The other possibility is that the box just gets too damned hot causing the seal to fail from the scorching heat, or failing due to loss of lubrication by the scorched fluid. Again, chicken or the egg. The other thing that bothers me is that the PTU is mostly free wheeling; the majority of engine torque is transferred to the front wheels through the intermediate shaft, not the PTU. Also, there are no clutches in the PTU. Is it really possible that this box generates that much heat without handling that much torque just from friction losses? Perhaps. Again, I'm not a mechanical engineer. Back when I planned to keep the Edge, I was going to mount a thermocouple on the far side off the PTU (away from the cat) and measure the temperature of the PTU during stop and go, highway driving, and pulling long hills (which we live among around here). If the PTU showed steady temperatures well within the capability of the lube, it would make sense that a leak might be the trigger. But if the PTU showed wildly differing temps, then my plan was to fabricate a heat shield and air deflector to keep the cat's heat off the PTU and redirect airflow under the car over the PTU. I took a far easier path and gave the car to my sister. Other than the Nav acting up right now, she absolutely loves this car. John
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    2009 Sync wonky

    Thanks sir. Yes, I had tried that yesterday and first had zero satellites, later I tried it and it said 2 or 3, I can't remember which, but the car was outside with no tree cover whatsoever, and it was clear day as well. Open shot to the sky. The Sat antenna is the bump on the top of the air deflector on the rear hatch, yes? I've read other references that mention the antenna being behind the radio under the dash pad, but I'm pretty sure it's out back. Next time I see the car I'll pull the antenna out and check the connections, clean them and try adding some dielectric grease to it/them. Strange that when Googling the "no gps" symbol, everyone who posted mentioned this happened after a dead battery. Odd. John
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    2009 Sync wonky

    When checking the radio today, I found it mostly functional. What doesn't work is the Nav. There's a box with a NO GPS indicator in the upper left hand corner. It thinks the car is some 20 miles away from where it actually is, and won't change as the car is driven. It also won't allow the time to be set (the buttons are greyed out). I tried pulling the four fuses for half an hour, and no joy. I disconnected the battery for 10 minutes and I remain without any joy. I tried a Master Reset (no help there) and a restore default that would supposedly sync something to the nav or gps (can't remember) and it's still unaware of where it is. Any ideas? GPS antenna perhaps? John
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    PTU replacement hints and info

    Came with a 5/60 power train. Under mileage but over time... John
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