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6 hours ago, omar302 said:

Note: your Edge is a EU model, that could also be an issue.

This is the reason why he can't get it enabled.

We already have the hood latch switch installed, it only needs to be enabled.. but neither after enabling all things nor with external hardware (can't remember the name of what I tried) we can have the remote start.

 

Update after a long time: some time ago a very kind guy sent me the service manual pages with the airbag removal procedure for models with adaptive steering.

If someone needs this, is attached to this message. It's in italian, but the procedure is very well explained with pictures.

 

ford service - Sistema di sicurezza supplementare - Airbag lato guida - Veicoli con Sterzo adattivo.pdf

Following. I tried some time ago but I had issues with the new steering control switch not working. Maybe I did something wrong..

4 hours ago, DaddyNev said:

Update. I have now got ACC working on my UK Edge. Issue with PCM communication protocol error resolved. Big thanks to the Forscan team for making a custom version for this PCM.

 

What type of issues did you have? I tried to swap steering wheel controls and then did the forscan mods, but controls weren't working and, due to lack of time, I had to revert all back to stock.

A very nice guy in the italian forum sent me this doc a while ago. I finally did it  but then had issues with the button blocks and reverted back to the original buttons. Since then I hadn't time to test them again.

 

ford service - Sistema di sicurezza supplementare - Airbag lato guida - Veicoli con Sterzo adattivo.pdf

Thank you for your explanation. I also believe that, once made changes in SCCM, they would work, but in my case they won't. Probably it's a defective unit.

Did they worked before the SCCM changes? I mean, the left buttons block is one piece (the upper 4-way cross+ok and the lower cc\acc buttons); maybe the lower part is not working untile the SCCm changes but the upper part is working? I could try to buy a new switch assembly but it's really strange that this is defective..

Finally I had time to work on my car for this ACC stuff!

 

With some help I managed to remove the airbag (I have the adaptive steering so you have to remove the airbag differently) and replace the switch assembly. Unfortunately this assembly seems to be defective because no buttons are working. I thought that I need to configure the SCCM before they work, but it makes no difference. Neither upper nor lower buttons are working, so I cannot navigate menus to configure options (disconnecting battery has deleted all settings).

 

@andyh1108 Can you confirm that the new switch assembly is, at least, partially working even without forscan modifications? I believe that at least the 4-way cross buttons and OK button should work even without configuration.

 

I also got some DTCs that probably confirm that the switch assembly is defective:

 

===SECM DTC B137F:4A-0A===
Code: B137F - Steering Wheel Left Switch Pack

Additional Fault Symptom:
 - Incorrect Component Installed

Status: 
 - DTC Present at Time of Request
 - Malfunction Indicator Lamp is Off for this DTC

Module: Steering Effort Control Module

 Freeze Frame :
-REALTIME: 0 s - Total time ECU has been active
-ODOMETER: 88624.0 km - Total Distance
-MAIN_SECM_V: 12.25 V - Main ECU Voltage Supply
-SW_ANGLE: 1.90 ° - Steering Wheel Angle
-INT_TEMP_SECM: 20 °C - Module internal temperature.
-ECU_TEMP_B: 15 °C - ECU Internal Temperature B
-ECU_TEMP_C: 16 °C - ECU Internal Temperature C
-VSPD: 0.0 km/h - Vehicle Speed
===END SECM DTC B137F:4A-0A===


===C-CM DTC U0401:86-28===
Code: U0401 - Invalid Data Received from  ECM/PCM A

Additional Fault Symptom:
 - Signal Invalid

Status: 
 - Previously Set DTC - Not Present at Time of Request
 - Malfunction Indicator Lamp is Off for this DTC

Module: Cruise-Control Module

 Freeze Frame :
-GLOBTIM: 134096749 s - Global real time
-IFC_D703: 0   - Internal Module Fail Code
===END C-CM DTC U0401:86-28===

===C-CM DTC U0429:86-28===
Code: U0429 - Invalid Data Received From Steering Column Control Module

Additional Fault Symptom:
 - Signal Invalid

Status: 
 - Previously Set DTC - Not Present at Time of Request
 - Malfunction Indicator Lamp is Off for this DTC

Module: Cruise-Control Module

 Freeze Frame :
-GLOBTIM: 134096753 s - Global real time
===END C-CM DTC U0429:86-28===

===ABS DTC U2101:00-28===
Code: U2101 - Control Module Configuration Incompatible

Status: 
 - Previously Set DTC - Not Present at Time of Request
 - Malfunction Indicator Lamp is Off for this DTC

Module: Antilock braking system

 Freeze Frame :
-GLOBTIM: 134096774 s - Global real time
===END ABS DTC U2101:00-28===


===SCCM DTC B137F:09-08===
Code: B137F - Steering Wheel Left Switch Pack

Additional Fault Symptom:
 - Component Failures

Status: 
 - Previously Set DTC - Not Present at Time of Request
 - Malfunction Indicator Lamp is Off for this DTC

Module: Steering Column Control Module

===END SCCM DTC B137F:09-08===

===SCCM DTC B137F:11-08===
Code: B137F - Steering Wheel Left Switch Pack

Additional Fault Symptom:
 - Circuit Short To Ground

Status: 
 - Previously Set DTC - Not Present at Time of Request
 - Malfunction Indicator Lamp is Off for this DTC

Module: Steering Column Control Module

===END SCCM DTC B137F:11-08===

===SCCM DTC U2101:00-08===
Code: U2101 - Control Module Configuration Incompatible

Status: 
 - Previously Set DTC - Not Present at Time of Request
 - Malfunction Indicator Lamp is Off for this DTC

Module: Steering Column Control Module

===END SCCM DTC U2101:00-08===

That "Circuit shot to ground" seems to be clear..

There are also some ccm errors, don't know if they are related to the switch assembly or the modifications. 

 

At the moment I have reinstalled the default switch assembly, cleared all DTCs and checked again, no errors.

 

 

 

 

After I bought this car I visited an official ford dealer, and the guy printed its maintenace history. There was a recall for an ECU update and nothing else. Also, he told me that there was a pending recall for the trunk (sometimes it opens randomly ? ) but that if I haven't had problems, they won't replace it ..

 

So it's really hard to guess where to make those slits without a guide.. I don't want to make a mess

 

BTW, where could I look for recalls for my specified car? I remember that they should also be on owners.ford.com but I have nothing there.

Thank you both for the replies!

I lnow that there is the adaptive steering stuff so I imagined that it could be the reason of the different removal method.

However the switch assembly I need to replace is the one on the steering wheel, not the one behind it:

 

 

so I need to remove the airbag to access the inside of the wheel.

 

@omar302 do you have the service procedure pdf for removing the airbag? I don't have slits but don't think they did any recall on this car (I got that used). Maybe the '17 was already fixed during production.

Thanks!

 

EDIT: just found a youtube video about adaptive steering, showing the inside of the wheel:

 

 

It seems that the lower 'hook' is missing (due to the a.s. motor) ant that there are two hooks on each side. You probably need to make the slits only there. 

 

A better look here, from a '17 f250

 

 

the two big 'holes' on the side seems the place to insert something from the back and push the metal clips.

 

Thank you for your reply. I already removed the steering column bottom cover, but can't see how to go on now. Better if I post some pictures:

 

This is the wheel type I'm referring to:

 

I found a youtube video explaining how to remove the Fusion steering wheel, that is identical (but without the plastic 'square' at the bottom of the wheel)

 

It refers to this hole that should be found on the bottom:

 

unfortunately my wheel is different there:

 

 

That black plastic seems to not be a cover but the actual wheel, i.e. not removable.

 

 

So I removed the steering column cover

 

It seems that european Edge have only one screw there..

but even without the cover, I can't see anything useful:

 

 

a small screw is vibile here, but not reachable

 

another couple of screws, but not useful

(I found another video that has the steering wheel already out, with these screws still installed)

 

 

It sounds a bit strange that there are no threads\infos about removing the steering wheel... ?

 

 

Hi,

I need to remove the airbag from my '17 Edge Sport to replace the left switch assembly. All guides I found on the net (mostly for fusion, but the wheel seems identical) are referring to a hole on the bottom part of the wheel, where you have to push a screwdriver to have the bag cover popping off. Unfortunately my Edge does not have any hole for this, and I had no luck searching the forum.

 

Is there some secret spot to unlock the airbag?

I'm waiting for the switch assembly to arrive from the US (almost impossible to find these parts here) so still on hold

 

Ok understood  But hopefully the changes in BPM and IPC modules listed by OP are the same I need to make to have it functional.

19 hours ago, onyxbfly said:

 

It certainly should. You would need to use the vin for a European edge to generate the proper as-built data. And you woul need to use a European RTM.

 

What do you mean? I already have an european VIN since my car is the Euro model. I vas referring to the as-built generated from my VIN for my car. About an european RTM, I'm not entirely sure that remote start is available somewhere in europe. I remember some time ago when I did some research about remote start, I found people trying to enable it on mondeo\fusion and they were searching for remotes with remote start button and 433 mhz frequencies. And I'm sure enough that EU models use 433 mhz for both remote and tpms data.

But if it works like colinc755 said, the main frequency is insignificant: US or EU, with remote start you switch to an entirely dofferent frequency.

 

6 hours ago, colinc755 said:

The brand new module I got from the ford dealership came with the 01FF 80DA value so I never had to do any programming. Technically it would be a good idea to reprogram it through IDS, but in my case it was plug and play. If for some reason it came blank then there could be issues. With how easy these are to change out its worth a shot to see if its plug and play. 

 

Do you have a ford part number for that RTM? The link you posted requires to choose an US dealer, that is a bit impractical for me from Italy

 

Do you think this could work on an european Edge? I believe here the remote works on a different frequency (433 mhz) but after being replaced, it should not be a problem.

Checking my as-built, I have the "01FF 80DA" value.

You are the man, Andy!

Thank you so much.. I'll try and report back

Yes thank you, details would be great!

Thank you for the update. So replacing the steering wheel buttons solved all your issues? Do you confirm the part number I found?

Are all the mod needed in forscan only in the CCM module?

 

Hey Andy, I'm trying to enable ACC too.

I have an European model (italian, exactly) after my research you are right: we should have all the hardware and modules for the ACC to work. Some time ago I was searching about american model, and wherever one car has Forward collision alert and emergency brake, it has adaptice cruise control too. So it is very likely that the hardware is the same. European models - at least the one sold in Italy, are almost full optional as the base model, with a few option to add, and ACC alone is option.

 

I'm following an italian forum where a guy told me to check with forscan if I have CCM, if it is present it could be possible to activate ACC, and you are the proof that the system could work. When I have some more info, I'll post here to get you updated.

 

About buttons, I got some info from Forscan forum, they should be code DG9Z-9C888-GC , this: https://www.tascaparts.com/oem-parts/ford-switch-asy-control-dg9z9c888gc

 

 

 

 

Mirror probably goes off instantly or after a few minutes after stopping the engine.

The info I was searching, with a simple and direct explanation. Thank you @Gadgetjq !

21 hours ago, Gadgetjq said:

The '15 and later Edge uses Micro2 fuses.  Here's the fuse tap you'd need.

 

 

Thank you! However the amazon page shows three different images - are the one in the picture you posted the right size? I'm still waiting to get the car so I can't check.

 

18 hours ago, ToeNuttz said:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B072J3L2JN?psc=1&ref=ppx_pop_mob_b_asin_image

 

Thank you, the dashcam I'm looking at already have the hardwire kit included, but not the fuse tap, so I'm searching for it separately.

What type of fuses are used in the internal compartment? I'm looking to buy fuse tap harness but don't know the fuse size ? 

Thank you for being up again and running!

I'm a new user but felt immediately lost without a reference point for the Edge all over the internet