Wubster100 Posted June 3 Report Share Posted June 3 (edited) 5 minutes ago, rgsheehan said: Here is the data from the road test with EGR valve disconnected. Are there any Forscan gurus on this site? I would like to be able to export the data logs in CSV format, but I don't see how to set that up in the program. Alternatively, if anyone knows the format Forscan uses (.fsl?), I could probably write a Python script to convert the data. Welcome to the forum @rgsheehan! Interesting data collection. It looks like you can save the data as a CSV file. https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=269143&d=1600129597 Edited June 3 by Wubster100 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker Posted June 4 Report Share Posted June 4 I have not used Forscan yet, but one thing I've found with mine is that the "tugging" only occurs on a damp, cool day, on a cold start. Once everything is up to operating temp, the condition quits. It was far worse before replacing the dpfe. I have not tried to replace the egr itself yet, but I may do that next. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgsheehan Posted June 5 Report Share Posted June 5 Yeah, Biker, it was your posts that convinced me to try the new DPFE. Wish that would have fixed it. My Edge doesn't seem to care if it is cold or hot, it just always runs crappy under light accel. I'm pretty doggone sure disconnecting the EGR valve made a difference. I'll try that test again next chance I get. That threw a code, of course, but I was able to reset it with Forscan. Before I reset that DTC, but -after- I reconnected the EGR, I drove it around a little with the check engine light on. The tugging was back, but maybe different?, not sure. Does anybody know if the PCM changes it's behaviors just because the light is on, even when the condition causing the light has been corrected but not yet reset? This car is so incredibly frustrating. It is really nice, looks good, comfortable, gets way better mileage than my Nissan Frontier did, cruises down the highway like a dream, but does nothing but p*ss me off when driving around town. And now also, there is the worry that the transmission or torque converter is going to fail. Even in the miraculous case where it fails under warranty, I have little faith in the underpaid serfs at the Ford 'service' garage, you know, the ones telling me 'No codes, no problem'. I'd really like to get away from all this over-tec-d emission controls rats nest, and 20 speed trans absurdities. My next one will be all electric. But until they get -that- stuff sorted out, I guess I'll just keep testing and tweaking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgsheehan Posted June 9 Report Share Posted June 9 Does anyone know if anybody else has posted Forscan (or other software) data showing the actual runtime voltages from the DPFE sensor? I have read the diagnostic procedures posted here and elsewhere and those check out for me, but I'm still trying to figure out if both my original sensor and new one are wonky, or if there is possibly something wrong with the wiring on my vehicle. That signal just looks so noisy to me. I have registered over on the Ranger 5G site to try and get any info those folks might provide. I'll post anything I find that appears as though it could possibly help us, (unless they shun me for driving a lowly Edge, and not a manly truck ) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker Posted June 9 Report Share Posted June 9 I hear ya. Well, your post has me convinced that it as something to do with EGR too. Maybe even MAP or TPS. It is definitely some sensor contributing to engine management at low part throttle. I dont know much about newer systems, but I was doing my apprenticeship when GM started with efi, and EGR only came into play once the engine was at operating temp and in closed loop. I like the vehicle too. Mine is over 160,000 kms now and no torque convertor issues. At this point, if it goes, I will replace the whole trans myself rather than lose money trading it in for something with similar problems. I'm done throwing money at Ford Credit. My kids will get this car in my will! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgsheehan Posted June 9 Report Share Posted June 9 Any way I can get in your will? I'd sure like a shot at that Z28! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker Posted June 10 Report Share Posted June 10 HA! It sure is a fun machine. I still have a bit of runway yet, so by the time I check out, it may have an aluminum 6.0 LS, coil overs and whatever other goodies I can dream up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgsheehan Posted 23 hours ago Report Share Posted 23 hours ago Update! A month or so ago, I was passing some trucks on the freeway, on boost, when the boost went away, the 'wrench' light came on, and cruise control would not work. Got off the freeway, stopped for some coffee and on startup, the wrench went away, but the Check Engine Light (CEL) was on, and still no power or cruise control. Forscan was showing me two codes, P0243 and P0299. Both related to the turbocharger wastegate. Okay, back to Ford service who, on two previous visits, gave me the 'no codes, no problem' blowoff and said something to the tune of, 'It's running normally'. So now they acknowledge a problem with the 'wastegate solenoid', order a new part, and schedule the install. They wouldn't give me the old part, but said I could look at it in the parts department. So I did, and it did not look like any of the pictures I had seen of the vacuum based system everybody shows for the 2020 Edge. I was p*ssed they just pulled something off the shelf to make the idiot customer go away. But when I got home and looked under the car, sure enough there was a new version of the part they showed me at the dealer. An electric motor version that looks like the 'control solenoid' is built in. Researching that, it appears the wastegate controller on my engine is the same as that used on the 2021+ Lincoln Nautilus. The build date on my car is December 2020, and the Edge and Nautilus are (were) built on the same assembly line, so it makes some sense there might have been some parts sharing, especially since that was the Covid era. In the meantime, my brother, who bought an F-150 twin turbo brand new a few years back noticed some surging within a few days of taking delivery. He took it back and the service manager said, 'no codes no problem', but he also said to try premium fuel, regardless of Ford and the manual saying it could handle the 87 octane bilge water. He did that and the problem disappeared. I did that too. I am now running Tier 1 premium fuel, and with the wastegate fix, my car is running so good I am almost afraid to mention it, fearing I might jinx things. Everything is better, the engine is smoother, even the transmission and its' goofy shift points and lockup strategy seems happier. This is the car I was hoping for. Haven't checked the mileage yet. Wish I could say which one of the changes did the trick, but I was desperate and the timing worked out that two things got changed more or less at the same time. Next step is to scan things again myself to see if I can spot anything interesting. But for now, this thing sure is fun to drive. Good luck to you all 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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