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The best way to update firmware is using FDRS because some things require firmware to be updated in specific orders and it is difficult to know if firmware will be compatible. Here is how to update firmware:

https://forscan.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=18751

As shown in the wiring diagrams, all of the connectors are in the front on the driver's side area. There are 2 big main connectors. You need to unplug 4 connectors to remove the front grill: horn, 2 big connectors, and there is a smaller connector that runs up to the center for the hood switch and an air temperature sensor. I have confirmed with a tone generator that I have 2 network wires going down to the bumper. I will have to look back at the wiring diagrams to confirm power from DCDC booster and verify with a multimeter. It looks like I will run about 3ft of wire from the radar to the driver's side area where all of the wiring is. Soon I will remove my bumper a second time to hopefully mount and wire the radar.

The radar in ACC requires a smooth surface rather than open grill slats to ensure optimal signal transmission and reception. A smooth surface allows radar waves to pass through unobstructed, minimizing any distortion or scattering that could occur with slats. Grill slats can cause diffraction and partial reflection of the radar signals, leading to inaccuracies in detecting the distance, speed, and position of vehicles and obstacles ahead. These inaccuracies can compromise the functionality and safety of the ACC system, potentially leading to slower response times or even failure to detect objects correctly. A smooth, radar-transparent surface ensures the radar is protected and can operate with maximum efficiency and accuracy.

An update to my progress, I finally removed my front grill. The active shutters will not be a problem. The plastic piece in the lower part of the active shutters pops right off to install a radar. I have the mounting points to install the radar, I have attached a photo of the holes. The lower grill might interfere with the radar because of its open slats. I will have to cut the center of the lower grill and install a flat piece of plastic to protect the radar.

Mine is behind on updates and I think the only solution is to manually update all modules software using FDRS.

I have the shutters that are in the second photo with the Tasca watermark. The first photo are shutters for ACC vehicles. I will try to remove the piece of plastic in the center of the lower shutters that is in the way of the CCM. I think the only purpose of a new lower grill is to provide protection for the CCM. Hopefully I can get a signal to the IPMA through one of the connectors in the engine bay. If not, I might have to splice into the IPMA inside and run a wire out the door and under the hood to test LOL. I have attached a photo of the front grill removed (not mine). You can see the CCM installed right inside of the active shutters and the lower grill removed.

There is another problem. The active grill shutters might get in the way of the radar. Once I remove my front grill, I will know.

I popped the IPMA cover off and luckily I have the 2 radar wires. I lifted it off with my hands on the part that is closest to the front. There are 4 clips as shown in the WSM. Hopefully the wires will continue down through all of the other connectors and into the bumper. I have tried to research all of the Ford forums that mention retrofitting ACC. I ordered a CCM and wire connector, they should be arriving soon. When they arrive I will try to install the radar and play around to see if I can get anything to work without replacing the ABS or SCCM. If we are able to replace the ABS module with FORScan, that would be nice.

Do you have any information on the lower grill? What do we need it for?

Edit: It looks like there is a cover in the center. What is the purpose of the cover? I wonder if the cover can be replicated by attaching a piece of plastic to the lower bumper?

Edit: I would assume that we would just need plastic to cover the area so that no debris can hit the radar.

6 hours ago, johnmarkp said:

I will be following your progress closely.  From reading the F150 posts, I think there is one programming step that cannot be done with Forscan.  It has to be done using Ford equipment.  Did you find this in your searches?

 

It seems that 2018 F-150 owners were having a FORScan issue programming ABS. This was a few years ago, so I am going to assume that the FORScan team has figured out the problem by now. Additionally, Fusion owners were able to replace their ABS module and get stop and go to work with FORScan. Comparing photos of the Edge and Fusion ABS modules, they look almost identical. I will have to try and find out for certain. If not, I will have to get a 2 day Motorcraft license.

I will be using FORScan to program the features and calibrate the new radar. I will most likely not do any firmware updates, as my lane keep assist has been doing a good job at recognizing markings. I have not calculated selling and purchasing another Edge with Stop and Go ACC. I plan on keeping my 2021 SEL until it does not make financial sense to repair. Hopefully it can last to 200k miles. I don’t want to go through a hassle of buying and selling vehicles. So far, I have been able to use FORScan to install puddle lights and OEM remote start. I drilled holes into my mirrors, installed cheap LEDs, wired the lights as if they were OEM, and enabled them using FORScan. I replaced my RTM and got a 5 button key fob (300mhz to 900mhz). For this ACC project, I will be sourcing used parts to save on cost. I will not be following the programmable parameters in SSM 51055. Instead, I will be installing ACC (along with lane centering, stop and go, evasive steering assist, upgraded AEB (IPMA + CCM as opposed to IPMA only), and I might even try speed sign recognition) as if it came from the factory. I can’t think of any other problems that I might run into. Hopefully everything will work. Once again, thanks for all of the helpful documentation.

1 hour ago, Haz said:

2007 through 2024 Edge: Vacuum Brake Booster only, regardless of whether Cruise Control is conventional or adaptive.

 

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Per your 2020 Workshop Manual description, all Edge/MKX, and Nautilus (thru 2023) Adaptive Cruise Control systems utilize the ABS Module and Hydraulic Control Unit (HCU) to accomplish Adaptive Cruise braking.

 

So, no, an Electric Brake Booster is not required for Adaptive Cruise Control on an Edge, MKX, or Nautilus (thru 2023).

 

With that said, the 2024 Nautilus is equipped with an Electric Brake Booster which is utilized by its Adaptive Cruise Control system.

 

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Good luck!

Thank you for all of the information. It has been extremely helpful. From my research, (all non-hybrid) Escape, Bronco, and Maverick owners that tried to retrofit stop and go seemed to be reporting somewhat limited brake performance because they did not have an electric brake booster. This is great news, as it is one less part we need for ACC stop and go! I wonder why those other Fords needed electric brake boosters for better braking performance, but the Edge does not?

With this new information, I don't see any more challenges in the way, and I believe that I have all of the information necessary to install ACC stop and go. I will start ordering parts and see what happens!!

On 4/25/2024 at 5:35 PM, garycrist said:

Lane Centering, yea right except when there is a tar stripe down the road. I love fighting

the automatic slow down sometimes when changing lanes, at least I am a left foot braker.

(For some reason one can't heel and toe the way they have the pedals set)

 

Lane Centering costed us a lot in our 1st. week. The lane centering wobbled the wheel, the wife

jerked the car into the curb. No curb rash but, the rims were bent and we lost 2 new tires. $1K

lost in the 1st. week!

I have read somewhere that IPMA firmware upgrades have helped the camera follow lane markings better, and avoid tar stripes. 

Does the 2019-2024 Edge with ACC stop and go use an electronic brake booster or a vacuum brake booster? I tried to look though my WSM and library resources, but I couldn’t find anything about an electronic brake booster.

My hypothesis is that an Edge with stop and go ACC will have an electronic break booster, while an Edge without ACC will have a vacuum break booster.

Thank you for all of the documents. It seems that Ford Escapes, Mavericks, and Broncos are running into a brake issue. Vehicles with factory adaptive cruise with stop and have an electronic brake booster which is able to provide greater breaking support, whereas vehicles without factory adaptive cruise use a traditional vacuum brake booster. I searched through my 2020 workshop manual, and I could not find anything about electronic brake boosters. From my 2020 WSM:

On vehicles equipped with adaptive cruise control, the CCM monitors the area forward of the vehicle. When an object enters this area and closes
the distance gap set by the driver, the CCM sends either an adaptive cruise control deceleration request or a collision avoidance deceleration
request to the IPMA over a private LIN. The IPMA then sends the message to the ABS module over the HS-CAN2. When the deceleration
request message is received, the ABS module activates the hydraulic pump motor and solenoid valves in the HCU to slow the vehicle down to
maintain the distance gap set by the driver. Once the distance gap set by the driver is achieved, the CCM stops sending the deceleration request
message and the ABS module deactivates the hydraulic pump motor and solenoid valves in the HCU. If the CCM determines the amount of
braking provided by the ABS module is insufficient, the CCM sends a forward collision avoidance braking request message to the ABS module
and warns the driver, both audibly and visually, through the use of the HUD. After receiving the braking request message, the ABS module waits
for brake pedal input and applies maximum braking assist using the hydraulic pump motor and the HCU.

I am unsure if the Edge needs an electronic brake booster for ACC. So far, the only difference I have found is in the ABS module. Vehicles with adaptive cruise control have "CADS3" on the ABS module, while vehicles without adaptive cruise control have "ACC SS" on the ABS module.

On 4/25/2024 at 10:28 AM, Haz said:

Detailed information on those driver assist systems from the 2022-2024 Edge Workshop Manual is attached below...

 

Good luck!

Are you able to provide the wiring diagrams for the CCM and IPMA? I am looking for the CCM and IPMA pinout. I am trying to figure out how the IPMA wire runs down to the bumper and where all of the connections are, and also where the CCM gets its power from. I don't know if my vehicle is prewired for a CCM, or if I will have to run a wire from the IPMA to the CCM. Thanks. 

My 2021 doesn’t want to update. It’s behind on sync updates. I don’t have any of the apps or games. I only have the basic stuff and the drawing app. It always shows that no updates are available.

Edit: removed my comment because it isn’t helpful.

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After further research, I believe I need the following parts: Cruise Control Module Radar, CCM Mount, CCM Wire Connector / wiring harness, misc. wire to run between IPMA and CCM, SCCM switch (probably optional), and an ABS/HCU module for ACC.

Glare free highbeams:

https://media.ford.com/content/fordmedia/feu/en/news/2016/03/18/drivers-can-now-keep-the-high-beams-on-worry-free--new-ford-head.html
 

You should be able to enable glare free with FORScan as long as you have the dual projector headlights.

4 hours ago, Yurez said:

Good afternoon. What year is your car? Can you post the dashboard configuration?

Certainly! It is a 2021 Ford Edge SEL. What configuration do you need?

2019 2020 2021 2024 Ford Edge Adaptive Cruise Control Install Retrofit Lane Centering Stop and Go ACC

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I have a 2021 Edge with standard cruise control. Has anyone successfully got adaptive cruise control with stop and go and lane centering to work on a 2019+ edge? I have read other posts about regular ACC but I can't seem to find too much information on lane centering.

On 12/21/2021 at 3:08 PM, andyak said:

Rats. 

Missed it by one year.......?

Time to do a retrofit! hehe

edit: whoops this post is old

Locksmith came and was able to program and cut the new 900mhz fob. I used the 5 button aftermarket clone fob and everything worked instantly. I don’t have a power liftgate, but when I press the 2x trunk button, the liftgate unlocks as if I pressed the button on the bottom of it.