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  1. Nice advice from Blitz, to look at the 2016. Kinks should be worked out. Maybe some different interior choices with the Sport. I put a summary of our recent shopping for my sister-in-law and another friend, who are starting to shop for a new SUV. Much of that re-purposed here: I had been shopping the Edge - specifically the Sport - and thought we might wait for the 2016 models, but we finally punted and got the 2016 Kia Sorento EX AWD turbo 2.0 with tech. The Sorento is lighter, and so the 2.0 Turbo felt livelier - to me - than the Edge's 2.0T. The 2.7 EB T Edge is fast! The Sorento 2.0T, in Sport mode, is fun too. I did prefer the Edge's better model of Michelin tire. My wife preferred the Sorento on multiple points. Note to OP, if you don’t have much in the way of hills, check out the QX60; the CVT transmission might not bother you. Not much in the way of strong engine, however. ..... We drove Edge, Sorento, Santa Fe (both), MDX, Infinity QX60 (personally didn't like the CVT transmission, otherwise very nice!), Highlander, 2016 Pilot (a bit too big, and a bit too mini-van like), CRV, VW Touareg and the Murano (CVT and a bit to stylish). We had a flexible budget. If you don't need all of the space, try the Mazda 2016 CX5, QX50, and maybe the new 2016 Hyundai Tuscon with the ultimate trim. Skip the CRV. Living at about 6,000', turbos are nice; non-turbos loose about 3.5% of power per 1000’. The Hyundai Sport 2.0T was good, but the Sorento was better overall. The MDX, Edge, and Sorento were finalist. We didn't like the dark interior and headliners of the Edge Sport, nor in the Sorento SXL model. (If this isn't a concern, the SXL with the tech is a great package to cross-shop.) The Acura MDX has had it’s share of problems since 2014, and these seem ongoing into the 2016. The MDX with the options we wanted, well, the value wasn’t there. With Kia’s incentives, and their dealer’s pricing flexibility, they offer real value. (Acura, Honda and others talked about $ off of MSRP. With Kia we talked about $ back of invoice; $1500. back of invoice before rebates.) Kia was 2nd only to Porsche on the 2015 JD Power Initial Quality survey (and a close second). They should do well in 2016 too. Forum posters love their 2016 Sorento, and even the previous 2014/5; less so the 2011-13 (some exploding panoramic roofs). We leased ("short term rent") the Sorento, $360./mo with sales taxes, registration, license, zero cap cost reduction other than their rebates; all in with origination fee $595., doc fee $232., and disposition fee $400., ownership cost still at $400./mo for 24 months, 12K miles a year. Free oil changes. And probably no need to even buy tires. 67% residual on the MSRP, and we got it for $1500. under invoice. The money factor worked out to 1.57%. Others to look at, if you wait until spring: VW is supposed to introduce some new SUV AWD that are much lighter than their off-road capable Touareg. Those could be interesting! Also, I hope Mazda introduces a competitive CX9; it really needs an update. We almost got one when we got our XC90. Our thinking was that we might buy a used 2016 Volvo XC90 in two years, if their reliability is there, and if a local dealer pulls their act together. We like our XC90 V8, but we don't like the dealership. After a month with the Sorento, we probably won’t. By that time, Hyundai or Kia may have a luxury SUV offering along the lines of their 2015 car-of-the-year Genesis. Or, we’ll go a bit smaller and and look at the CX5 and maybe an updated Acura RDX. There are a lot of nice vehicles out there, and certainly the 2016 Edge is very nice. Good luck.
  2. And a nice post with pictures and link for purchase.
  3. I've searched for F 150 2.7 low RPM torque curves, and haven't found anything. This chip reportedly remaps a few things. I'm a bit dubious. http://www.jmschip.com/boostmax-2-7l-ford-ecoboost/
  4. Thanks. Still actively searching. 5startuning.com said they plan on a tuning/chip ECU for both the 2.0T and 2.7T. No data on Ford torque.
  5. Can anyone refer me to torque curve charts, or data on what torque is for these at a lower RPM, say @ 1700? I'm still waiting to drive these back-to-back. Thanks. Edge 2.0 T 275 @ 3,000 Edge 2.7 T 350 @ 2,750 2016 Kia Sorento 2.0 T 260 @ 1,450RPM 2015 Hyundai Santa Fe Sport 2.0T 269 @ 1,750RPM 2013 VW Touareg TDI 406 @ 2,000RPM (I would go with a used one.) 2014 Q5 2.0T 258 @ 1,500RPM (Just for comparison, I'm unlikely in the market.)
  6. What month do you anticipate 2016 models will be at dealers?
  7. I read Ford is considering rolling their new performance torque vectoring AWD system, upcoming in the Focus RS, to additional vehicles. It sounds like it would be apt for the Edge Sport. Acura has their SH-AWD in their MDX (updated on the 2016). Honda has announced a similar sounding system for their new Pilot 9maybe the MDX's previous version). Hyundai is starting to promote brake based torque vectoring as helping dynamics. Doesn't the 2015 Edge AWD perform some vectoring via the brake system? Will we see the Focus RS system on the Edge Sport? 2016 model? Here, found the reference http://blog.caranddriver.com/?p=184983
  8. Same question: Is this mechanism used on 2015 model year Edge vehicles?
  9. I just did a search for what the annual fee cost, and this came up: $585. installed, $50. annual fee. http://www.rodeoford.ca/ford-remote-access
  10. Thanks, Blitz. I've been waiting for review comments on the Sport, and there are some positive ones here: More expensive than even the Titanium, the Ford Edge Sport fixes some of these issues. Its 2.7-liter EcoBoost V-6, straight out of the most efficient aluminum F-150 and rated a healthy 315 hp and 350 lb-ft, feels like a V-8 in the Edge and without serious turbo lag. With stiffer shocks and springs, the Sport exhibits satisfyingly damped rebound on short hills and gulleys, and the steering loses that loose on-center feel. Ford says the electronic power-assisted steering is different in the Sport versus other trim levels, but surely some credit goes to the 21-inch Pirelli P Zero summer tires on our tester. They gripped the mountain curves and the short, twistier side-road diversion like we were driving a Mustang GT. OK, a bit of an exaggeration, but the 2015 Ford Edge Sport has more than enough power, and it handles really, really well … for a tall, 4,300-or-so-pound sport-utility vehicle. The question is: What do you want with a conveyance like this? A primary vehicle that comfortably transports your dogs, takes everything you might buy from the weekend farmers market, and is fun-ish to drive if your off-ramp to work is clear on Monday morning? Or do you want it to complement the Mustang GT or Miata or Cayman S in the other space in your garage?
  11. I looked around the website, and didn't find a place to sign up for News and Info. 't you have a link, or can you guide me to the place to sign up, and the place to request a brochure. Thanks!
  12. I'll likely be waiting until I can get the 2.7 Ecoboost with a light interior (Sport, Platinum orTitanium). Also, for the new non-Microsoft Sync. I hope the wait isn't too long. November 2016?
  13. So, some pretty good information there. No adaptive cruise Change oil filter from the top. Torque vectoring Head and leg room Reclining seats Pretty cool information there. ;-) A nice informational video.
  14. Thanks for noting a gating factor – the transmission – in Ford tuning the HP and torque for the Edge. The 2.7 Ecoboost seems to be quite the engine. In the future, might this increase low RPM throttle response and address any perceived lag, even if not significantly improving reported 0-60 time? I'm guessing Ford and others are looking at any/all methods to address fuel economy requirements. ---- Electronic turbocharger/supercharger to avoid spool up lag, "provides full boost three to five times faster than a turbocharger, in only 350 milliseconds.”: http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/sedans/1412_next_gen_volvo_s60_polestar_first_drive/ …triple-charging. Step on the gas and a Valeo Gen3 R70 electric supercharger spools up 70,000 rpm, drawing a peak power of 7 kilowatts from a 48-volt ultracapacitor pack in the trunk. (The ultracaps are topped up via the alternator and a DC-to-DC converter primarily during vehicle deceleration.) This produces some 22 psi of boost pressure, but it doesn't go directly into the intake manifold. Rather, it flows through two parallel Borg-Warner turbochargers, helping spool them up more quickly. The airflow from these two single-scroll turbos -- one fed by the two outermost cylinders, the other by the inner two -- gets combined in the intercooler before heading into the engine. The e-booster shuts down at about 3,300 engine rpm once the two turbos come online, and at their peak speed of 200,000 revs they develop 36 psi of boost. ----
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